| living4surf | 12-02-2006 10:34 PM |
aftermarket steering wheel
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i am thinking about installing an aftermarket steering wheel into my 2002 wrx and i have a few questions.
has anyone been able to install a wheel and keep their cruise control and if you did can you please post pics?
also what is the easiest way to install a wheel as far as hubs and things like that?
i also want to use a quick release what does every one recomend?
thanks
has anyone been able to install a wheel and keep their cruise control and if you did can you please post pics?
also what is the easiest way to install a wheel as far as hubs and things like that?
i also want to use a quick release what does every one recomend?
thanks
| shikataganai | 12-02-2006 10:38 PM |
don't value your life much? unless this is in a track only car where you'll be outfitted with a helmet, a cage, and a harness, then you're just being stupid. style is not worth the loss of an airbag.
my old car just a month or two ago:
[img]http://toshiclark.com/images/miscellaneous/wrecked%20wrx%20-%20october%2015,%202006/Images/DSC03430.jpg[/img]
note airbags.
[img]http://toshiclark.com/images/miscellaneous/wrecked%20wrx%20-%20october%2015,%202006/Images/DSC03445.jpg[/img]
my old car just a month or two ago:
[img]http://toshiclark.com/images/miscellaneous/wrecked%20wrx%20-%20october%2015,%202006/Images/DSC03430.jpg[/img]
note airbags.
[img]http://toshiclark.com/images/miscellaneous/wrecked%20wrx%20-%20october%2015,%202006/Images/DSC03445.jpg[/img]
| Handsdown | 12-02-2006 10:41 PM |
agreed. keep airbag. sti wheel is a nice upgrade, keeps the airbag
| wrxkidid775 | 12-02-2006 10:54 PM |
+1 for an sti wheel. poor fmic. howd that happen?
| shikataganai | 12-02-2006 11:02 PM |
here's the tale: [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1114050[/url]
| living4surf | 12-02-2006 11:31 PM |
i really dont want this to turn into a keep the airbag thread. lets please keep this thread on topic.
| 4wdrift | 12-03-2006 02:29 AM |
Good luck keeping the criuse. It can be done as i've seen it here neumerous times. Ask Subiegal. She got rid of hers and kept the criuse control. Good luck...
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| calib17a | 12-03-2006 03:46 AM |
Just buy another wrx or sti wheel with airbag and get it reupolstered. I just bought another sti wheel and it's getting wrapped in black or dark blue suede with the red stitching and extra padding for a thicker wheel. This way I have a custom wheel while retaining factory cruise control and airbag.:) Here's a link to a shop in Florida that does this:
[url]http://www.aglausa.com/[/url]
Here's another shop in Texas:
[url]http://www.american-stitches.com/amstitches/pages_2/steeringwheels.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.aglausa.com/[/url]
Here's another shop in Texas:
[url]http://www.american-stitches.com/amstitches/pages_2/steeringwheels.htm[/url]
| PeteDucati | 12-03-2006 08:06 AM |
The smaller diameter makes aftermarket wheels that much more appealing..
You can almost see the cruise control arm in this picture:
[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/PeteDucati/Subaru5-28b.jpg[/IMG]
I used a couple of plastic spacers from Sears Hardware to elevate the controller. I bought a couple of stadard pitched bolts with hex heads and drilled and tapped the hub. A dremel type tool with some good bits is necessary. To get my hub to fit I had to grind some of it anyway - I would've been up the creek if I didn't have the carbide bit, along with access to a garage where I was able to use their air tools. The slot in the hub for the horn/air bag/cruise control plug is too small. A good carbide bit and some grease will quickly grind the aluminum on the hub away.
The quick release is not supposed to be for daily driving - and it also moves the wheel quite a bit close to you (I believe).
Installation? I believe you'll need a torx bit and an 18mm socket. Take the horn pad off by unscrewing the torx bolts from behind. Disconnect the battery (air bag). With the key out of the ignition (steering wheel locked and straight) take the nut from the steering column off. Unplug everything. Grab both sides of the wheel, pull and rock it off. Momo sells a resistor to shut off the air bag light.
If there's a mechanic you trust for stuff like this, I suggest you take the car to him.
[url]http://www.ltbmotorsports.com/steeringwheel.html[/url]
Here's where I've been getting my wheels.. I like swapping them out every once in a while when I start getting bored with one.. right now I'm using this one.
[IMG]http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/ltbmotorsport_1927_6481961[/IMG]
It has those alcantara side grips.
You can almost see the cruise control arm in this picture:
[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/PeteDucati/Subaru5-28b.jpg[/IMG]
I used a couple of plastic spacers from Sears Hardware to elevate the controller. I bought a couple of stadard pitched bolts with hex heads and drilled and tapped the hub. A dremel type tool with some good bits is necessary. To get my hub to fit I had to grind some of it anyway - I would've been up the creek if I didn't have the carbide bit, along with access to a garage where I was able to use their air tools. The slot in the hub for the horn/air bag/cruise control plug is too small. A good carbide bit and some grease will quickly grind the aluminum on the hub away.
The quick release is not supposed to be for daily driving - and it also moves the wheel quite a bit close to you (I believe).
Installation? I believe you'll need a torx bit and an 18mm socket. Take the horn pad off by unscrewing the torx bolts from behind. Disconnect the battery (air bag). With the key out of the ignition (steering wheel locked and straight) take the nut from the steering column off. Unplug everything. Grab both sides of the wheel, pull and rock it off. Momo sells a resistor to shut off the air bag light.
If there's a mechanic you trust for stuff like this, I suggest you take the car to him.
[url]http://www.ltbmotorsports.com/steeringwheel.html[/url]
Here's where I've been getting my wheels.. I like swapping them out every once in a while when I start getting bored with one.. right now I'm using this one.
[IMG]http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/ltbmotorsport_1927_6481961[/IMG]
It has those alcantara side grips.
| dnaL0R | 12-07-2006 12:09 AM |
where can i get the srs resistor? and as far as diy goes, how hard is it, will it take me 1/2 day to do it? i got the nrg quick release and the shorty hub, along with a momo monte carlo steering wheel...
| PeteDucati | 12-07-2006 02:18 PM |
I picked up the MOMO hub kit that came with the resistor. I'm sure you can find a thread where someone mentions which one to use.
It took me about 45 minutes to install my wheel - and that's because I had to grind the hub to fit over that plug. In theory it should only take 1/2 hour, but if you're going to retro-fit the cruise it might take longer. Remember, I was drilling and tapping and rigging it by the seat of my pants - I'm surprised it came out as nice as it did. I'll try to take a better pic of the cruise later today.
It took me about 45 minutes to install my wheel - and that's because I had to grind the hub to fit over that plug. In theory it should only take 1/2 hour, but if you're going to retro-fit the cruise it might take longer. Remember, I was drilling and tapping and rigging it by the seat of my pants - I'm surprised it came out as nice as it did. I'll try to take a better pic of the cruise later today.
| PeteDucati | 12-07-2006 03:20 PM |
[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/PeteDucati/MOMOandcruise.jpg[/IMG]
I used plastic "risers" from Sears hardware along with two black hex screws. The red led bulb is for the methanol injection. Good luck.
I used plastic "risers" from Sears hardware along with two black hex screws. The red led bulb is for the methanol injection. Good luck.
| dnaL0R | 12-07-2006 03:24 PM |
that looks real nice...
| AbACUZ | 12-07-2006 07:54 PM |
[QUOTE=living4surf;16185329]i really dont want this to turn into a keep the airbag thread. lets please keep this thread on topic.[/QUOTE]
:huh: then you can change your user name to [B]livingB4crash[/B] :banana: :rolleyes:
:huh: then you can change your user name to [B]livingB4crash[/B] :banana: :rolleyes:
| dnaL0R | 12-07-2006 10:00 PM |
what...?
| wagonmasta | 12-07-2006 10:08 PM |
mmmm broken face
| PeteDucati | 12-08-2006 05:14 AM |
A seatbelt by it's self offers far better protection than an airbag w/ no belt. That's a fact. How's a face going to get broken if you're wearing a belt?
Supplemental Restraint System - the seatbelt is still the primary restraint.
Supplemental Restraint System - the seatbelt is still the primary restraint.
| shikataganai | 12-08-2006 08:52 AM |
[QUOTE=PeteDucati;16251962]A seatbelt by it's self offers far better protection than an airbag w/ no belt. That's a fact. [B]How's a face going to get broken if you're wearing a belt?[/B]
Supplemental Restraint System - the seatbelt is still the primary restraint.[/QUOTE]
a seatbelt + airbag offers far better protection than a seatbelt w/ no airbag. that's a fact. :lol: it's not like the airbag does nothing -- thousands of crash tests can attest to this.
Supplemental Restraint System - the seatbelt is still the primary restraint.[/QUOTE]
a seatbelt + airbag offers far better protection than a seatbelt w/ no airbag. that's a fact. :lol: it's not like the airbag does nothing -- thousands of crash tests can attest to this.
| dnaL0R | 12-08-2006 08:55 AM |
but the seatbelt does majority of the work right? i mean, i'm not saying airbags are pointless, but it's not like the seatbelt won't work without it...
| dnaL0R | 12-08-2006 09:02 AM |
i just don't think an airbag is THAT useful when you've got your setbelt on... i know it aids towards your safety, no doubt, but i've never heard of anyone saying, "the airbag saved my life." side airbag is a different story though, that i think will make a huge difference...
[imho]
[imho]
| shikataganai | 12-08-2006 07:19 PM |
uh, TONS of people say "the airbag saved my life". i don't know where you got that idea.
[url]http://www.howstuffworks.com/airbag.htm[/url] says "To date, statistics show that air bags reduce the risk of dying in a direct frontal crash by about 30 percent". an old, 1996 survey (before "smart airbags") says the figure was an 11 percent reduction back then.
moral of the story: an airbag won't be the greatest if you fly through the windshield because you didn't buckle up, but it does have a significant benefit when used in conjunction with the belt. a 30 percent reduction in fatal accidents is a lot...
[url]http://www.howstuffworks.com/airbag.htm[/url] says "To date, statistics show that air bags reduce the risk of dying in a direct frontal crash by about 30 percent". an old, 1996 survey (before "smart airbags") says the figure was an 11 percent reduction back then.
moral of the story: an airbag won't be the greatest if you fly through the windshield because you didn't buckle up, but it does have a significant benefit when used in conjunction with the belt. a 30 percent reduction in fatal accidents is a lot...
| Tunaboy | 12-08-2006 07:32 PM |
This thread's getting really stupid. We all know that an airbag is useful.... OK
| dnaL0R | 12-08-2006 10:21 PM |
ok ok... fine, i'll install mine this weekenddd :lol:
| IIdiceII | 12-09-2006 10:38 AM |
i dont like airbags...search youtube and watch people setting them off. honestly, id rather have a nice nardi steering wheel with harness bar and harness :D
id rather enjoy some whiplash then a broken/burnt face from an airbag thank you.
id rather enjoy some whiplash then a broken/burnt face from an airbag thank you.
| Subie Gal | 12-09-2006 12:01 PM |
gawd you guys are such asshats sometimes.
dude wants an aftermarket wheel
he's not asking for your opinion on airbags
to the OP:
i have an aftermarket wheel in my daily driver
I have it with cruise and horn and turn signal cancels
I will post photos to give you an idea of what it looks like
as far as the airbag bull...
i had this setup in my Legacy when it was totalled.
[img]http://www.subiegal.com/thecars/subarulegacy/subarulegacycrash3.jpg[/img]
i walked away without a scratch. as did my other 2 passengers.
Ya know what FIRST thing the first responder said was?
[i]....good thing you took that airbag out... or we'd be calling you an ambulance right now...[/i]
i'm 5'-nothing so i sit inches away from the steering wheel.
airbags arent for everyone guys.
i dont even sweat the fact that i dont have one.
let dude search for what he wants/needs without the ridicule.
especially when some of you have no clue what you're on about. :lol:
[b]keep this thread on topic or posts will be deleted....[/b]
you're not going to buggar up this guys thread/requests w/your preaching.
my $.02 and then some
Jamie [url=http://www.subiegal.com/][img]http://www.subiegal.com/subiegal-smilie.png[/img][/url]
dude wants an aftermarket wheel
he's not asking for your opinion on airbags
to the OP:
i have an aftermarket wheel in my daily driver
I have it with cruise and horn and turn signal cancels
I will post photos to give you an idea of what it looks like
as far as the airbag bull...
i had this setup in my Legacy when it was totalled.
[img]http://www.subiegal.com/thecars/subarulegacy/subarulegacycrash3.jpg[/img]
i walked away without a scratch. as did my other 2 passengers.
Ya know what FIRST thing the first responder said was?
[i]....good thing you took that airbag out... or we'd be calling you an ambulance right now...[/i]
i'm 5'-nothing so i sit inches away from the steering wheel.
airbags arent for everyone guys.
i dont even sweat the fact that i dont have one.
let dude search for what he wants/needs without the ridicule.
especially when some of you have no clue what you're on about. :lol:
[b]keep this thread on topic or posts will be deleted....[/b]
you're not going to buggar up this guys thread/requests w/your preaching.
my $.02 and then some
Jamie [url=http://www.subiegal.com/][img]http://www.subiegal.com/subiegal-smilie.png[/img][/url]
| zer0_thirteen | 12-31-2006 08:09 PM |
I don't want to resurrect an old thread, but I've been searching on the topic and this is kinda like what I'm asking.
I want to get an aftermarket steering wheel as well as I'm not happy with the stock WRX one. Instead of an STi one (or even just one off of a new Subaru), I'd like to get one from an S2000 (with airbag) or a E90 BMW (with airbag). Both cars have small, comfortable steering wheels. While I haven't driven a new GTi, I like their steering wheel too! (don't know diameter though).
I know its possible to have another brand steering wheel on one's subaru (anything is possible with enough money), but my question is: is it feasible on a somewhat tight budget? Like, would it be 400 dollars or less? Or would it require a lot of fabrication specially for the project that would be really expensive?
Thanks!
I want to get an aftermarket steering wheel as well as I'm not happy with the stock WRX one. Instead of an STi one (or even just one off of a new Subaru), I'd like to get one from an S2000 (with airbag) or a E90 BMW (with airbag). Both cars have small, comfortable steering wheels. While I haven't driven a new GTi, I like their steering wheel too! (don't know diameter though).
I know its possible to have another brand steering wheel on one's subaru (anything is possible with enough money), but my question is: is it feasible on a somewhat tight budget? Like, would it be 400 dollars or less? Or would it require a lot of fabrication specially for the project that would be really expensive?
Thanks!
| calib17a | 12-31-2006 09:29 PM |
I've got an extra STI steering wheel I won on ebay w/o airbag. I'll have it wrapped in black or blue suede with red stitching and extra padding around the wheel. I'll just install my existing airbag in this one.
| PeteDucati | 01-01-2007 09:20 AM |
There are so many variables when trying to fit a non-universal wheel on any car. You'll definately lose your cruise control and if both airbag systems don't ignite in a similar way it may not go off anyhow. But the first issue would be the splines on the steering column - if they don't fit the wheel don't even bother trying to rig it.
Momo wheels start cheap and don't get too expensive ($250). The hub is only ~$80. And you can swap wheels whenever you feel fit.
Momo wheels start cheap and don't get too expensive ($250). The hub is only ~$80. And you can swap wheels whenever you feel fit.
| scooby9 | 01-01-2007 01:10 PM |
[QUOTE=PeteDucati;16187207]
[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/PeteDucati/Subaru5-28b.jpg[/IMG]
[/QUOTE]
Nice job with the steering wheel!:) Where did you get the mount for your satellite radio?
[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/PeteDucati/Subaru5-28b.jpg[/IMG]
[/QUOTE]
Nice job with the steering wheel!:) Where did you get the mount for your satellite radio?
| stewgod | 01-01-2007 01:25 PM |
VOILA
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=990291&highlight=sparco+install[/url]
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=990291&highlight=sparco+install[/url]
| PeteDucati | 01-02-2007 09:21 PM |
Got the goose neck through the local radio installer - I think theysold me a used one!
| scooby9 | 01-03-2007 12:31 AM |
[QUOTE=PeteDucati;16515978]Got the goose neck through the local radio installer - I think theysold me a used one![/QUOTE]
Looks great though. I need a place to put my Sirius receiver other than the windshield...
Looks great though. I need a place to put my Sirius receiver other than the windshield...
| PeteDucati | 01-14-2007 07:56 AM |
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1177965[/url]
I took pictures and started this thread - I hope it helps.
I took pictures and started this thread - I hope it helps.
| Siper2 | 01-14-2007 11:54 AM |
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/Siper2/Subaru%20Impreza/STi-Ver6-steeringwheel.jpg[/IMG]
/thread
;)
/thread
;)
| wrcf1 | 01-14-2007 12:26 PM |
IMO using a removable aftermarket steering wheel is the best way to keep an a-hole from stealing your ride, and helps with the chicks too:rolleyes: .
as for the airbag, from a frontal impact experience, I was safe with my seatbelt harness alone; the airbag only graced my nose. if airbags are that great, why don't WRC and F1 manufactures use them?
as for the airbag, from a frontal impact experience, I was safe with my seatbelt harness alone; the airbag only graced my nose. if airbags are that great, why don't WRC and F1 manufactures use them?
| BritneySpears | 01-14-2007 02:27 PM |
never mind i said mean things...
| o2sys | 01-14-2007 02:43 PM |
man all these accidents happening and its only Jan of 07
| Siper2 | 01-14-2007 02:51 PM |
[QUOTE=wrcf1;16660394]if airbags are that great, why don't WRC and F1 manufactures use them?[/QUOTE]
Street and race are NOT the same thing.
Street and race are NOT the same thing.
| wrcf1 | 01-14-2007 07:50 PM |
yeah, racing is driving at higher speed:devil:
| living4surf | 01-15-2007 12:03 AM |
ok even i admit that airbags are probably a good thing though i am going to be removing them but to say wrc and f1 dont use them is stupid. in a fully prepped race car with cage and harnesses the airbag would be useless
| SiFuSpEc | 01-15-2007 09:29 AM |
[QUOTE=Siper2;16660171][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/Siper2/Subaru%20Impreza/STi-Ver6-steeringwheel.jpg[/IMG]
/thread
;)[/QUOTE]
yea if you want to drive your car like a truck
those wheels are huge.
/thread
;)[/QUOTE]
yea if you want to drive your car like a truck
those wheels are huge.
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