| Oldalfaguy | 10-12-2004 01:55 AM |
2005 SOLO2 season - STI's don't stand a chance in AS...
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From the SCCA forum:
"SOLO II STOCK CATEGORY
� Per the SAC, the following class change proposals (effective 1/1/2005) have been recommended in the form below to the BOD:
ITEM 1: Move from BS to AS: Porsche Boxster non-S, Honda S2000 (�00-�03), BMW Z4 (all)"
Down here in Central Fla, BS S2000's are running btw 1.5 to 3 secs faster than the fastest AS STI. Pretty discouraging considering we were only competitive for one season. Whats the point in showing up if you don't even have a fighting chance to be competitive?
Discuss...
"SOLO II STOCK CATEGORY
� Per the SAC, the following class change proposals (effective 1/1/2005) have been recommended in the form below to the BOD:
ITEM 1: Move from BS to AS: Porsche Boxster non-S, Honda S2000 (�00-�03), BMW Z4 (all)"
Down here in Central Fla, BS S2000's are running btw 1.5 to 3 secs faster than the fastest AS STI. Pretty discouraging considering we were only competitive for one season. Whats the point in showing up if you don't even have a fighting chance to be competitive?
Discuss...
| afpdl | 10-12-2004 02:15 AM |
When were they competitive again? I mean besides in a prosolo the STi has never had a shot in AS.
| KoneKiller | 10-12-2004 02:24 AM |
Well... let's see
In Houston:
Roger Johnson S2000 48.5
Curtis Muncy S2000 49.1
Me 04 STi 49.3 and I BARELY coned on a 48.5
I'm not really very good, but I think I can be competitive in AS with the S2000s. It's that David Hedrick in the Boxster, although I beat his raw time last week. Must have been the Dunlosts he was running.
Maybe Houston's AS and BS classes are lame. <shrug>
In Houston:
Roger Johnson S2000 48.5
Curtis Muncy S2000 49.1
Me 04 STi 49.3 and I BARELY coned on a 48.5
I'm not really very good, but I think I can be competitive in AS with the S2000s. It's that David Hedrick in the Boxster, although I beat his raw time last week. Must have been the Dunlosts he was running.
Maybe Houston's AS and BS classes are lame. <shrug>
| TheWRX | 10-12-2004 08:21 AM |
[QUOTE=Oldalfaguy]Down here in Central Fla, BS S2000's are running btw 1.5 to 3 secs faster than the fastest AS STI. Pretty discouraging considering we were only competitive for one season.[/QUOTE]
I don't quite get your point. It's not like the STi was alone in AS so far. They were already competing against the C4 Vette, Boxster S, '04 S2000, etc. So unless you think that the pre-04 S2000 is significantly faster than those (which it isn't), not much changed for the STi in AS. There might be more competion, but not faster one.
I have seen some STi's do quite well against good drivers in Vettes. I don't think the STi is the best car for the class, but it might not be all that far off. The STi is still a relatively new car, there might still be room for improvement in car setup.
I don't quite get your point. It's not like the STi was alone in AS so far. They were already competing against the C4 Vette, Boxster S, '04 S2000, etc. So unless you think that the pre-04 S2000 is significantly faster than those (which it isn't), not much changed for the STi in AS. There might be more competion, but not faster one.
I have seen some STi's do quite well against good drivers in Vettes. I don't think the STi is the best car for the class, but it might not be all that far off. The STi is still a relatively new car, there might still be room for improvement in car setup.
| del105 | 10-12-2004 08:58 AM |
I know its not on the ground yet but the 05 boxster S will win AS in 05.
| 10th Warrior | 10-12-2004 10:56 AM |
[quote]I know its not on the ground yet but the 05 boxster S will win AS in 05.[/quote]
if it goes in AS ;)
and the STi couldn't beat the C4s and 993s anyway ;)
if it goes in AS ;)
and the STi couldn't beat the C4s and 993s anyway ;)
| KC | 10-12-2004 10:57 AM |
Yeah, it could be in SS once it comes out and the SAC/SEB finds out it's got a bit more capability than the old Ss.
| del105 | 10-12-2004 10:58 AM |
[QUOTE=10th Warrior]if it goes in AS ;)
and the STi couldn't beat the C4s and 993s anyway ;)[/QUOTE]
If it ends up in AS I want the Elise in AS too!!! :D
and the STi couldn't beat the C4s and 993s anyway ;)[/QUOTE]
If it ends up in AS I want the Elise in AS too!!! :D
| Jaxx | 10-12-2004 12:12 PM |
how do you "BARELY cone"
| forced4 | 10-12-2004 12:17 PM |
It's like a "near miss" ;)
| KoneKiller | 10-12-2004 12:20 PM |
[QUOTE=Jaxx]how do you "BARELY cone"[/QUOTE]
Jaxx... as you know, the ideal line thru a slalom or a chicago box is actually to HIT each cone, but hit none of them hard enough to push it from the painted square in which it sits or knock it over. This way you get all the speed from being close but no penalties.
I did this, but hit the first cone in the chicago box with my rear tire just hard enough to push it from the square, still standing however. Two seconds is still 2 seconds, but since it was only barely out of the box and still standing... I claim 'barely' :lol:
Jaxx... as you know, the ideal line thru a slalom or a chicago box is actually to HIT each cone, but hit none of them hard enough to push it from the painted square in which it sits or knock it over. This way you get all the speed from being close but no penalties.
I did this, but hit the first cone in the chicago box with my rear tire just hard enough to push it from the square, still standing however. Two seconds is still 2 seconds, but since it was only barely out of the box and still standing... I claim 'barely' :lol:
| Oldalfaguy | 10-12-2004 01:17 PM |
[QUOTE=TheWRX]I don't quite get your point. It's not like the STi was alone in AS so far. They were already competing against the C4 Vette, Boxster S, '04 S2000, etc. So unless you think that the pre-04 S2000 is significantly faster than those (which it isn't), not much changed for the STi in AS. There might be more competion, but not faster one.
I have seen some STi's do quite well against good drivers in Vettes. I don't think the STi is the best car for the class, but it might not be all that far off. The STi is still a relatively new car, there might still be room for improvement in car setup.[/QUOTE]
I agree that there won't be faster competition just more of it. But down here all the S2000's and Boxsters have been in BS not AS (pre 2004 cars) and there haven't been any of them in AS, yet. While I'm a severely average driver that's been doing well against other moderate drivers in AS the move is going to shuffle alot of btter drivers in faster (than STI) cars to AS. I assumed this was the case in other regions.
I have seen some STi's do quite well against good drivers in Vettes. I don't think the STi is the best car for the class, but it might not be all that far off. The STi is still a relatively new car, there might still be room for improvement in car setup.[/QUOTE]
I agree that there won't be faster competition just more of it. But down here all the S2000's and Boxsters have been in BS not AS (pre 2004 cars) and there haven't been any of them in AS, yet. While I'm a severely average driver that's been doing well against other moderate drivers in AS the move is going to shuffle alot of btter drivers in faster (than STI) cars to AS. I assumed this was the case in other regions.
| ratt_finkel | 10-12-2004 01:27 PM |
Why did they move the S2K? That's really odd to me. Was/is it just dominating BS?
| Oldalfaguy | 10-12-2004 01:30 PM |
Dunno...
| KC | 10-12-2004 01:40 PM |
It's shown that on a national level, the S2K is competiive (and driven faster than) current AS cars. Example: the two fastest S2Ks at nationals were 97.8 and 97.9 seconds compared to the fastest AS time of 98.4.. and they drove in almost the same conditions (dry and warm).
--kC
--kC
| ConeMasher | 10-12-2004 01:41 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]Why did they move the S2K? That's really odd to me. Was/is it just dominating BS?[/QUOTE]
Yes, BS was Spec-2k. Top 16 spots at Nationals were S2000s, and they actually beat AS by by .608 over 2 days of competition. A number of nationally competitive drivers purchased 350Zs when they came out, and later dumped 'em when it became clear they simply weren't competitive. This is also the reason that out of 49 drivers at nats, 41 of them were in S2Ks.
-- Gary
Yes, BS was Spec-2k. Top 16 spots at Nationals were S2000s, and they actually beat AS by by .608 over 2 days of competition. A number of nationally competitive drivers purchased 350Zs when they came out, and later dumped 'em when it became clear they simply weren't competitive. This is also the reason that out of 49 drivers at nats, 41 of them were in S2Ks.
-- Gary
| TheWRX | 10-12-2004 05:04 PM |
[QUOTE=Jaxx]how do you "BARELY cone"[/QUOTE]
It's similar to being half pregnant. :lol:
It's similar to being half pregnant. :lol:
| zzyzx | 10-12-2004 05:23 PM |
It makes you wonder what will be left in BS. I mean...?
BS is now up for grabs. Any predictions on dominate cars?
Not to mention AS will either double in size, or people who are pissed as the ruling will flee from the class.
BS is now up for grabs. Any predictions on dominate cars?
Not to mention AS will either double in size, or people who are pissed as the ruling will flee from the class.
| KC | 10-12-2004 05:42 PM |
Dominant cars... let's see...
E36M3, 350Z, 968, Turbo MR2, maybe even an RX-8 or two in there for good measure. :)
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E36M3, 350Z, 968, Turbo MR2, maybe even an RX-8 or two in there for good measure. :)
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| altiain | 10-12-2004 11:27 PM |
The E36 M3 was an also ran in B Stock (actually A Stock at the time) before the S2000 showed up. Too heavy, and too little camber in stock form.
My money would be on the RX-8 (especially after watching Tim Pryor show that it could hang with the S2000s at the Houston Tour) or the 968. The Mazdaspeed Miata won't be a competitor on typical Nationals-style courses due to its wonky gearing (47mph redline in 2nd is a [i]great[/i] way to hamstring an otherwise capable car :rolleyes: ), but it could still be a threat in ProSolos.
Then there is also the 350Z (with rumored power upgrade for '05, but no more camber), the 944S2 (which has proved capable of running with the 968 in the past), the MR-2 Turbo (fun car if you can find an unmolested one) and my favorite dark horse - the '96-'00 (240hp) M Coupe. ;)
Whatever happens, it's going to be an interesting class to watch next year!
Iain
My money would be on the RX-8 (especially after watching Tim Pryor show that it could hang with the S2000s at the Houston Tour) or the 968. The Mazdaspeed Miata won't be a competitor on typical Nationals-style courses due to its wonky gearing (47mph redline in 2nd is a [i]great[/i] way to hamstring an otherwise capable car :rolleyes: ), but it could still be a threat in ProSolos.
Then there is also the 350Z (with rumored power upgrade for '05, but no more camber), the 944S2 (which has proved capable of running with the 968 in the past), the MR-2 Turbo (fun car if you can find an unmolested one) and my favorite dark horse - the '96-'00 (240hp) M Coupe. ;)
Whatever happens, it's going to be an interesting class to watch next year!
Iain
| adhowe70 | 10-13-2004 12:07 AM |
Damnit KC... you had to wait until I was gone from the class! :p
I'm bummed that I don't get to run a spec class again, but I think I'll fare well in A Stock.
I think B Stock is going to be an awesome class next year. I kinda wish I could swing a B Stock car to play in the "all new class." Anyone want to buy a completely prepped S2000 to play in the new A Stock?
Andy H. <---- 5th at Nationals in the old B Stock
I'm bummed that I don't get to run a spec class again, but I think I'll fare well in A Stock.
I think B Stock is going to be an awesome class next year. I kinda wish I could swing a B Stock car to play in the "all new class." Anyone want to buy a completely prepped S2000 to play in the new A Stock?
Andy H. <---- 5th at Nationals in the old B Stock
| z3coupe | 10-13-2004 05:13 AM |
[QUOTE]and my favorite dark horse - the '96-'00 (240hp) M Coupe. ;)
Whatever happens, it's going to be an interesting class to watch next year!
Iain[/QUOTE] Karly Assiley and Mike Simanyi both co-drove an M Coupe at the Nationals last year, and Mike still has his. According to them, it has no chance in hell. Its a great car (I used to have a Z3 Coupe), and a killer track car, but its suspension is too dated (rear is from the old E30) to do well enough.
As for the STi in AS? Come on guys, STU is the playground we should be in. Lets get enough cars to get it classed nationaly!
Whatever happens, it's going to be an interesting class to watch next year!
Iain[/QUOTE] Karly Assiley and Mike Simanyi both co-drove an M Coupe at the Nationals last year, and Mike still has his. According to them, it has no chance in hell. Its a great car (I used to have a Z3 Coupe), and a killer track car, but its suspension is too dated (rear is from the old E30) to do well enough.
As for the STi in AS? Come on guys, STU is the playground we should be in. Lets get enough cars to get it classed nationaly!
| KC | 10-13-2004 07:42 AM |
[QUOTE=adhowe70]Damnit KC... you had to wait until I was gone from the class! :p[/QUOTE]
There were many things I was considering for next year.... it's just the RX-8 brings a smile to my face after running my friends cars or instructing in it.
Don't worry, I won't go fast this year.. it's my 1st time auto-xing a RWD car. :)
--kC
There were many things I was considering for next year.... it's just the RX-8 brings a smile to my face after running my friends cars or instructing in it.
Don't worry, I won't go fast this year.. it's my 1st time auto-xing a RWD car. :)
--kC
| dwx | 10-13-2004 10:05 AM |
Bob Tunnell won AS in an E36 M3, I think he was the only one entered when he won. That being said, I don't see anyone else winning in one. Should be very interesting. I think with the CS Miatas moving into ES, Jeff Cashmore is looking for something new to drive, he may move into a BS MR2. At our last local event, he beat Lamont, Wynveen, and James Yom on raw time, in his ES car.
Honestly I think it will turn out to be the 350Z vs. the RX-8 which isn't a bad thing. And after a couple years we'll have another spec class after one is proven to be better than the other, but next year should be fun.
(Unless someone comes in with some old car and kills everyone)
Honestly I think it will turn out to be the 350Z vs. the RX-8 which isn't a bad thing. And after a couple years we'll have another spec class after one is proven to be better than the other, but next year should be fun.
(Unless someone comes in with some old car and kills everyone)
| del105 | 10-13-2004 11:02 AM |
Aside from it being a BS car I've been in the market for a 2000 M coupe. How would this car compare in BS? Would it be nationally competitive in 2005?
| 10th Warrior | 10-13-2004 11:35 AM |
granted, the only car of the new (or old) BS i've driven was an under-tired 350Z, but DAMN, that's a fun car :D i'd put my money on that.
the power upgrade is only for the 35th Anniversary edition. it looses torque in the process. i also don't think the Track is the way to go. too heavy.
the power upgrade is only for the 35th Anniversary edition. it looses torque in the process. i also don't think the Track is the way to go. too heavy.
| ratt_finkel | 10-13-2004 12:16 PM |
Wow, so what's going to be left in CS. The MR2 Spyder?
| WRX11 | 10-13-2004 04:32 PM |
Having personally seen a good Sti driver and good s2000 driver, I'd said it depends on the course layout. Either one of them could do well.
| jmott | 10-13-2004 05:49 PM |
[QUOTE=WRX11]Having personally seen a good Sti driver and good s2000 driver, I'd said it depends on the course layout. Either one of them could do well.[/QUOTE]
having personally seen nationals results:
corvette owns j00 all
=)
having personally seen nationals results:
corvette owns j00 all
=)
| jmott | 10-13-2004 05:50 PM |
[QUOTE=10th Warrior]granted, the only car of the new (or old) BS i've driven was an under-tired 350Z, but DAMN, that's a fun car :D i'd put my money on that.
the power upgrade is only for the 35th Anniversary edition. it looses torque in the process. i also don't think the Track is the way to go. too heavy.[/QUOTE]
some really good drivers tried a 350z for a while a decided it was hopeless.
there is no stock legal way to get any camber up front apparently.
the power upgrade is only for the 35th Anniversary edition. it looses torque in the process. i also don't think the Track is the way to go. too heavy.[/QUOTE]
some really good drivers tried a 350z for a while a decided it was hopeless.
there is no stock legal way to get any camber up front apparently.
| adhowe70 | 10-13-2004 08:21 PM |
[QUOTE=KC]Don't worry, I won't go fast this year.. it's my 1st time auto-xing a RWD car. :)[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what I said at the beginning of this year. I struggled all year and *bam* I put it all together at Nationals. The S2000 was my first RWD car (I'd never even owned a RWD tow rig) and the change was very worthwhile. Very challenging, but very worthwhile.
Rear wheel drive advice... when you trailbrake and the back end swings out... flooring it doesn't help settle the car down. :lol:
Andy H.
That's exactly what I said at the beginning of this year. I struggled all year and *bam* I put it all together at Nationals. The S2000 was my first RWD car (I'd never even owned a RWD tow rig) and the change was very worthwhile. Very challenging, but very worthwhile.
Rear wheel drive advice... when you trailbrake and the back end swings out... flooring it doesn't help settle the car down. :lol:
Andy H.
| robmarch | 10-13-2004 08:47 PM |
[QUOTE=z3coupe]As for the STi in AS? Come on guys, STU is the playground we should be in. Lets get enough cars to get it classed nationaly![/QUOTE]
that and esp? or did they move the STi to BSP?
that and esp? or did they move the STi to BSP?
| afpdl | 10-13-2004 08:51 PM |
[QUOTE=robmarch]that and esp? or did they move the STi to BSP?[/QUOTE]
Nope ESP is still the best place for an STi, just cost more. Im not sure if the rally cars will be top dog in STU yet.
Nope ESP is still the best place for an STi, just cost more. Im not sure if the rally cars will be top dog in STU yet.
| altiain | 10-13-2004 09:29 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]Wow, so what's going to be left in CS. The MR2 Spyder?[/QUOTE]
No, the '99+ Miatas are still in C Stock. Only the '94-'97 Miatas (and the Z3s) were moved to E Stock.
No, the '99+ Miatas are still in C Stock. Only the '94-'97 Miatas (and the Z3s) were moved to E Stock.
| dwx | 10-13-2004 10:02 PM |
[QUOTE=afpdl]Nope ESP is still the best place for an STi, just cost more. Im not sure if the rally cars will be top dog in STU yet.[/QUOTE]
I think the 05 STI is the best STU car currently out there. I don't think the E36 M3 on street tires has what it takes to keep up with the STI/EVO on street tires. The front LSD in the 05 STI is great imho and gives it an advantage over the EVO.
I think the 05 STI is the best STU car currently out there. I don't think the E36 M3 on street tires has what it takes to keep up with the STI/EVO on street tires. The front LSD in the 05 STI is great imho and gives it an advantage over the EVO.
| mnavarro | 10-14-2004 08:59 AM |
The STI can be competitive in a lot of classes, look at this:
[url]http://www.selgp.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.selgp.com/[/url]
| RS WRC | 10-14-2004 10:29 AM |
[QUOTE=mnavarro]The STI can be competitive in a lot of classes, look at this:
[url]http://www.selgp.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
:) :)
[url]http://www.selgp.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
:) :)
| ColinL | 10-14-2004 10:51 AM |
[QUOTE=dwx]I think the 05 STI is the best STU car currently out there. I don't think the E36 M3 on street tires has what it takes to keep up with the STI/EVO on street tires. The front LSD in the 05 STI is great imho and gives it an advantage over the EVO.[/QUOTE]
same helical front LSD in the '04 Evo RS and all trims for '05 (GSR, RS, MR)
same helical front LSD in the '04 Evo RS and all trims for '05 (GSR, RS, MR)
| afpdl | 10-14-2004 01:10 PM |
[QUOTE=mnavarro]The STI can be competitive in a lot of classes, look at this:
[url]http://www.selgp.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
Sure as long as you only race against other stis.
[url]http://www.selgp.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
Sure as long as you only race against other stis.
| ratt_finkel | 10-14-2004 01:50 PM |
Do you have a link for all this?
| mnavarro | 10-14-2004 02:20 PM |
[QUOTE=afpdl]Sure as long as you only race against other stis.[/QUOTE]
It looks like there are other cars in there, but after further reading I see your point.
It looks like there are other cars in there, but after further reading I see your point.
| FSelekler | 10-14-2004 03:28 PM |
[QUOTE=afpdl]Sure as long as you only race against other stis.[/QUOTE]
I do not think our blue STi currently can play in the ESP top 3 at Nationals. However, we did win the ESP championship for 2004 in the Washington DC region against very competitive Camaros; the runner up was Sam Strano's Camaro that he won the 2002 National championship with, driven by Tyler Stewart. I think it is quite a bit of accomplishement given it was the first year in its development and we lost many points early in the season while development was in its infancy.
Also, I don't think having the fastest Subaru in all but one event is something sneeze at :) That includes the Wash DC ProSolo.
We have few more things to do this winter of course. Then again, this has nothing to do with the AS class, which I also think STi and Evo have no chance in it; may be it can be moved to BS :D
I do not think our blue STi currently can play in the ESP top 3 at Nationals. However, we did win the ESP championship for 2004 in the Washington DC region against very competitive Camaros; the runner up was Sam Strano's Camaro that he won the 2002 National championship with, driven by Tyler Stewart. I think it is quite a bit of accomplishement given it was the first year in its development and we lost many points early in the season while development was in its infancy.
Also, I don't think having the fastest Subaru in all but one event is something sneeze at :) That includes the Wash DC ProSolo.
We have few more things to do this winter of course. Then again, this has nothing to do with the AS class, which I also think STi and Evo have no chance in it; may be it can be moved to BS :D
| KC | 10-14-2004 03:32 PM |
[QUOTE=FSelekler]may be it can be moved to BS :D[/QUOTE]
If it does, then you can save me a boatload of $$ by me not having to travel to the ProSolos. :D
--kC
If it does, then you can save me a boatload of $$ by me not having to travel to the ProSolos. :D
--kC
| ChrisW | 10-14-2004 03:34 PM |
fselekler,
when you autox the STI, do you leave the DCCD in auto? I ran against this guy last weekend who said that he manually changed the settings while running the course.
He was able to beat my best time, but I found out afterwards that he was also running an ECUTEK mapped ECU (don't know if boost control parameters were changed or not) and he was also running illegal adjustable trailing links with piro-ball joints instead of bushings.
In anycase I found it interesting that he was navigating the course, one hand on the steeringwheel, the other on the DCCD dial...
anyone else do that?
when you autox the STI, do you leave the DCCD in auto? I ran against this guy last weekend who said that he manually changed the settings while running the course.
He was able to beat my best time, but I found out afterwards that he was also running an ECUTEK mapped ECU (don't know if boost control parameters were changed or not) and he was also running illegal adjustable trailing links with piro-ball joints instead of bushings.
In anycase I found it interesting that he was navigating the course, one hand on the steeringwheel, the other on the DCCD dial...
anyone else do that?
| ChrisW | 10-14-2004 03:36 PM |
[QUOTE=afpdl]Nope ESP is still the best place for an STi, just cost more. Im not sure if the rally cars will be top dog in STU yet.[/QUOTE]
On street tires, the STI can easily rule STU.
On street tires, the STI can easily rule STU.
| afpdl | 10-14-2004 03:38 PM |
[QUOTE=ChrisW]fselekler,
anyone else do that?[/QUOTE]
That sounds a bit insane. Ive always picked a setting or left it in auto, there are enough other things to worry about besides moving a little wheel back and forth.
anyone else do that?[/QUOTE]
That sounds a bit insane. Ive always picked a setting or left it in auto, there are enough other things to worry about besides moving a little wheel back and forth.
| afpdl | 10-14-2004 03:40 PM |
[QUOTE=ChrisW]On street tires, the STI can easily rule STU.[/QUOTE]
If it was equal tires I would say sure, but all the rwd cars can have 275s. Im nt saying the evo and sti wont be at the top just that I havent seen proof either way yet. And Ill still be trying STU myself.
If it was equal tires I would say sure, but all the rwd cars can have 275s. Im nt saying the evo and sti wont be at the top just that I havent seen proof either way yet. And Ill still be trying STU myself.
| FSelekler | 10-14-2004 03:44 PM |
[QUOTE=ChrisW]fselekler,
when you autox the STI, do you leave the DCCD in auto? I ran against this guy last weekend who said that he manually changed the settings while running the course.
He was able to beat my best time, but I found out afterwards that he was also running an ECUTEK mapped ECU (don't know if boost control parameters were changed or not) and he was also running illegal adjustable trailing links with piro-ball joints instead of bushings.
In anycase I found it interesting that he was navigating the course, one hand on the steeringwheel, the other on the DCCD dial...
anyone else do that?[/QUOTE]
I found that impressive to say the least :) changing setting in [i]autox[/i] while running is no small wonder IMO. Our drivers prefer different settings, I personally leave it in auto most of the time; unless it is a course that causes wheel lift. But we have new spring rates on our new coilovers, I suspect we will not be lifting the wheel at all or no more than 0.1 seconds; we'll see... :)
KC - if they move us to BS next year, I'll buy you RX8; at a reasonable price of course :D
when you autox the STI, do you leave the DCCD in auto? I ran against this guy last weekend who said that he manually changed the settings while running the course.
He was able to beat my best time, but I found out afterwards that he was also running an ECUTEK mapped ECU (don't know if boost control parameters were changed or not) and he was also running illegal adjustable trailing links with piro-ball joints instead of bushings.
In anycase I found it interesting that he was navigating the course, one hand on the steeringwheel, the other on the DCCD dial...
anyone else do that?[/QUOTE]
I found that impressive to say the least :) changing setting in [i]autox[/i] while running is no small wonder IMO. Our drivers prefer different settings, I personally leave it in auto most of the time; unless it is a course that causes wheel lift. But we have new spring rates on our new coilovers, I suspect we will not be lifting the wheel at all or no more than 0.1 seconds; we'll see... :)
KC - if they move us to BS next year, I'll buy you RX8; at a reasonable price of course :D
| jbrennen | 10-14-2004 11:27 PM |
[QUOTE=FSelekler]Also, I don't think having the fastest Subaru in all but one event is something sneeze at :) That includes the Wash DC ProSolo.
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And SELGP was also involved in the development of the fastest Evo at all WDCR events, plus the Atlanta & DC ProSolos. Okay, it was the only Evo in Atlanta, but SELGP led the way with some very innovative thinking about tire selection... ;)
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And SELGP was also involved in the development of the fastest Evo at all WDCR events, plus the Atlanta & DC ProSolos. Okay, it was the only Evo in Atlanta, but SELGP led the way with some very innovative thinking about tire selection... ;)
| adhowe70 | 10-17-2004 01:34 PM |
An alternative to the STi in AS... I've posted my Honda for sale on S2KI. If anyone on this board is interested, send me a PM.
It has one National Championship, 3 top 5's and 5 top 10's. I drove it to 5th in B Stock at this year's Nationals and my times would have been good for 10th in the "new AS", 1.5 seconds faster than the fastest AS Scooby. Its less expensive than a new STi (and most used STi's) and already setup and ready to go.
Andy H.
It has one National Championship, 3 top 5's and 5 top 10's. I drove it to 5th in B Stock at this year's Nationals and my times would have been good for 10th in the "new AS", 1.5 seconds faster than the fastest AS Scooby. Its less expensive than a new STi (and most used STi's) and already setup and ready to go.
Andy H.
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