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06 wagon - Rallyarmor mudflaps install writeup part 1

Tokudai 03-09-2006 08:22 PM

06 wagon - Rallyarmor mudflaps install writeup
Heya.. Just got these and I figured I'd document my install, since a couple of people have wondered

First off - these are NOT a bolt in fit for the front of the 06 wagon. The flap itself had to be modified because the mounting hole was ~ 1/2 inch off (low).. The SAAB mounting points noted on the RallyArmor FAQ are much closer to what is on the 06 wagon.

[IMG]http://www.rallyarmor.com/images/faqs/saab_example.jpg[/IMG]

This is not the "noted" issue with the rears and needing to extend that slot - In fact the rears went on without any issues.. lets do them first. I found it much easier to remove the wheels, but if you have skinny hands and a fancy shmancy offset screwdriver, then you might be able to leave them on

[IMG]http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6572/rrb49fw.jpg[/IMG]
This is the rear before the clips are added - simply remove that plug inside the wheelwell. It doesn't unscrew , but it pops the head of it out.. then you "pop" the entire grommet/screw ass'y out

[IMG]http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2728/rrafter5sx.jpg[/IMG]

After the clips are installed, everything lines up great. When installing the flap, get the inside/center one with the spacer started first, then with a little pressure on the flap the other two mounting points should line up perfectly. Insert the screws, snug it up, and make sure they are level, then crank 'em down. Reinstall the wheels and you are done with the rears...

Fronts - again I took the wheels off. Take the sideskirts off (there are 6 clips under each side plus one clip in the front wheel well - you can put a flathead screwdriver in and pop them off.. make sure you get all 6 - the one in the wheelwell is a phillips head, about 1-2 turns, and then pop the entire grommet/screw ass'y out)

Then simply grab the skirt, and pull up from the bottom, kind of almost "rolling" it out of the seating location, and the retainers that hold it up top will pop out - (kind of like a doorpanel). I was real nervous about this, but once you pop one out, the fear will leave you. Honestly, this side skirt is the easiest part I have ever had to take off of almost ANY car

[IMG]http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3041/ftb46kf.jpg[/IMG]
This is the front with the sideskirt removed. The 06 does not have the top most mounting spot for the flap at all - It can be added, but I installed mine with 3 of the front 4 bolts only

[IMG]http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5633/modified3qe.jpg[/IMG]

This is the modification I had to do to the top (ok "middle" ) mounting hole on the flap - (a lot like the SAAB picture)

There are 2 more "screw/grommet" dealies to pop out holding on the fender liner - a turn or two and pop them off like the others

You can lift the fender liner just enough to pop in the small round insert behind it.. then the two side clips go on, and the fender liner gets popped onto the clip assemblies. Fit the side skirt back on before drilling

[IMG]http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/182/drilled1rn.jpg[/IMG]

I installed the skirt with the center bolt and bottom bolt, then with a nail, poked through the mounting hole on the flap to put a little mark on the side skirt. I then took the skirt off again, and drilled a 7/16 hole right where that little scribing was. Voila! I can see the hole behind it!


Install the 3 screws snugly (Middle one with spacer first), then wiggle the flap around, make sure they are all straight, then tighten them down

Reinstall your wheels and off you go!

Took me a total of ~ 2 hours or so, but that was mainly jacking the car, removing the wheels, and the first measuring/measuring/drilling on the front...To install another set, I'd say 15 minutes + time to take the wheels off..

[IMG]http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4456/rrinst9fm.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8643/instft5ar.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/9600/inst22ym.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2483/inst36wj.jpg[/IMG]

Hope this helps some people out, and if you have any questions post em up!
MartinD 03-09-2006 09:30 PM

those look very nice on the wagon! nice clean work...

Martin:)
Chigae 07-14-2006 11:28 AM

This is great, exactly what I was looking for. I want to put some on my 2.5i wagon and its been difficult getting a straight answer. This has made my decision!

well done!
WRXSIG 07-14-2006 11:43 AM

Ewwww :(


i want to like them but i just cant.
cyn1c 11-06-2006 05:05 PM

Thanks for the writeup. I put mudflaps on my 06 wagon yesterday and it was really helpful to have your notes. One thing I noticed when drilling the hole in the sideskirts is that there was already a small divot in the plastic in the exact location where the hole should be drilled. It made it easy to locate the hole once I noticed it and verified that it was in the correct place.
Pallendo 11-06-2006 07:56 PM

Looks just like my car. Same year, nearly the same color, same wheels. Only difference is I got the "Aluminum" color logo on my Rally armor flaps. Same mods were needed/performed on mine. Sounds like it's time for Rally Armor to have a second design for the '06+ wagons. I would have paid an additional $10-$20 to have some that fit better.

Good job, good writeup. I did mine in mid June in 105degree heat. Didn't want to get the camera all sweaty.

-Peter
left footed whooten 03-09-2007 11:56 AM

Hooray for search success!
thanks for the write-up, I'm not afraid to go for it now.

<----exact same rig up as your, down to the black logo flaps.
Tahoe SC 04-20-2007 11:07 AM

woohoo...installed my limited flaps last night. rears were a cake...the front was easy too...mostly thanks to the OP for the write up. as cyn1c said...there's a little dimple on the sideskirt and the hole is directly behind it!

modification to fit is minimal. basically the right middle hole needs to move up about 1 cm. as for the very top hole...i can see that doing without it would not affect the flap whatsoever.
chimchimm5 09-29-2007 02:26 PM

Thanks for the writeup! I had thought my Rallyarmor flaps were incompatible till I saw this post.
chimchimm5 10-01-2007 01:29 AM

I got mine on my wagon... and the fit of the clips suck, but you can make it work. I drilled the hole in the side skirt (thanks to the indentation) and drilled a new hole in the mudflap just the OP did.

One thing of confusion: the front clips have two sides which can swallow a layer. After some experimenting (because the instruction sure aren't clear about this) I put the thinner "taco" around the wheel well liner, bent the liner to get the wider spaced "taco" around the chassis. This seemed to work best, although the clips didn't want to stay aligned.

I only attached the lower 2 of the 3 outer bolts and the single inner (with space) one. This seems to work, but barely. The inner (with spacer) is easy to tilt because of the insecure spacer; and so the whole flap is too easily wiggled. I can't tighten the screws more for fear of stripping the plastic clips (as warned in the instructions). So really, the outer 2 are doing most of the work... which means I'm looking to find a way to secure the missing top one somehow.

BTW, unlike the sedan install on HSPN, there's no way I could do this without removing the wheels.


Interesting note: I just rallyx'd with mine on (basic set) and they held up. What's interesting is that they got seriously dusty... but somehow the dust doesn't stick to the RallyArmor logo. So the black letters where hard to see until the flag got dirtied up... MAGIC!
Eppster 11-18-2007 11:53 AM

Can someone provide more detail (pix?) on the "identation" on the sideskirt and whether or not it provides the 4th or 3rd mounting point for the front flaps?

My flaps have been sitting in the garage for my 07 wagon and I've just been hesitant to give it a go.

Thanks,

Sean
left footed whooten 11-18-2007 07:59 PM

The indentation is on the front sideskirt in the wheelwell. It lines up with the top outside hole on the mudflap (after you drill a new hole in the flap). Take a peek, you'll see the little dimple above the existing body fastener. Its the top hole in the OP's 5th picture.
Rallyarmor 11-19-2007 12:44 AM

[quote=left footed whooten;20091881]The indentation is on the front sideskirt in the wheelwell. It lines up with the top outside hole on the mudflap (after you drill a new hole in the flap). Take a peek, you'll see the little dimple above the existing body fastener. Its the top hole in the OP's 5th picture.[/quote]
Indeed- [B]06-07[/B] Impreza [B]wagons[/B] do not have mounting points like the sedans due to the side skirt and fender design. In addition, they do not have a top mounting point as well. Looking closely at the vehicle the indentation can be seen that will allow the sedan version of our flaps mounting approximately here:

[IMG]http://www.rallyarmor.com/store/images/side_skirt_06_wrx_wagon.jpg[/IMG]


[IMG]http://www.rallyarmor.com/store/images/07_wagon2.jpg[/IMG]



[IMG]http://www.rallyarmor.com/store/images/07_wagon.jpg[/IMG]


Thanks again for your support

R/A
Eppster 11-19-2007 09:02 AM

Curious as to why you're not offering wagon specific patterns as it seems like a fairly straightforward thing to offer. This may sound harsh, but those drilled up flaps look like utter crap.

For $100 it is more than reasonable to ask that the proper hole patterns be made available for each body type. We're only talking about just the fronts anyway...

[QUOTE=Rallyarmor;20094699]Indeed- [B]06-07[/B] Impreza [B]wagons[/B] do not have mounting points like the sedans due to the side skirt and fender design. In addition, they do not have a top mounting point as well. Looking closely at the vehicle the indentation can be seen that will allow the sedan version of our flaps mounting approximately here:

Thanks again for your support

R/A[/QUOTE]
Rallyarmor 11-19-2007 09:25 AM

again to clarify -what you are viewing is a sedan product that has been modified for an 06-07 wagon. A product that is for an entirely different application modified for use.the 06-07 impreza wagons simply do not have an upper oem mounting point accessible (in the front) required for bolting on any piece without modifying the side skirt. hence we do not offer them as a 06/07 direct fit for the wagon. Since the rears bolt on as the previous wagons and sedans, many owners have chosen do to what has been detailed in this thread. [email�protected]/A
Eppster 11-19-2007 09:33 AM

Again, to clarify, why can't R/A come up with a wagon-specific solution that doesn't require drilling holes in pre-drilled sedan flaps or the car? I understand the upper mount issue and maybe the answer is you should drill the skirt to ensure solid installation but there are still other holes that don't line up.

The market clearly exists for them. Please make them. Pretty please.:D

[QUOTE=Rallyarmor;20096568]again to clarify -what you are viewing is a sedan product that has been modified for an 06-07 wagon. A product that is for an entirely different application modified for use.the 06-07 impreza wagons simply do not have an upper oem mounting point accessible (in the front) required for bolting on any piece without modifying the side skirt. hence we do not offer them as a 06/07 direct fit for the wagon. Since the rears bolt on as the previous wagons and sedans, many owners have chosen do to what has been detailed in this thread. [email�protected]/A[/QUOTE]
left footed whooten 11-19-2007 10:49 AM

Even if they did make flaps with the hole moved over and up to fit, you'd still be having to drill into the sideskirt to expose a mounting point. Its a subaru thing, not a rallyarmor thing. The only thing having them make a a flap with wagon holes would do is to drive up the price and it still won't get you around drilling through the sideskirt. Its really not a big deal, besides, as soon as the mudflaps are doing their job, they will be caked with scree and mud and dirt....

<---just installed his 5 days ago on an 06 wagon. Does not mind the slight modification one bit and does not think they look bad at all. You really don't notice it once the wheel is back on and they are full of dirt/mud/snow/bubblegum/roadkill
Rallyarmor 11-19-2007 11:53 AM

Thanks for the great feedback Left Foot, glad to see you have modified the product to suit your needs :)

Eppester, it really is the lack of a direct mounting point on the vehicle itself (as LF mentioned) that prohibits this. The only work around to this would be creating a shorter than the sedan version flap so one would not have to tap, but the upper portion of the flap plays a very important role in the protection of your vehicle as shown:

[IMG]http://www.rallyarmor.com/store/images/mudflaps_muddy.jpg[/IMG]
chimchimm5 11-19-2007 01:01 PM

How about marking an indentation as a guide for the people who are willing to drill into their fender on the 06/07 wagon? Take the guess work out of it for us and make a dimple... just like the one that is there on the fender from Subaru.

The dimple you would put on the flap wouldn't affect the sedan owners and would make it a lot less cludgy (takes out the guess work) for the 06/07 wagon owners.
michelle2781 10-25-2009 06:17 PM

Just installed mud flaps on my 06 wagon, and man did we have a hell of a time with those stupid plastic inserts that go in the front with the long spacer. They continuously turned in the hole as we tried to get the screw in. Finally got the driver's side all snugged, and put the rears on only to find that the passenger's side insert kept turning, and would not snug at all. So now I only have two screws holding the passenger side front on, and will have to write to Rally Armor to see if they can't send me some more of those inserts, or something else that works better.

Other than that, the mud flaps look nice!
SubieSG2057 10-25-2009 10:48 PM

nice work and very clean, but i have a specific question bout my rally armors. my friend helped me install them, but in the bak of the car we cudn't find a way to mount the 3rd holes (on the inside of the black plastic fender part). i will take pics tomorrow-thanks
Subarudave09 10-26-2009 04:05 PM

[quote=SubieSG2057;28606648]nice work and very clean, but i have a specific question bout my rally armors. my friend helped me install them, but in the bak of the car we cudn't find a way to mount the 3rd holes (on the inside of the black plastic fender part). i will take pics tomorrow-thanks[/quote]
u have a sedan its diffrent
pescatom 01-05-2010 03:43 PM

got mine for christmas...waiting for a mild thaw before i attempt the install! nice product RA!
d4nk 02-04-2010 12:58 AM

Just did mine a few hours ago. Not very difficult at all and great look on the wagon. Thanks for the writeup; I've had it bookmarked for two years and finally went through with the purchase and install.
wrxcellent2006 02-22-2010 11:07 AM

I just got mine in the mail today and will be installing them tomorrow on my 06 wagon. Thanks a TON to the OP for this excellent write-up. It's a lot more detailed than the vague description on the website (no offense, R/A).
brianroy86 02-23-2011 05:47 AM

Just installed mine a few days ago using this guide. I was worried about drilling through the side skirts, but it was incredibly easy.

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[IMG]http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/182671_764069062735_42403758_39861844_3878121_n.jpg[/IMG]

[EDIT:] I need to wash my car [/EDIT]
turf812 03-16-2011 06:11 PM

I understand drilling a new hole but my question is about the fender liner hole. I don't seem to see any place to clip on the supplied cup that the screw threads into. with out clipping it to anything the clip just turns as i try to tighten. let me know how you attached the flap to the front wheel liner. thanks
journey 03-19-2011 02:49 AM

Pix from my installation
Here are some pictures from my installation, including where I had to pull back the side skirts when doing the front flap install. I was not clear if I needed to go this far, but I was not sure how else to mount the front flaps.

[U]Front flap install[/U]
Heres the finished 'install' on the side opposite of the pix below. NOTE: I mounted the front flaps with only 3 screws--they have stayed in place since last May:
[IMG]http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/ilv2mtb/WRX_2006_Mud_Flaps/DSCN1609.jpg[/IMG]

Picture before any drilling / disassembly--you can see the dimple where the mounting hole will need to be drilled:
[IMG]http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/ilv2mtb/WRX_2006_Mud_Flaps/DSCN1594.jpg[/IMG]

Here is pix of removing the 'fender screws'--I found using the long needle nose pliers let me apply more leverage to the top of the plastic fender screw:
[IMG]http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/ilv2mtb/WRX_2006_Mud_Flaps/DSCN1599.jpg[/IMG]

I removed the two fender screws to expose the mounting holes to where flaps will be mounts. I drilled out 'dimple'--only the dimple had to be drilled out. Under the dimple, there was actually one of the finder screws holding the fender liner in place--the fender liner & the "inner fender" were already drilled. Thus, when drilling, do not got very deep.

Then I removed the sideskirt 'screws' from the underside of car, pulled back the sideskirt, and pulled away the fender liner; all this work so that I could expose the 'inner' part of the fender to which the mounting brackes were attached. Here is a pix with everything pulled apart--you can see both the lower & upper mounting holes:
[IMG]http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/ilv2mtb/WRX_2006_Mud_Flaps/DSCN1600.jpg[/IMG]

Now a pix with the "mounting brackets" attached (the upper bracket is in the center of the pix -- the lower bracket is attached but only the top of it can be seen in the lower part of the picture):
[IMG]http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/ilv2mtb/WRX_2006_Mud_Flaps/DSCN1602.jpg[/IMG]

After attaching the mounting brackets to the inner fender, I then re-assembled everything. Here is a picture of everything re-assembled, while I lined up the mud flap, which already has the additional hole drilled in it:
[IMG]http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/ilv2mtb/WRX_2006_Mud_Flaps/DSCN1603.jpg[/IMG]

Switching over to the other side of the car, you can see where I have installed the inner most screw and have lined up the flap over the other mounting holes:
[IMG]http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/ilv2mtb/WRX_2006_Mud_Flaps/DSCN1607.jpg[/IMG]

Finally, the flap with the 3 screws installed (i.e., same pix as above):
[IMG]http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/ilv2mtb/WRX_2006_Mud_Flaps/DSCN1609.jpg[/IMG]

I have pictures of the rear installation as well, but will save those for another post if needed (i.e., their installation is pretty similiar to the supplied directions).
journey 03-19-2011 03:13 AM

[quote=brianroy86;33380360]
[IMG]http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185834_764069227405_42403758_39861847_3345567_n.jpg[/IMG][/quote]Had to laugh--you have a black car with red flaps, and I have a red car with black flaps & red lettering :taco:
twistedmentality 08-21-2011 02:12 PM

how did you guys know where to drill the hole in the mudflap accurately ? did you make a templet of some sort ?

thanks !
journey 08-21-2011 04:06 PM

[quote=twistedmentality;34914785]how did you guys know where to drill the hole in the mudflap accurately ? did you make a templet of some sort ?[/quote]Making a template with paper would have been a good idea ;-)

I drilled a small hole first and then used a larger drill bit to 'round-out' the hole.

I estimated by eye the location, drilled the small hole, checked its location and then adjusted when I drilled out the larger hole (it has been over a year, but I am pretty sure that is what I did).
twistedmentality 08-21-2011 10:07 PM

well i ordered mine and i think im gonna use some clear lexan to make a template. i know its been said in a couple of post but i wish RR would just make a dimple on the flap for us 06 owners.
beedee 11-01-2011 07:44 PM

bumping this old, and well done write up. ive been thinking of ordering these for my 06 Ltd Wgn.

btw, anyone use the Flapatax? im not completely sold on the design, but i do see they have a "wagon" option when ordering.
Psycho78 11-09-2011 09:43 AM

Of course I have to have an 06 wagon and I am thinking about installing the incompatible RA mudflaps. Looking at the pics the open hole at the top kinda looks like ass.... Is it really that noticeable and does not having a screw in there effect the mudflaps usefulness? Does mud or snow get packed in behind the flap from not having that extra fastener? Any pics would that show how bad the hole is exposed with wheels on would be appreciated.

Thanks!
chimchimm5 11-09-2011 02:37 PM

[quote=Psycho78;35587374]Of course I have to have an 06 wagon and I am thinking about installing the incompatible RA mudflaps. Looking at the pics the open hole at the top kinda looks like ass.... Is it really that noticeable and does not having a screw in there effect the mudflaps usefulness? Does mud or snow get packed in behind the flap from not having that extra fastener? Any pics would that show how bad the hole is exposed with wheels on would be appreciated.

Thanks![/quote]

I have the "basic" rally armor flaps and I should have at least got the classic. However, now I'm going to make my own with thicker stuff.

Since the outer middle hole is not aligned, I had to drill a new hole (as Rally Armor tells you to for wagons). It was easy and not a problem. That a total of 3 screws. I rallyx'd on them several times now and yes, because the upper bolt is missing on the wagon, you do get stuff caught in the upper flap. However, it's doesn't accumulate that fast and it more dependent upon how messy the terrain you're running in. It still works much better than no flap at all.

In the pic below, some mud got caught on the top of the flap. I didn't clean it out until the end of the day and the flap held up. I don't think there was tire contact.

[IMG]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3624/3400285538_f3b5f0a98e_z.jpg[/IMG]

After a violent wheel well liner eating on a recent rallyx, I lost the inner mount and had to run the flaps with just the 2 outer bolts. It still held, but those rallyx were dry silty, dirt.
beedee 11-10-2011 02:41 PM

getting closer to buying a set. i might go flapatax, i dont like how much that top area is prone to extra wind slap and debris with the rally armor lack of fitment up there.

i loved the ra's on my sedan, but seems like they should step up and offer a solution for the wagon, and not leave it in the hands of the consumer.
twc 11-18-2011 02:43 PM

My Rally Armor flaps just came in and I will be tackling this install today if the weather holds up. I'll try to take some pics and throw them on this page.
beedee 11-18-2011 03:02 PM

^ please do, im actually back on the "i want RA" team. im just curious to see if there is another way of going about it to avoid this configuration as seen in this pic...

[img]http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/ilv2mtb/WRX_2006_Mud_Flaps/DSCN1609.jpg[/img]
chimchimm5 11-18-2011 05:13 PM

[quote=beedee;35666955]^ please do, im actually back on the "i want RA" team. im just curious to see if there is another way of going about it to avoid this configuration as seen in this pic...
[/quote]

You can always use zip ties to secure it better.

If you ever rally/rallyx zip ties are your friend. Heck, rally people probably use zip ties instead of viagra.
PlanB 11-19-2011 01:18 AM

[quote=beedee;35666955]^ please do, im actually back on the "i want RA" team. im just curious to see if there is another way of going about it to avoid this configuration as seen in this pic...

[IMG]http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/ilv2mtb/WRX_2006_Mud_Flaps/DSCN1609.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Completely agree. I'm glad it worked for this poster and that his flaps are holding, but I wouldn't do this mount on my own vehicle, I just woudn't sorry.
gurusan 12-23-2012 09:13 PM

Thanks for the write-up. Helped muchly. Encountered no problems except when I took my sideskirts off and tried to fit the clips....there was like 10lb of caked up nasty dirt/mud/stuff stuck inside the section behind the fender lining....I guess the previous owner lived in the mud :/

Here's a crappy pic of them installed, will try to get a better one when the sun shines

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/16b29.jpg[/IMG]
Urabaas23 11-18-2013 02:01 PM

Saab 9-2x Aero RA Mudflaps
I bought the 2005 WRX UR mudflaps for my Saab 9-2x Aero and we did have to drill holes. [IMG]<a href="http://s1029.photobucket.com/user/wcrhoads/media/IMG_20131108_170940_zps93edc18c.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y359/wcrhoads/IMG_20131108_170940_zps93edc18c.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo IMG_20131108_170940_zps93edc18c.jpg"/></a>[/IMG]
aerosaaber 11-18-2013 11:55 PM

[quote=Urabaas23;40973044]I bought the 2005 WRX UR mudflaps for my Saab 9-2x Aero and we did have to drill holes. [IMG]http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y359/wcrhoads/IMG_20131108_170940_zps93edc18c.jpg[/IMG][/quote]there u go
JTSauber 07-02-2015 07:29 PM

I couldn't see the picture's, but the text definitely cleared up a lot about how to preform the installation, Thank you Tokudai. I hope to post pictures of my success.
xvjnhj 07-03-2015 12:21 AM

This is great, exactly what I was looking for. I want to put some on my 2.5i wagon and its been difficult getting a straight answer. This has made my decision! [img]http://google.com/green/images/49.gif[/img][img]http://google.com/green/images/63.gif[/img]
LongshotPhil 12-09-2015 04:37 PM

Can't see the pics :(
SamuelMay 07-13-2016 05:40 PM

Sorry to dig up and old thread. I just purchased an 07 WRX Wagon and my Rally Armor flaps are coming this week.

Does anyone have the original photos from this thread? I would love to see the drill point in the side skirt. I know the little dimple is visible above one of the mounting points, is this exactly where to drill?

Also does anyone know what size of hole to drill? What type of bit to use?

Thanks

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