| WRXSIG | 08-13-2005 01:13 AM |
16.386 @ 83.61mph........
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I ran a 16.386 at 81mph tonight at tulsa raceway...besides being pissed id like to identify what you guys think is wrong.
unlike alabama where im from i can only get 91 octane, not 93 like normally. and the car really feels slow. i was slipping the clutch at like 3300rpms-3700. and the car felt like it was just taking forever to get to 6ks. any ideas....
can octane really do that?
what do you launch at? shift at?
:( :( :(
btw the car is more or less stock. flame suit on... :(
unlike alabama where im from i can only get 91 octane, not 93 like normally. and the car really feels slow. i was slipping the clutch at like 3300rpms-3700. and the car felt like it was just taking forever to get to 6ks. any ideas....
can octane really do that?
what do you launch at? shift at?
:( :( :(
btw the car is more or less stock. flame suit on... :(
| itjustWoRX | 08-13-2005 01:16 AM |
no flamming from me...you've got guts to post.
i've never taken my car to the track, and i'm at stage 2. i wouldn't know how to drive it...not to mention i'd be nervous.
my guess is you just need more practice? or something might have been very wrong with your car.
----TOM (props!)
i've never taken my car to the track, and i'm at stage 2. i wouldn't know how to drive it...not to mention i'd be nervous.
my guess is you just need more practice? or something might have been very wrong with your car.
----TOM (props!)
| fasterthanrayswrx | 08-13-2005 01:19 AM |
do you have the entire slip?
| kingtut12 | 08-13-2005 01:21 AM |
Your launch RPM is low. Try launching at higher Rpm. It takes time, but theres no reason to be in the 16's. You'll do better.
| ChrisDP | 08-13-2005 01:22 AM |
Regardless of where you launch and shift at, if you are shifting even remotely decently, 81mph trap speed is just NOT normal for a stock WRX. Even with a poor launch, your MPH won't suffer THAT badly.
| KitchenerWRX | 08-13-2005 01:23 AM |
launch the car by slipping the clutch at around 4500-5000 rpm, that will get you better 60' and obviously a faster 1/4 and better ET. Blip the throttle around that rpm to keep the turbo all spooled up then slip the clutch at the last yellow light, shift very quick at around 6500-6800 rpm in each gear
| WRXSIG | 08-13-2005 01:31 AM |
Dial....
R/T .947
60' 2.386
330 6.938
1/8th 10.604
mph 66.64
1000 13.744
1/4 16.386\
MPh 83.61
R/T .947
60' 2.386
330 6.938
1/8th 10.604
mph 66.64
1000 13.744
1/4 16.386\
MPh 83.61
| thechickencow | 08-13-2005 02:02 AM |
Your r/t sucks, your 60' sucks, your 1/8 sucks, your 1/4 sucks.
Drive faster.
Drive faster.
| STi-MAN | 08-13-2005 02:23 AM |
rt has no effect on your time
| bren wrx | 08-13-2005 02:32 AM |
stock 05 new with 20 miles should go 14.50 with a crap 60 ft.
| boosted20 | 08-13-2005 02:44 AM |
check all your piping on the IC. These traps show something is wrong with your car. Unless you are just really really bad at driving. You should know if you are nailing every gear or not. If you feel that you are driving really well then I would say something is wrong with the car. Just giving a time slip doesnt give us enough info. octane is not the cause.
| WRXSIG | 08-13-2005 02:49 AM |
[QUOTE=boosted20]check all your piping on the IC. These traps show something is wrong with your car. Unless you are just really really bad at driving. You should know if you are nailing every gear or not. If you feel that you are driving really well then I would say something is wrong with the car. Just giving a time slip doesnt give us enough info. octane is not the cause.[/QUOTE]
would a leak in the piping to the stock bov could cause that? installed a boost gauge but everything seemed cool and its showing like 13.5 psi of boostish...
would a leak in the piping to the stock bov could cause that? installed a boost gauge but everything seemed cool and its showing like 13.5 psi of boostish...
| WRXSIG | 08-13-2005 02:51 AM |
ill try and get a video of it next time i guess....of the shifting and rpms and maybe that would help.
| imp2.5 | 08-13-2005 03:02 AM |
[QUOTE=STi-MAN]rt has no effect on your time[/QUOTE]
:huh:
Brian the Dog: Do you listen to yourself talk?
Peter: I drift in and out
:huh:
Brian the Dog: Do you listen to yourself talk?
Peter: I drift in and out
| Patrick Olsen | 08-13-2005 03:11 AM |
[QUOTE=imp2.5]:huh:
Brian the Dog: Do you listen to yourself talk?
Peter: I drift in and out[/QUOTE]
Are you implying that STi-MAN is wrong? If so, ummm, it's actually you that's wrong. I could sit at the green for 5sec (and hence have a 5sec R/T) and my ET will still be exactly the same as if I nailed a perfect 0.500sec R/T.
As for the actual question at hand, yes, something is definitely wrong with the car unless you're a really, really, really horrible driver, WRXSIG. You mentioned your launch technique, how about your shift technique? What RPM were you shifting at, and are your shifts glacially slow or can you snap them off really quickly?
Couldn't hurt to reset the ECU, maybe there's a code locked in that's pulling a lot of timing? Just a thought. The lower octane will certainly cost some performance, but it wouldn't cause you to lose about 100+hp.
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan
Brian the Dog: Do you listen to yourself talk?
Peter: I drift in and out[/QUOTE]
Are you implying that STi-MAN is wrong? If so, ummm, it's actually you that's wrong. I could sit at the green for 5sec (and hence have a 5sec R/T) and my ET will still be exactly the same as if I nailed a perfect 0.500sec R/T.
As for the actual question at hand, yes, something is definitely wrong with the car unless you're a really, really, really horrible driver, WRXSIG. You mentioned your launch technique, how about your shift technique? What RPM were you shifting at, and are your shifts glacially slow or can you snap them off really quickly?
Couldn't hurt to reset the ECU, maybe there's a code locked in that's pulling a lot of timing? Just a thought. The lower octane will certainly cost some performance, but it wouldn't cause you to lose about 100+hp.
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan
| WRXSIG | 08-13-2005 03:55 AM |
[QUOTE=Patrick Olsen]Are you implying that STi-MAN is wrong? If so, ummm, it's actually you that's wrong. I could sit at the green for 5sec (and hence have a 5sec R/T) and my ET will still be exactly the same as if I nailed a perfect 0.500sec R/T.
As for the actual question at hand, yes, something is definitely wrong with the car unless you're a really, really, really horrible driver, WRXSIG. You mentioned your launch technique, how about your shift technique? What RPM were you shifting at, and are your shifts glacially slow or can you snap them off really quickly?
Couldn't hurt to reset the ECU, maybe there's a code locked in that's pulling a lot of timing? Just a thought. The lower octane will certainly cost some performance, but it wouldn't cause you to lose about 100+hp.
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan[/QUOTE]
i always thought that shifting real hard ( like slamming the shifter into gear wasnt good)....and also read around here that shifting a stock wrx above 6000k rpms was pointless was because of where the powerband was.... :confused:
As for the actual question at hand, yes, something is definitely wrong with the car unless you're a really, really, really horrible driver, WRXSIG. You mentioned your launch technique, how about your shift technique? What RPM were you shifting at, and are your shifts glacially slow or can you snap them off really quickly?
Couldn't hurt to reset the ECU, maybe there's a code locked in that's pulling a lot of timing? Just a thought. The lower octane will certainly cost some performance, but it wouldn't cause you to lose about 100+hp.
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan[/QUOTE]
i always thought that shifting real hard ( like slamming the shifter into gear wasnt good)....and also read around here that shifting a stock wrx above 6000k rpms was pointless was because of where the powerband was.... :confused:
| Audi-TT | 08-13-2005 04:04 AM |
you're babying your car during a drag, that's why you're getting bad times. try flooring the car next time, and shifting like you mean it
| Patrick Olsen | 08-13-2005 07:03 AM |
Well, I guess that means you fall in the really, really, really horrible driver category. :huh:
[QUOTE=WRXSIG]i always thought that shifting real hard ( like slamming the shifter into gear wasnt good)....[/quote]
There's a difference between shifting quickly and "slamming the shifter into gear". I can snap off very quick shifts with just the flick of the wrist, not nearly enough force to be slamming the gears.
[quote]and also read around here that shifting a stock wrx above 6000k rpms was pointless was because of where the powerband was.... :confused:[/QUOTE]
Whoever told you that ... don't ever ever ever talk to them about car stuff [i]ever again![/i] Have you actually driven your car? What feels faster to you - short shifting at 6000rpm, or shifting up around 6800rpm?
Pat
[QUOTE=WRXSIG]i always thought that shifting real hard ( like slamming the shifter into gear wasnt good)....[/quote]
There's a difference between shifting quickly and "slamming the shifter into gear". I can snap off very quick shifts with just the flick of the wrist, not nearly enough force to be slamming the gears.
[quote]and also read around here that shifting a stock wrx above 6000k rpms was pointless was because of where the powerband was.... :confused:[/QUOTE]
Whoever told you that ... don't ever ever ever talk to them about car stuff [i]ever again![/i] Have you actually driven your car? What feels faster to you - short shifting at 6000rpm, or shifting up around 6800rpm?
Pat
| xcntrk75 | 08-13-2005 07:43 AM |
Yeah your times all the way around are bad. I have to agree that even with a bad launch that car should be pulling at least low-15�s�
The 60-ft is very bad. Almost no launch there at all. A decent 60-ft for a wrx is around 1.7 and a really good wrx/sti around 1.5.. Try launching at a higher RPM. You want to find an rpm which works with your setup, in-between bogging and excessive tire-spin. As an example, I launch at 5,500k rpm with launch control. Anywhere between 4-6k is the window.
Also, relax at the starting gate. Nerves pull at least 2 10ths off your time� ;)
Good luck and keep at it� :D
The 60-ft is very bad. Almost no launch there at all. A decent 60-ft for a wrx is around 1.7 and a really good wrx/sti around 1.5.. Try launching at a higher RPM. You want to find an rpm which works with your setup, in-between bogging and excessive tire-spin. As an example, I launch at 5,500k rpm with launch control. Anywhere between 4-6k is the window.
Also, relax at the starting gate. Nerves pull at least 2 10ths off your time� ;)
Good luck and keep at it� :D
| kingtut12 | 08-13-2005 07:56 AM |
Yeah, either there is a problem with your car, or you need to trade it in for an automatic. ;)
Don't be afraid to rifle through the gears, just be prepared to buy a new clutch if your gonna continue going to the track. And maybe a stronger gearset.
Don't be afraid to rifle through the gears, just be prepared to buy a new clutch if your gonna continue going to the track. And maybe a stronger gearset.
| Davenow | 08-13-2005 08:11 AM |
you launched at WAYYY to low rpm, launch at 5500, and dont slip the slutch so much.
The you shifted too early
And you shifted to slowly.
You pretty much either have to do EVERYTHING wrong, and/or have a broken car to run that slow. Not flaming ya, just saying :) Dont sweat it, you obviously dont have mush drag experience, I wouldnt expect you to pull 14's your first run.
The you shifted too early
And you shifted to slowly.
You pretty much either have to do EVERYTHING wrong, and/or have a broken car to run that slow. Not flaming ya, just saying :) Dont sweat it, you obviously dont have mush drag experience, I wouldnt expect you to pull 14's your first run.
| dropmech | 08-13-2005 08:35 AM |
Practice makes perfect bud, just slip a little higher and you'll get it over time. I was putting down 16's my first few runs also. Then you just get comfortable with not only slipping at around 5k, but starting to do it at the last yellow light rather than wait for the green.
| imp2.5 | 08-13-2005 10:42 AM |
[QUOTE=imp2.5]:huh:
Brian the Dog: Do you listen to yourself talk?
Peter: I drift in and out[/QUOTE]
By the way, this wasn't me, Lexington (one of my friends) was logged onto my name. Sorry if it caused any problems.
Brian the Dog: Do you listen to yourself talk?
Peter: I drift in and out[/QUOTE]
By the way, this wasn't me, Lexington (one of my friends) was logged onto my name. Sorry if it caused any problems.
| orthikon | 08-13-2005 06:28 PM |
[QUOTE=dropmech]Practice makes perfect bud, just slip a little higher and you'll get it over time. I was putting down 16's my first few runs also. Then you just get comfortable with not only slipping at around 5k, [B]but starting to do it at the last yellow light rather than wait for the green[/B].[/QUOTE]
but that only affects R/T right?
but that only affects R/T right?
| Carlos_WRX | 08-13-2005 06:43 PM |
^^^^ yeap once u get your time down then start practicing your R/T for bragging rights
| solo-x | 08-13-2005 09:53 PM |
being the resident honduh owner on this board, can i poke a [i]little[/i] fun here? :D
nate
nate
| Patrick L | 08-14-2005 10:16 AM |
I did a 15.1 at the same track Sig. Sound like you need some tips on how to drive it.
| Slack | 08-14-2005 06:01 PM |
[QUOTE=thechickencow]Your r/t sucks, your 60' sucks, your 1/8 sucks, your 1/4 sucks.
Drive faster.[/QUOTE]
I guess mentioning that I ran a 16.34 (95deg weather) in my 2.2L Impreza a while back should reinforce this post.
Mick
Drive faster.[/QUOTE]
I guess mentioning that I ran a 16.34 (95deg weather) in my 2.2L Impreza a while back should reinforce this post.
Mick
| Homemade WRX | 08-14-2005 06:59 PM |
you need to launch better and shift faster....oh and push the pedal to the floor :p
really though I think you are shifting slowly and bogging on the launch
really though I think you are shifting slowly and bogging on the launch
| Shavenyak | 08-14-2005 07:55 PM |
Did the dealer slip you a 2.5 RS rebadged as a WRX? :confused:
--Roman
--Roman
| jmc9809 | 08-14-2005 08:11 PM |
[QUOTE=SCOOBY-RU]Did the dealer slip you a 2.5 RS rebadged as a WRX? :confused:
--Roman[/QUOTE]
Not if he's getting 13.5 lbs of boost...
--Roman[/QUOTE]
Not if he's getting 13.5 lbs of boost...
| fastseven | 08-14-2005 09:05 PM |
YOU SUCK!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!! Should have rented a neon from Enterprise!!! Hahahahahahahaha!!!
| WRXSIG | 08-14-2005 10:37 PM |
[QUOTE=fastseven]YOU SUCK!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!! Should have rented a neon from Enterprise!!! Hahahahahahahaha!!![/QUOTE]
spoken like a true internet tough guy.... :rolleyes:
spoken like a true internet tough guy.... :rolleyes:
| KevinHeist | 08-14-2005 11:02 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXSIG]besides being pissed id like to identify what you guys think is wrong. [/QUOTE]
i think what is wrong is that you were driving an automatic outback 2.5i :devil:
i think what is wrong is that you were driving an automatic outback 2.5i :devil:
| Shavenyak | 08-15-2005 12:19 AM |
[QUOTE=jmc9809]Not if he's getting 13.5 lbs of boost...[/QUOTE]
I know, I was just being silly. Times seemed about right though.
--Roman
I know, I was just being silly. Times seemed about right though.
--Roman
| 00Maddog | 08-15-2005 12:31 AM |
when I first got my wrx a friend also told me revving above 6k was pointless. he drove a jeep 4.0. go figure...
| AdamWinsAgain | 08-15-2005 12:31 AM |
Even with a 2.3 60 ft, if you are flooring hte car your trap should be higher and your ET should be lower. I think your car is not working correctly. Check your IC piping. You don't have any mods?
| Shavenyak | 08-15-2005 01:50 AM |
[QUOTE=00Maddog]when I first got my wrx a friend also told me revving above 6k was pointless. he drove a jeep 4.0. go figure...[/QUOTE]
Driving a Jeep 4.0: going over 4K is pointless. 85% of peak torque is made at idle.
--Roman
Driving a Jeep 4.0: going over 4K is pointless. 85% of peak torque is made at idle.
--Roman
| heavyDOODIE | 08-15-2005 02:31 AM |
no joke. you gots tha balls to post and take a flamin'. :D
yeah, i think you should give the car more revs(around 4000 or so) cuz you are probably bogging bad, judging by your 60ft. other than that, the other pointers i've got is not to shift at redline. i've shifted at 6000 with no real change in my times. oh yeah, work on that reaction time.
it's cool, you can do better- my best time stock was 14.8 corrected.
yeah, i think you should give the car more revs(around 4000 or so) cuz you are probably bogging bad, judging by your 60ft. other than that, the other pointers i've got is not to shift at redline. i've shifted at 6000 with no real change in my times. oh yeah, work on that reaction time.
it's cool, you can do better- my best time stock was 14.8 corrected.
| spankaveli | 08-15-2005 02:43 AM |
:lol: @ the guy that said 1.7 60' are "decent" in wrx...
you should launch around 5,500, drop the clutch but don't sidestep, just let off as fast as you can. also, shift around 6,500-6,800
also, does your car have any mods?
you should launch around 5,500, drop the clutch but don't sidestep, just let off as fast as you can. also, shift around 6,500-6,800
also, does your car have any mods?
| solo-x | 08-15-2005 07:57 AM |
[QUOTE=Slack]I guess mentioning that I ran a 16.34 (95deg weather) in my 2.2L Impreza a while back should reinforce this post.
Mick[/QUOTE]
no, the fact i ran a stock civic at 16.0 reinforces this post. :D
nate
Mick[/QUOTE]
no, the fact i ran a stock civic at 16.0 reinforces this post. :D
nate
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