| Scoobie Doogie | 01-12-2007 05:00 PM |
DC Pro Solo Event is open for registration
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Hey all. The DC Pro is open for registration. Get in before it fills up! I know some of you think it's silly to register for an event that is in JUNE but this one fills up FAST!:huh: [url]www.scca.com[/url]
KC, you coming down? Jen & Phil? Dave? Keefe? Mike? Eric? John? Bueller, Bueller?
Dave Mac
KC, you coming down? Jen & Phil? Dave? Keefe? Mike? Eric? John? Bueller, Bueller?
Dave Mac
| jcroy66 | 01-12-2007 05:04 PM |
Phil and I are registered. I think we were 51 and 52.
| mccanixx | 01-12-2007 05:10 PM |
[QUOTE=jcroy66;16645099]Phil and I are registered. I think we were 51 and 52.[/QUOTE]
Filling up already....................ehhh.
Filling up already....................ehhh.
| Imprezivblue | 01-12-2007 05:10 PM |
I'm registered :).
| alltracin | 01-12-2007 05:54 PM |
Pete and I are reg in STS. :cool:
| ghostshadow | 01-12-2007 06:01 PM |
at this rate it's going to fill up by tonight. the nyr crew is in!
| KC | 01-12-2007 06:08 PM |
In!!! #157 :) (just over 1 hour later)
--kC
--kC
| MattNJ2.8 | 01-12-2007 07:01 PM |
+2 for me and teh woman
| cooleyjb | 01-12-2007 07:33 PM |
see below for post about someone complaining that all the locals took the spots and some of the big name national people are SOL. Wow it's fillin up fast.
| Scoobie Doogie | 01-12-2007 07:46 PM |
I did my part to get in onto NASIOC and evolutionm.net.
Dave Mac
Dave Mac
| crystalhelix | 01-12-2007 07:46 PM |
<-----#184
just reg'd about 30 minutes ago
just reg'd about 30 minutes ago
| Storm | 01-12-2007 07:56 PM |
I got in at #193.
Gonna rock the Brighton in FSP!!!! 245-50-13s FTW!
Jay Storm
Gonna rock the Brighton in FSP!!!! 245-50-13s FTW!
Jay Storm
| Scoobie Doogie | 01-12-2007 08:26 PM |
Up to 203 entries as of 2 minutes ago.
Dave Mac
Dave Mac
| Corey | 01-12-2007 08:35 PM |
I'm in... I think I was number 24 or something, and that was only about 2PM... it will fill before midnight tonight for sure.
Come on STU people, one of the reasons I left STS was because nobody was showing up, now they have more than STU. You STI's afraid of all those little 2 litre EVO's?
Corey #89 STU
Come on STU people, one of the reasons I left STS was because nobody was showing up, now they have more than STU. You STI's afraid of all those little 2 litre EVO's?
Corey #89 STU
| Scoobie Doogie | 01-12-2007 08:36 PM |
:devil: Yeaahh, come on ya little bishes.
Dave Mac
Dave Mac
| waktasz | 01-12-2007 08:37 PM |
I quit STU because of you guys (not really). ESP here I come :)!
| Scoobie Doogie | 01-12-2007 09:00 PM |
waktasz get to play with teh boostorz.
| alltracin | 01-12-2007 09:17 PM |
315 A6s ftw. go. buy. now. make fit. Then run 22psi in the midrange and find a way to put it down. Race that in the pro :devil:
| Chiketkd | 01-12-2007 09:26 PM |
[QUOTE=alltracin;16645704]Pete and I are reg in STS. :cool:[/QUOTE]
Thanks to the heads up that you and Shawn gave me...I'm registered in DS!!! :cool:
Thanks to the heads up that you and Shawn gave me...I'm registered in DS!!! :cool:
| solo-x | 01-12-2007 09:34 PM |
Ninja edit. My car number is all whacked though.
| waktasz | 01-12-2007 09:57 PM |
[QUOTE=alltracin;16647750]315 A6s ftw. go. buy. now. make fit. Then run 22psi in the midrange and find a way to put it down. Race that in the pro :devil:[/QUOTE]
The map I run now peaks at about 19 but makes me hella nervous. I'm turning it down a bit, but it sure is a totally different beast with the boost turned up.
I really need a wideband and EGT gauges before I do anything serious with the tune.
The map I run now peaks at about 19 but makes me hella nervous. I'm turning it down a bit, but it sure is a totally different beast with the boost turned up.
I really need a wideband and EGT gauges before I do anything serious with the tune.
| bucket7788 | 01-12-2007 10:15 PM |
Noob Pro Solo entrant here.
I'm looking forward to meeting you all.
Buck
I'm looking forward to meeting you all.
Buck
| Imprezivblue | 01-12-2007 10:20 PM |
230 has been reached. Crazy.
edit: Registrations are still going through even though I thought it was capped at 230.
edit: Registrations are still going through even though I thought it was capped at 230.
| Scoobie Doogie | 01-12-2007 10:30 PM |
233 registered now.
Dave Mac
Dave Mac
| mjautoxer | 01-12-2007 10:33 PM |
Yup, I was #230, and now it is still climbing. lol
Mark
Mark
| Scoobie Doogie | 01-12-2007 10:54 PM |
Ha! Mark, I just responded to you over on Evom.
Dave Mac
Dave Mac
| bdi | 01-13-2007 01:06 AM |
Just signed up. Figure I might as well pop my Pro Solo ch***y. I was 250?!?! The cap is 230 right? But it still let me register....maybe im on the waiting list.
| Eric | 01-13-2007 10:29 AM |
Support your local Pro Solo
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As of Sat. 1/13
el toro =36
walnut ridge =23
mineral wells =2
DC = 250
Packwood = 3
Looks like DC is once again leading the way in support for Pro Solo.
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el toro =36
walnut ridge =23
mineral wells =2
DC = 250
Packwood = 3
Looks like DC is once again leading the way in support for Pro Solo.
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| Scoobie Doogie | 01-13-2007 12:23 PM |
This is very clearly showing that DC needs a 2nd Pro scheduled for later in the year. Maybe National can work out something with our Region to figure it out. I bet the 2nd one would fill just as quickly. If they're worried about the $ then make the entry fee $100.
Dave Mac
Dave Mac
| Chiketkd | 01-13-2007 04:01 PM |
[QUOTE=Scoobie Doogie;16652290]This is very clearly showing that DC needs a 2nd Pro scheduled for later in the year. Maybe National can work out something with our Region to figure it out. I bet the 2nd one would fill just as quickly. If they're worried about the $ then make the entry fee $100.
Dave Mac[/QUOTE]
Turning a profit isn't an issue when you have 250 people registered at $85 a piece. However, the registration numbers at the other venues are extremely low and money WILL be lost unless many more people sign up.
Here's hoping Pro Solo survives well into the future. :)
Dave Mac[/QUOTE]
Turning a profit isn't an issue when you have 250 people registered at $85 a piece. However, the registration numbers at the other venues are extremely low and money WILL be lost unless many more people sign up.
Here's hoping Pro Solo survives well into the future. :)
| solo-x | 01-13-2007 10:05 PM |
Here's an idea, why don't all the one timer n00bs that signed up for DC sign up for Walnut Ridge too? I mean, hell, KC and I are coming all the way down from MA. DC is WAAAAYYYY closer to Walnut Ridge then Boston is. If you REALLY want to figure out if Pro Solo is for you, drive more then 2hrs to get to one. My first Pro was a 9hr drive, one way. I didn't trailer, though my car did have a radio still. (no a/c though) Coming back from that Pro, I drove straight through, arriving at home at 2am, then getting up at 6am to go to work. Despite all that, I was STILL hooked and immediately signed up for the Peru and Oscoda Pro's that year. Ran the finale too.
Yeah, DC Pro filled up quick, but just like what happened last year, they'll only have 200 or so competitors. Why? Well, the DC Pro is pushed hard towards n00bs. While all that is well in good, the local n00bs fill the event really quickly. This forces nationally level guys that support the series by attending more then one pro solo to register early, long before they know if they can truly make it or not. Also, the n00bs don't have the same level of commitment, so they tend to drop out if the weather looks iffy, a good movie is coming out that weekend, or they just plain flake out after they can think about the decision for 3 months. "Yeah, it's a pro and everyone says it's fun, but it cost $85 for the weekend... That's a lot of money....". The series won't live by selling to one timers. You gotta get the guys that'll drive 10hrs one way in a maddeningly uncomfortable car just to make the event. Those guys will be at every event they can physically make come hell or high water. And they'll fight like their life is at stake when the series is in jeopardy.
Am I against n00bs? Not at all. Am I against one timers that don't have the commitment to support the series by attending more events yet block the true series supporters from making events they need/want by flooding the one event nearest them? Yes. Yes I am. If you REALLY want to support Pro Solo and you're going to the DC Pro, sign up for the Walnut Ridge Pro as well. Hell, even if you aren't going to DC, sign up for another Pro. Any one will do. Sign up, show up, have fun. Maybe we'll get to do it again next year.
Yeah, DC Pro filled up quick, but just like what happened last year, they'll only have 200 or so competitors. Why? Well, the DC Pro is pushed hard towards n00bs. While all that is well in good, the local n00bs fill the event really quickly. This forces nationally level guys that support the series by attending more then one pro solo to register early, long before they know if they can truly make it or not. Also, the n00bs don't have the same level of commitment, so they tend to drop out if the weather looks iffy, a good movie is coming out that weekend, or they just plain flake out after they can think about the decision for 3 months. "Yeah, it's a pro and everyone says it's fun, but it cost $85 for the weekend... That's a lot of money....". The series won't live by selling to one timers. You gotta get the guys that'll drive 10hrs one way in a maddeningly uncomfortable car just to make the event. Those guys will be at every event they can physically make come hell or high water. And they'll fight like their life is at stake when the series is in jeopardy.
Am I against n00bs? Not at all. Am I against one timers that don't have the commitment to support the series by attending more events yet block the true series supporters from making events they need/want by flooding the one event nearest them? Yes. Yes I am. If you REALLY want to support Pro Solo and you're going to the DC Pro, sign up for the Walnut Ridge Pro as well. Hell, even if you aren't going to DC, sign up for another Pro. Any one will do. Sign up, show up, have fun. Maybe we'll get to do it again next year.
| Scoobie Doogie | 01-14-2007 12:45 AM |
You could have a bake sale open up at Fed Ex Field and it would fill up in 7 hours. Any SCCA member has the right to sign on for an event regardless of their level of series commitment or lack thereof. The Pro was not "pushed at noobs" this year, it's just a matter of having proximity to a large population of VERY active autocrossers. Take a look at the entry list for this year, I don't think many of the series regulars missed signing up.
Dave
Dave
| bucket7788 | 01-14-2007 07:39 AM |
solo-x, I'm a one time noob. Just to be perfectly clear, I am competing for entirely selfish reasons. I want to learn by watching some better drivers than me, and I want to have a good time. I am not out to "support" Pro Solo. I really don't care if the other Pro events don't get much attendance. Sounds like they should be moved. You act as though there is something wrong with me for only competing in one Pro. Give me a break man, I've never done it before. I don't even know if I'll like it (even though I'm pretty sure I will). Outside of that, my work schedule is pretty weekend intensive, so it's really hard to make these kinds of events. I have to pick and choose...gee I think I'll choose the one that's closest to home.
Buck
Buck
| PhilC | 01-14-2007 08:32 AM |
This year based on what happened last year prompted calls and emails to go out the minute it opened. Most of the series regulars know each other and we started to let our friends know as soon as we saw it open because we didn't want them to get locked out again this year. I know Jen made literally dozens of calls and that a LOT of people were able to get into the event because of that.
From a lot of the DC people I get the feeling that you're of the opinion that DC region is the best region in the country and that in your opnion there is no point in driving any distance to experience another region. WDCR is a great region and it truly is amazing the level of support autocross has in the region but it's not the only good region out there. Last year's DC Pro was a great event despite the monsoon, but the Walnut Ridge Pro was better even though it was twice as far away from our home. And it had nothing to do with the attendance numbers.
From a lot of the DC people I get the feeling that you're of the opinion that DC region is the best region in the country and that in your opnion there is no point in driving any distance to experience another region. WDCR is a great region and it truly is amazing the level of support autocross has in the region but it's not the only good region out there. Last year's DC Pro was a great event despite the monsoon, but the Walnut Ridge Pro was better even though it was twice as far away from our home. And it had nothing to do with the attendance numbers.
| bucket7788 | 01-14-2007 09:35 AM |
Phil, I certainly understand that the regulars don't want to get locked out of competition. Rightly so. They are the ones that are the most serious about the competition. Perhaps there ought to be something like a reserved spot for those that trophied in 1 or more Pro's the previous year. If there isn't a provision for that, there ought to be.
Regarding the DC region thing, I'm not from there, but I think the point is that the events should be held where there is greatest demand for them. WDCR is at a geographical location that makes it convenient for a boat load of people to attend.
I realize that event sites are limited for Pro type events, so there are only a few venue's that we can use. If I am not mistaken, the new "non-mirrored" course has the potential to somewhat remedy that. I hope so.
Buck
Regarding the DC region thing, I'm not from there, but I think the point is that the events should be held where there is greatest demand for them. WDCR is at a geographical location that makes it convenient for a boat load of people to attend.
I realize that event sites are limited for Pro type events, so there are only a few venue's that we can use. If I am not mistaken, the new "non-mirrored" course has the potential to somewhat remedy that. I hope so.
Buck
| Scoobie Doogie | 01-14-2007 01:07 PM |
Phil-
Tell Jen "Thank You" for all of her legwork (phonework) to get the regulars out! It will be good to see some intense competition at DC. Nobody said DC was the "best" region Phil, they are just proud of their region like any other people would be. It's not that people say there is "no point in driving any distance to experience another region". It IS a matter of convenience to a large population of autocrossers. Please don't bash the DC people for getting numbers to attend their home Pro Solo, start with your own region and get your own people to go. How many people from your region attend Pro Solo events? It's not a "them" problem it's an "us" problem. We ALL need to work within our own regions to get people out to Pro's.
Dave Mac
Tell Jen "Thank You" for all of her legwork (phonework) to get the regulars out! It will be good to see some intense competition at DC. Nobody said DC was the "best" region Phil, they are just proud of their region like any other people would be. It's not that people say there is "no point in driving any distance to experience another region". It IS a matter of convenience to a large population of autocrossers. Please don't bash the DC people for getting numbers to attend their home Pro Solo, start with your own region and get your own people to go. How many people from your region attend Pro Solo events? It's not a "them" problem it's an "us" problem. We ALL need to work within our own regions to get people out to Pro's.
Dave Mac
| jcroy66 | 01-14-2007 01:57 PM |
Ha! We're still working on people to come to our own region's events. (Our region is in the process of rebuilding its solo program.) But yeah, we do try to get people to come out to bigger events too. Very much so. :)
As for DC region, they certainly put on an excellent event. The Pro last year went tremendously well. And I really loved the course. All in all, I had a great time, and felt that that Pro went off tremendously well, despite having a monsoon and record numbers.
But on the flip side, last year I was at an event for a neighboring region. After I finished getting Phil and I registered and teched, I asked if I could help. While I was chalking out the numbers for the spots for grid, I explained to a guy that he needed to move his car, because he was parked in a grid spot (the spot was pre-marked; the number wasn't). He proceeded to bash me, the event, and the region and go on about how much better his home region, WDC, does things. All this while he's just sitting in his car, doing nothing to help. I was a visitor to the region, just like he was. But I was helping them get the event started on time, rather than complain that it wasn't already started.
IMO, words and actions like that guy's are what reflect poorly on WDC. Based on my experience at last year's DC Pro, WDC does a really good job and has reason to be proud. Pride in one's region is great. Arrogance and rudeness are not.
As for DC region, they certainly put on an excellent event. The Pro last year went tremendously well. And I really loved the course. All in all, I had a great time, and felt that that Pro went off tremendously well, despite having a monsoon and record numbers.
But on the flip side, last year I was at an event for a neighboring region. After I finished getting Phil and I registered and teched, I asked if I could help. While I was chalking out the numbers for the spots for grid, I explained to a guy that he needed to move his car, because he was parked in a grid spot (the spot was pre-marked; the number wasn't). He proceeded to bash me, the event, and the region and go on about how much better his home region, WDC, does things. All this while he's just sitting in his car, doing nothing to help. I was a visitor to the region, just like he was. But I was helping them get the event started on time, rather than complain that it wasn't already started.
IMO, words and actions like that guy's are what reflect poorly on WDC. Based on my experience at last year's DC Pro, WDC does a really good job and has reason to be proud. Pride in one's region is great. Arrogance and rudeness are not.
| Scoobie Doogie | 01-14-2007 02:01 PM |
Wow. That dude is quite the ass then. You shoulda kicked him in the ballz Jen. Actually, I'm kinda surprised you didn't. :LOL:
Dave Mac
Dave Mac
| Storm | 01-14-2007 03:56 PM |
:confused: ...and how many miles is it between DC and Walnut Ridge?:rolleyes: How many pros are being held east of the mississippi? Might make sense that it gets flooded quickly.
It doesn't do any good to complain about it on an unofficial forum.
[quote=solo-x;16656876]Here's an idea, why don't all the one timer n00bs that signed up for DC sign up for Walnut Ridge too? I mean, hell, KC and I are coming all the way down from MA. DC is WAAAAYYYY closer to Walnut Ridge then Boston is. If you REALLY want to figure out if Pro Solo is for you, drive more then 2hrs to get to one. My first Pro was a 9hr drive, one way. I didn't trailer, though my car did have a radio still. (no a/c though) Coming back from that Pro, I drove straight through, arriving at home at 2am, then getting up at 6am to go to work. Despite all that, I was STILL hooked and immediately signed up for the Peru and Oscoda Pro's that year. Ran the finale too.
Yeah, DC Pro filled up quick, but just like what happened last year, they'll only have 200 or so competitors. Why? Well, the DC Pro is pushed hard towards n00bs. While all that is well in good, the local n00bs fill the event really quickly. This forces nationally level guys that support the series by attending more then one pro solo to register early, long before they know if they can truly make it or not. Also, the n00bs don't have the same level of commitment, so they tend to drop out if the weather looks iffy, a good movie is coming out that weekend, or they just plain flake out after they can think about the decision for 3 months. "Yeah, it's a pro and everyone says it's fun, but it cost $85 for the weekend... That's a lot of money....". The series won't live by selling to one timers. You gotta get the guys that'll drive 10hrs one way in a maddeningly uncomfortable car just to make the event. Those guys will be at every event they can physically make come hell or high water. And they'll fight like their life is at stake when the series is in jeopardy.
Am I against n00bs? Not at all. Am I against one timers that don't have the commitment to support the series by attending more events yet block the true series supporters from making events they need/want by flooding the one event nearest them? Yes. Yes I am. If you REALLY want to support Pro Solo and you're going to the DC Pro, sign up for the Walnut Ridge Pro as well. Hell, even if you aren't going to DC, sign up for another Pro. Any one will do. Sign up, show up, have fun. Maybe we'll get to do it again next year.[/quote]
It doesn't do any good to complain about it on an unofficial forum.
[quote=solo-x;16656876]Here's an idea, why don't all the one timer n00bs that signed up for DC sign up for Walnut Ridge too? I mean, hell, KC and I are coming all the way down from MA. DC is WAAAAYYYY closer to Walnut Ridge then Boston is. If you REALLY want to figure out if Pro Solo is for you, drive more then 2hrs to get to one. My first Pro was a 9hr drive, one way. I didn't trailer, though my car did have a radio still. (no a/c though) Coming back from that Pro, I drove straight through, arriving at home at 2am, then getting up at 6am to go to work. Despite all that, I was STILL hooked and immediately signed up for the Peru and Oscoda Pro's that year. Ran the finale too.
Yeah, DC Pro filled up quick, but just like what happened last year, they'll only have 200 or so competitors. Why? Well, the DC Pro is pushed hard towards n00bs. While all that is well in good, the local n00bs fill the event really quickly. This forces nationally level guys that support the series by attending more then one pro solo to register early, long before they know if they can truly make it or not. Also, the n00bs don't have the same level of commitment, so they tend to drop out if the weather looks iffy, a good movie is coming out that weekend, or they just plain flake out after they can think about the decision for 3 months. "Yeah, it's a pro and everyone says it's fun, but it cost $85 for the weekend... That's a lot of money....". The series won't live by selling to one timers. You gotta get the guys that'll drive 10hrs one way in a maddeningly uncomfortable car just to make the event. Those guys will be at every event they can physically make come hell or high water. And they'll fight like their life is at stake when the series is in jeopardy.
Am I against n00bs? Not at all. Am I against one timers that don't have the commitment to support the series by attending more events yet block the true series supporters from making events they need/want by flooding the one event nearest them? Yes. Yes I am. If you REALLY want to support Pro Solo and you're going to the DC Pro, sign up for the Walnut Ridge Pro as well. Hell, even if you aren't going to DC, sign up for another Pro. Any one will do. Sign up, show up, have fun. Maybe we'll get to do it again next year.[/quote]
| Chiketkd | 01-14-2007 06:51 PM |
So are the 250 that are officially registered for the event in for certain? I wasn't sure if someone at the WDCR gave national the go ahead to raise the limit by 20.
I was the 200th person to register, so I'm in. But some strong drivers like Steve Baumbach registered after the 230 cap was passed.
I was the 200th person to register, so I'm in. But some strong drivers like Steve Baumbach registered after the 230 cap was passed.
| pjhe | 01-14-2007 07:02 PM |
i was going to jump in, but last year i registered and then something came up so i could even attend :( so i don't wanna take away a spot this year..
| Butt Dyno | 01-14-2007 11:03 PM |
I'm signed up in STX. I'm reserving the weekend of Walnut Ridge since Ms. BD will be studying for finals, pending finding a co-driver (15 hrs is a long trip in an STX car)
There was no push on the DC mailing list, either. Craig didn't send out the "registration is open" email until, IIRC, 2 hours after it started and from what it looks like there were already 150-160 people registered at that point.
john
There was no push on the DC mailing list, either. Craig didn't send out the "registration is open" email until, IIRC, 2 hours after it started and from what it looks like there were already 150-160 people registered at that point.
john
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