| TimStevens | 08-28-2002 02:21 PM |
More evidence of McRae's departure...
Apparently nobody from Ford has talked to him regarding a drive for next year... and it is getting awfully late...
[QUOTE]The problem is at the moment there's no commitment from Ford, I don't want to have to hang on, hoping that Ford are going to come up with something and if they don't, I've turned down another good offer. If a good offer comes along, then obviously it would be seriously considered. It would be a shame to have to leave the team, but if they can't come up with anything solid soon, then that may be the case.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://rally.racing-live.com/en/headlines/news/detail/020828111803.shtml[/url]
I, for one, say kick Tommi to the curb and bring back McRae! Sure, he crashes too, but at least he can win rallies!
-tim
[QUOTE]The problem is at the moment there's no commitment from Ford, I don't want to have to hang on, hoping that Ford are going to come up with something and if they don't, I've turned down another good offer. If a good offer comes along, then obviously it would be seriously considered. It would be a shame to have to leave the team, but if they can't come up with anything solid soon, then that may be the case.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://rally.racing-live.com/en/headlines/news/detail/020828111803.shtml[/url]
I, for one, say kick Tommi to the curb and bring back McRae! Sure, he crashes too, but at least he can win rallies!
-tim
| Thug | 08-28-2002 02:24 PM |
He wouldnt win any more rallies than Tommi has in the new car. He's got a bad temper and when the car breaks he seems to drive with rage and is likely to crash. And well, the Subaru breaks alot.
| Coati | 08-28-2002 02:29 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by y2k4door [/i]
[B]He wouldnt win any more rallies than Tommi has in the new car. He's got a bad temper and when the car breaks he seems to drive with rage and is likely to crash. And well, the Subaru breaks alot. [/B][/QUOTE]
Plus Colin is more likely to injure himself beating on his own car after an incident. At least Tommi doesn't do that.:lol:
If Subaru could only add Colin to the current team along with a more reliable, faster car. Oh, and I'd like to win the lottery, please.
[B]He wouldnt win any more rallies than Tommi has in the new car. He's got a bad temper and when the car breaks he seems to drive with rage and is likely to crash. And well, the Subaru breaks alot. [/B][/QUOTE]
Plus Colin is more likely to injure himself beating on his own car after an incident. At least Tommi doesn't do that.:lol:
If Subaru could only add Colin to the current team along with a more reliable, faster car. Oh, and I'd like to win the lottery, please.
| pio!pio! | 08-28-2002 02:35 PM |
IMHO Ford should drop both Colin and Carlos. Keep Markko cuz like Petter he will only improve. Then sign some other cheaper experienced man to help w/ the cars development.
| TimStevens | 08-28-2002 02:37 PM |
I think he's settled down a lot since that big crash at the end of last year. He's still a cocky bastard, but he's damn good, and I'm of the firm belief he couldn't do any worse than Tommi... :(
-tim
-tim
| Raxy | 08-29-2002 07:20 PM |
Colin should go to Mitsubishi and race with his brother. Mitsu can definitely afford him, considering the crappy drivers they currently have!
| AutoXr | 09-01-2002 02:51 PM |
Colin was quoted in RallyXS magazine as saying would like a chance to drive on the same team as his brother at some point. I think that Mitsu should try to sign him.
Incidentally, in the same article, Colin said whenever he sees Alister on recce, he gives him the finger. Talk about family ties...
Incidentally, in the same article, Colin said whenever he sees Alister on recce, he gives him the finger. Talk about family ties...
| Imprezer | 09-01-2002 04:01 PM |
I want so see Juha back with SWRT.
-Alex
-Alex
| johnfelstead | 09-01-2002 04:31 PM |
what you smoking alex? Yuha is no longer at the level of the top 5 drivers, he has been ultra sucessful and is a fantastic guy but he isnt a driver i would want to see lead Subaru forward.
I think it's pretty likely Colin will be driving for Citroen, he has been having not so quiet meetings and meals with Citroen bosses all year at the events.
I think if ford wanted to keep him they would have made an offer by now, they may be playing for money, but i think Citroen will give Colin what he wants so Ford is pushing their luck!
I think it's pretty likely Colin will be driving for Citroen, he has been having not so quiet meetings and meals with Citroen bosses all year at the events.
I think if ford wanted to keep him they would have made an offer by now, they may be playing for money, but i think Citroen will give Colin what he wants so Ford is pushing their luck!
| TimStevens | 09-01-2002 04:44 PM |
Citroen? I dunno... sounds a little far-fetched...
| johnfelstead | 09-01-2002 05:08 PM |
Why? Citroen have the budget and they have the ambition. They are the partner company to Peugeot who are doing sort of OK. ;)
Citroen have won two tarmac rallies this year (OK, so Monte they were dropped to 2nd, but at worst they were ultra competitive) with a guy who has very little experience.
They have a programe in place to do the full championship, all they need is a top driver. It makes complete sense to me. Dont forget McRae has put years into ford and they are not looking like catching Peugeot for a couple of years at least, so what has Colin got to lose? Ford are pumping a fortune into F1 for the next 3 years with Jaguar and now Jordan, i think the WRC will have it's budget cut and the drivers are the first to go in that.
As to Colin going to Mitsubishi, not a chance, he would retire before driving that nail. :eek:
Citroen have won two tarmac rallies this year (OK, so Monte they were dropped to 2nd, but at worst they were ultra competitive) with a guy who has very little experience.
They have a programe in place to do the full championship, all they need is a top driver. It makes complete sense to me. Dont forget McRae has put years into ford and they are not looking like catching Peugeot for a couple of years at least, so what has Colin got to lose? Ford are pumping a fortune into F1 for the next 3 years with Jaguar and now Jordan, i think the WRC will have it's budget cut and the drivers are the first to go in that.
As to Colin going to Mitsubishi, not a chance, he would retire before driving that nail. :eek:
| Thug | 09-01-2002 05:25 PM |
The new Mitsu sucks.
Id be willing to bet money Colin is going to Citroen.
Id be willing to bet money Colin is going to Citroen.
| TimStevens | 09-01-2002 06:15 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
[B]Why? Citroen have the budget and they have the ambition.[/B][/QUOTE]
All true. But, the same could be said of Ford a few years ago, and he certainly wasn't too happy then. I just don't see him putting himself back into the same sort of position to try to develop a new team and a new car when he was so frustrated when things went wrong before.
But, we'll all see before long, I'm sure ;)
-tim
[B]Why? Citroen have the budget and they have the ambition.[/B][/QUOTE]
All true. But, the same could be said of Ford a few years ago, and he certainly wasn't too happy then. I just don't see him putting himself back into the same sort of position to try to develop a new team and a new car when he was so frustrated when things went wrong before.
But, we'll all see before long, I'm sure ;)
-tim
| Dave99 | 09-02-2002 02:27 AM |
OH MY GOD! :eek:
Money aside (which is obviously a big deal), Citroen have kicked some serious ass this year, despite their limited number of showings! This is largely in part to WRC's answer to Juan Pablo Montoya in the form of Sebastien Loeb! :cool:
Can you imagine Loeb and McRae together with Citroen? Just what the doctor ordered to attack the Gronholm / Burns duo! If the Citroen runs as well next year as it has this year against the Peugeots, then we could be for a serious treat! :)
I appreciate Peugeot's outstanding commitment but it feels just like a Ferrari Formula One season all over again. :rolleyes:
Dave.
Money aside (which is obviously a big deal), Citroen have kicked some serious ass this year, despite their limited number of showings! This is largely in part to WRC's answer to Juan Pablo Montoya in the form of Sebastien Loeb! :cool:
Can you imagine Loeb and McRae together with Citroen? Just what the doctor ordered to attack the Gronholm / Burns duo! If the Citroen runs as well next year as it has this year against the Peugeots, then we could be for a serious treat! :)
I appreciate Peugeot's outstanding commitment but it feels just like a Ferrari Formula One season all over again. :rolleyes:
Dave.
| Imprezer | 09-02-2002 03:07 AM |
I really like Juha. He is good driver and a good person. He have never been involved in any weird things and is always on top of things. Yes, he is getting older and he isn't what he used to be, but he sure is one hellova driver.
Lets not forget the 2000 season, when Richard B almost won the tittle. That season, they both scored # of 1-2 finishes with Juha being second. Why? Two words. Team orders. SWRT wanted to "brew" Richard's skill at Juha's expense. They did a good job and now Rich is a world champ, but guess what, he is no longer with SWRT and I doubt he ever will be.
Juha, on the other hand, got really offended, when in 2001, SWRT offered Juha few rallies to driver. Those few, that they though Martin wasn't good at. That is when Juha left. I feel for him, and I wish he would get into ANY of the top teams. Because with their strenth, he will show us all, that he isn't done yet.
Sniff-sniff,
-Alex
Lets not forget the 2000 season, when Richard B almost won the tittle. That season, they both scored # of 1-2 finishes with Juha being second. Why? Two words. Team orders. SWRT wanted to "brew" Richard's skill at Juha's expense. They did a good job and now Rich is a world champ, but guess what, he is no longer with SWRT and I doubt he ever will be.
Juha, on the other hand, got really offended, when in 2001, SWRT offered Juha few rallies to driver. Those few, that they though Martin wasn't good at. That is when Juha left. I feel for him, and I wish he would get into ANY of the top teams. Because with their strenth, he will show us all, that he isn't done yet.
Sniff-sniff,
-Alex
| foxdeman | 09-02-2002 06:08 AM |
He didnt seem too mad when his car caught on fire (the phone call that the speed(vision) crew recorded "um . . john, yea, you had better send a car, this ones on fire . . yea, really on fire")
| ShockWave | 09-02-2002 12:59 PM |
Tommi has always been my favorite driver, and Subaru is my favorite team, so no surprise that I don't want any changes there.
I am also very impressed with Petter and agree that he and Markko are the rising stars, so best to hold on to him as well.
What I would like to see is SWRT pick up a third driver, maybe a tarmac specialist, to add another threat. Much like I see with Ford's McRae, Sainz and Martin, and Peugeot's Grunholm, Burns and Harri.
...oh, and I think McRae will go to Citroen.
go Skoda:D
I am also very impressed with Petter and agree that he and Markko are the rising stars, so best to hold on to him as well.
What I would like to see is SWRT pick up a third driver, maybe a tarmac specialist, to add another threat. Much like I see with Ford's McRae, Sainz and Martin, and Peugeot's Grunholm, Burns and Harri.
...oh, and I think McRae will go to Citroen.
go Skoda:D
| TimStevens | 09-02-2002 07:36 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ShockWave [/i]
[B]What I would like to see is SWRT pick up a third driver, maybe a tarmac specialist, to add another threat. Much like I see with Ford's McRae, Sainz and Martin, and Peugeot's Grunholm, Burns and Harri.[/B][/QUOTE]
You mean like whatshisface... the guy who broke a wheel on the first corner of the first stage of the first day?
[B]What I would like to see is SWRT pick up a third driver, maybe a tarmac specialist, to add another threat. Much like I see with Ford's McRae, Sainz and Martin, and Peugeot's Grunholm, Burns and Harri.[/B][/QUOTE]
You mean like whatshisface... the guy who broke a wheel on the first corner of the first stage of the first day?
| jblaine | 09-03-2002 09:40 AM |
:lol:
That was painful to watch. "Oh, who is this guy? Cool. Let's see what he can... oops *laughter* Someone got a little too excited."
That was painful to watch. "Oh, who is this guy? Cool. Let's see what he can... oops *laughter* Someone got a little too excited."
| tonytiger | 09-03-2002 04:57 PM |
IQ test:
Juha to rally is like
a) Irvine
b) Hakkinen
c) Villeneuve
to Formula 1?
Send your answers to [email][email protected][/email] and fly high...
Personally I think Tommi's bad season is mostly bad luck and bad engineering on the background. Tommi will lead the way, whatch and smile :)
I wouldn't like Colin back at Subaru. Tommi and Petter will do just fine. Maybe a third driver with driver's license would also be nice ;)
tony
Juha to rally is like
a) Irvine
b) Hakkinen
c) Villeneuve
to Formula 1?
Send your answers to [email][email protected][/email] and fly high...
Personally I think Tommi's bad season is mostly bad luck and bad engineering on the background. Tommi will lead the way, whatch and smile :)
I wouldn't like Colin back at Subaru. Tommi and Petter will do just fine. Maybe a third driver with driver's license would also be nice ;)
tony
| TimStevens | 09-03-2002 04:58 PM |
[QUOTE]
I wouldn't like Colin back at Subaru. Tommi and Petter will do just fine. Maybe a third driver with driver's license would also be nice ;)[/B][/QUOTE]
[I]TimStevens runs to get his wallet[/I]
License still valid in NY!!!
I wouldn't like Colin back at Subaru. Tommi and Petter will do just fine. Maybe a third driver with driver's license would also be nice ;)[/B][/QUOTE]
[I]TimStevens runs to get his wallet[/I]
License still valid in NY!!!
| Ryan24 | 09-04-2002 12:22 AM |
Personally I would love to see Colin behind the wheel of a potent tarmac car like Citroen.
I think having Colin with Citroen will give them someone they are looking for to be competitive on gravel and with experience on that kind of surface too
Subaru should try and get Carlos though, hopefully he doesn't retire any time soon. They should still try and run three cars with three competitive drivers
-Tommi brings experience and hope for the present
-Hollywood brings youth and the future or SWRT
-??? to help with tarmac events or with points
Maybe Gronholm will get fed up of Burns and want to leave Peugeot....Yeah right:lol:
I think having Colin with Citroen will give them someone they are looking for to be competitive on gravel and with experience on that kind of surface too
Subaru should try and get Carlos though, hopefully he doesn't retire any time soon. They should still try and run three cars with three competitive drivers
-Tommi brings experience and hope for the present
-Hollywood brings youth and the future or SWRT
-??? to help with tarmac events or with points
Maybe Gronholm will get fed up of Burns and want to leave Peugeot....Yeah right:lol:
| ImprezaRS dot com | 09-04-2002 02:41 AM |
I'm with Alex on this one...
| aspera | 09-04-2002 04:21 AM |
Who was that guy that broke the wheel? It made for great TV. Not everyday you see something like that.
| pio!pio! | 09-04-2002 04:38 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by aspera [/i]
[B]Who was that guy that broke the wheel? It made for great TV. Not everyday you see something like that. [/B][/QUOTE]
Achim Mortyl (spelling?)
[B]Who was that guy that broke the wheel? It made for great TV. Not everyday you see something like that. [/B][/QUOTE]
Achim Mortyl (spelling?)
| aspera | 09-04-2002 06:24 AM |
How would that be pronounced, exactly?:)
| Shik | 09-04-2002 09:32 AM |
[quote]I really like Juha. He is good driver and a good person. He have never been involved in any weird things and is always on top of things[/quote]
Yeah, he was only Toyota's number one driver when they were banned from the WRC for using a totally illegal restrictor :lol: j/k
It's really hard to say where Subaru is heading at this point. I for one admit to maybe being a bit immature when I felt Tommi was going to get in the seat this year and, while maybe not win a championship, at least be in a tough fight for it at this point.
I do feel that Tommi and Petter easily have what it takes to fight for the Championship against the Peugeot crew as far as driving is concerned, and I don't think adding another driver is going to help any, just cost a lot more money at this point. Once they start getting on the podium rally after rally, then I can see a third "regular" driver being a benifit.
Still makes me wonder if the lack of David Richards' "hands on" presence, which has been missing for some time now in the team, has anything to do with their less then stellar results the last few years. I know Mr. Felstead says Richards is the king of assembling a group of people who can run things on their own, but still. I know I wouldn't want to have to see him moments after crashing a WRC Impreza :)
Yeah, he was only Toyota's number one driver when they were banned from the WRC for using a totally illegal restrictor :lol: j/k
It's really hard to say where Subaru is heading at this point. I for one admit to maybe being a bit immature when I felt Tommi was going to get in the seat this year and, while maybe not win a championship, at least be in a tough fight for it at this point.
I do feel that Tommi and Petter easily have what it takes to fight for the Championship against the Peugeot crew as far as driving is concerned, and I don't think adding another driver is going to help any, just cost a lot more money at this point. Once they start getting on the podium rally after rally, then I can see a third "regular" driver being a benifit.
Still makes me wonder if the lack of David Richards' "hands on" presence, which has been missing for some time now in the team, has anything to do with their less then stellar results the last few years. I know Mr. Felstead says Richards is the king of assembling a group of people who can run things on their own, but still. I know I wouldn't want to have to see him moments after crashing a WRC Impreza :)
| aspera | 09-06-2002 01:19 AM |
Is it the drivers or the cars?
Maybe Subaru should make an Impreza hatchback like the Focus WRC or the WRC Pug. It seems to work for the other teams. Subaru has had successful coupes in WRC in the past...maybe it's time for another coupe.
What cars have advantages as far as wheelbase, track, weight distribution, low CG, etc.?
What cars have advantages as far as wheelbase, track, weight distribution, low CG, etc.?
| Idjiit | 09-06-2002 09:18 AM |
Oh god, not this argument again... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
| aspera | 09-06-2002 11:27 PM |
:)
| Tangmere | 09-07-2002 11:37 AM |
[QUOTE]Yeah, he was only Toyota's number one driver when they were banned from the WRC for using a totally illegal restrictor [/QUOTE]
It wasn't totally illegal as you said. It was a "creative" interpretation of the rules that was later determined to be illegal. It did have the inspectors smiling at the ingenuity of it.
Mark
It wasn't totally illegal as you said. It was a "creative" interpretation of the rules that was later determined to be illegal. It did have the inspectors smiling at the ingenuity of it.
Mark
| meebs | 09-07-2002 08:58 PM |
[quote]This is largely in part to WRC's answer to Juan Pablo Montoya in the form of Sebastien Loeb![/quote]
Don't you mean Mr. Raikkonen? :D
Don't you mean Mr. Raikkonen? :D
| AndyRoo | 09-08-2002 12:08 AM |
I definately think Colin is going to Citroen after this season. Carlos has offered to take a pay cut in order to stay on the team, so i think Ford will keep him, and they have good reason to. Carlos and Markko would be a pretty good team, I think, especially if Markko continues to improve, which he undoubtedly will. How old is Carlos, anyways?
As for Juha, i think he is a badass and the reason he isnt doing well could be the very limited outings in a Hyundai. Plop him back into a more competitive car and let him go more than a few times, and i think you have a lot more points for him. I really dont know, im just guessing and i cant back any of this up.
As for Juha, i think he is a badass and the reason he isnt doing well could be the very limited outings in a Hyundai. Plop him back into a more competitive car and let him go more than a few times, and i think you have a lot more points for him. I really dont know, im just guessing and i cant back any of this up.
| johnfelstead | 09-08-2002 08:18 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Tangmere [/i]
[B]
It wasn't totally illegal as you said. It was a "creative" interpretation of the rules that was later determined to be illegal. It did have the inspectors smiling at the ingenuity of it.
Mark [/B][/QUOTE]
rubish
It was out and out breaking the rules. That is why the FIA banned the whole team for 12 months plus didnt allow them to run on the NetworkQ rally a couple of weeks later! They dont ban an entire team and put people out of work for a minor discresion.
[B]
It wasn't totally illegal as you said. It was a "creative" interpretation of the rules that was later determined to be illegal. It did have the inspectors smiling at the ingenuity of it.
Mark [/B][/QUOTE]
rubish
It was out and out breaking the rules. That is why the FIA banned the whole team for 12 months plus didnt allow them to run on the NetworkQ rally a couple of weeks later! They dont ban an entire team and put people out of work for a minor discresion.
| Ryouga | 09-08-2002 07:00 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by meebs [/i]
[B]Don't you mean Mr. Raikkonen? :D[/B][/QUOTE]
Nah, Montoya is more apropos because Loeb was successful in the Super 1600 series (feeder to WRC), while so far as I know Raikonnen came out of nowhere. :lol:
[B]Don't you mean Mr. Raikkonen? :D[/B][/QUOTE]
Nah, Montoya is more apropos because Loeb was successful in the Super 1600 series (feeder to WRC), while so far as I know Raikonnen came out of nowhere. :lol:
| TimStevens | 09-09-2002 03:54 PM |
Whelp... guess we all know where McRae's headed. NASCAR claims another victim!
[url]http://www.motorsportvortex.com/artman/publish/article_1485.shtml[/url]
[url]http://www.motorsportvortex.com/artman/publish/article_1485.shtml[/url]
| johnfelstead | 09-09-2002 06:15 PM |
I'll be there on Saturday for the CART race that ASCAR is suporting. I hope Colin shakes them up, last year i fell asleep watching the ASCAR race! And thats the truth!! :D
| meebs | 09-09-2002 11:45 PM |
off the topic
[quote]Nah, Montoya is more apropos because Loeb was successful in the Super 1600 series (feeder to WRC), while so far as I know Raikonnen came out of nowhere. [/quote]
Ah, true. I guess that was what I was trying to say. Raikonnen is like, hmm... "the next big thing" in my book. I can't wait for a Montoya vs. Raikonnen rivalry. That would save F1 for me.
Ah, true. I guess that was what I was trying to say. Raikonnen is like, hmm... "the next big thing" in my book. I can't wait for a Montoya vs. Raikonnen rivalry. That would save F1 for me.
| Dave99 | 09-10-2002 01:13 AM |
Yeah I'm sick of that Schumacher guy already! ;) Well he's good but it's bloody well time for a change!
And Colin McRae better get his Focus corrected . . . Asscar don't have the goods like WRC, though I wouldn't be surprised if he was so ambitious to set his eyes on KART or eventally the big time . . . F1!
Alas, WRC would suffer a true tragedy should Colin ever depart! He is by far the coolest WRC driver! Totally extreme driver, but the most casual in his manner.
Dave.
And Colin McRae better get his Focus corrected . . . Asscar don't have the goods like WRC, though I wouldn't be surprised if he was so ambitious to set his eyes on KART or eventally the big time . . . F1!
Alas, WRC would suffer a true tragedy should Colin ever depart! He is by far the coolest WRC driver! Totally extreme driver, but the most casual in his manner.
Dave.
| Red-Impreza | 09-11-2002 12:15 PM |
[QUOTE]I really like Juha. He is good driver and a good person. [/QUOTE]
I vote for Juha! OK, so he's a little long in the tooth. I like him and it'd be great to see him kicking butt again.
(** Red-Imp takes a long drag and passes to Alex, "...'ere" **)
:devil:
I vote for Juha! OK, so he's a little long in the tooth. I like him and it'd be great to see him kicking butt again.
(** Red-Imp takes a long drag and passes to Alex, "...'ere" **)
:devil:
| Idjiit | 09-12-2002 08:14 AM |
I guess no one else saw that Colin visited Citroen yesterday? Sounds like he was pretty impressed.
[url]http://www.wrc.com/en_GB/News/NewsDetail/2002_R_I_McRaeCitroenFactory.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.wrc.com/en_GB/News/NewsDetail/2002_R_I_McRaeCitroenFactory.htm[/url]
| TimStevens | 09-12-2002 08:18 AM |
I guess that about seals it, then :( But, I like Loeb, and he and McRae would be a damn good team.
| TimStevens | 09-12-2002 08:22 AM |
Hrm... well it doesn't seem like Ford quite feels that way:
[url]http://rally.racing-live.com/en/headlines/news/detail/020910094401.shtml[/url]
[url]http://rally.racing-live.com/en/headlines/news/detail/020910094401.shtml[/url]
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