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Hate Factory seats, Love airbags part 1

srfrdude21 12-21-2006 01:03 AM

Hate Factory seats, Love airbags
I recently purchased a 06 WRX TR and LOVE it, however the seats do not accomadate my narrow frame (34 chest, 26 waist). I slide all over the place if i even attempt to drive aggressively, think autocrossing:devil:, and even short trips can become painful for my back. Normally I would ditch the things, and replace them with some recaros as I have done in every other car I have ever owned, EXCEPT i want to maintain some level of side impact safty as thats what seperated me from my old car and resulted in several months of not walking. Sides, that little red airbag light that comes on when I have the seats unplugged would drive me nuts. I am also unsure of its effect on the rest of the SRS system. Obviously I need a sportier seat as I race the car, but also one that can accomadate scrawny little me and provides either a side impact airbag OR something of similar value safty wise. If anyone can think of a seat that would fit some or all of those requirements I'd appreciate the input. THANKS!:confused:
wrxwhat 12-21-2006 01:06 AM

26 waist!?

That's my thigh.
Donzo 12-21-2006 01:17 AM

'02-'03 seats. They are so comfortable and are pre-fat American. I have STi seats in my WRX and they weren't much of an improvement at all. My brother's '02 seats hold me very tight and are very comfortable. Some may suggest getting JDM seats but I'm not sure which come with or without airbags and also, they will be right hand drive which means you will no longer be able to adjust seat height on the driver's seat.
srfrdude21 12-21-2006 01:30 AM

Will the 02-03 seats support a racing harness or is the bolstering adequet enough to hold someone like me in place w/ the factory belts? Also where can I can I get the things in decent or new condition....I will prolly fit them with seat covers anyway so the fabric really isnt an issue.
surfer.tech 12-21-2006 01:37 AM

the 02-03 seats are bolstered very well and hold u in tight. of course im not that small. have u ever thought of rebolstering your seats?
waypastfast 12-21-2006 01:56 AM

my buddy has a sparco torino? in his 2.5 rs, and just the drivers seat as well......amazing seat and holds you in place like nobody's business!
elsanto 12-21-2006 10:24 AM

you can take the covers off and add bolstering to the seats as well..
FlySTiGuy01 12-21-2006 10:49 AM

[QUOTE=elsanto;16401194]you can take the covers off and add bolstering to the seats as well..[/QUOTE]

+1 on that idea! then you'll get your side airbags + more support.
Uncle Scotty 12-21-2006 11:09 AM

I put a bugeye drivers seat in my '06 TR.........MUCH better....pretty simple swap....plug-n-play
Undepelo 12-21-2006 11:15 AM

1 word...
CG Lock
Uncle Scotty 12-21-2006 01:02 PM

[QUOTE=Undepelo;16401859]1 word...
CG Lock[/QUOTE]

....d0000d....you have NO POSSIBLE CLUE as to how stupid wide the '06TR seats are.

NONE.

that stupid lock would do absolutly ZERO.

I promise.

Trust Uncle on this.

REALLY.

I mean it.
Undepelo 12-21-2006 01:11 PM

[quote=Uncle Scotty;16403440]....d0000d....you have NO POSSIBLE CLUE as to how stupid wide the '06TR seats are.

NONE.

that stupid lock would do absolutly ZERO.

I promise.

Trust Uncle on this.

REALLY.

I mean it.[/quote]

Have you tried one? :rolleyes:
You can be sitting in a 1961 Chevrolet Impala front seat but if your seat belt is locking you in you're not going anywhere. :lol:
Uncle Scotty 12-21-2006 01:21 PM

[QUOTE=Undepelo;16403562]Have you tried one? :rolleyes:
You can be sitting in a 1961 Chevrolet Impala front seat but if your seat belt is locking you in you're not going anywhere. :lol:[/QUOTE]

....d0000d.....ya would bounce around, between the side bolsters, like a ******* pinball.....with or without the seatbelt locked, and NOT have full control of the vehicle due to not being able to stop this kind of motion.

you OBVIOUSLY do NOT know what you are talking about, here.


[SIZE="5"]I do.[/SIZE]

THAT is why I posted what I did.

The damn seat is NOT for 'small' people.

AT ALL

Having someone duct tape ya to that stupid TR seat may work....but short of that----nothing will help other than replacing that seat.
Undepelo 12-21-2006 01:28 PM

[quote=Uncle Scotty;16403734]....d0000d.....ya would bounce around, between the side bolsters, like a ******* pinball.....with or without the seatbelt locked, and NOT have full control of the vehicle due to not being able to stop this kind of motion.

you OBVIOUSLY do NOT know what you are talking about, here.


[SIZE=5]I do.[/SIZE]

THAT is why I posted what I did.

The damn seat is NOT for 'small' people.

AT ALL

Having someone duct tape ya to that stupid TR seat may work....but short of that----nothing will help other than replacing that seat.[/quote]


Ok man you're right..BTW have you taken your meds today?
AbACUZ 12-21-2006 01:28 PM

BURGER KING Triple Extra LargeE Hydrogenated Mod everyday !!
great boost on the rear , and padding on the sides !!! :) :) :)


not meaning to sound insensitive , people may have health or other problems , but ...
26 inch waist in a full grown adult sounds really small , how tall are you ? how old are you ?
AbACUZ 12-21-2006 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=Undepelo;16403833]Ok man you're right..BTW have you taken your meds today?[/QUOTE]

:lol: you can tell everyone that you can turn water in to wine, but if you say it like a egosentric assenine person , no one will listen.
Uncle Scotty 12-21-2006 01:48 PM

[QUOTE=AbACUZ;16403886]:lol: you can tell everyone that you can turn water in to wine, but if you say it like a egosentric assenine person , no one will listen.[/QUOTE]

....s0rry d000d.

I am, and have been, the (mostly) happy owner of an '06 TR(and an '02 WRX before that) and when ya get idiots posting out their asses....without any possible clue as to what they are posting about-----THAT pisses me off.

I am a bit larger than than OP and the TR seats are just WAY too wide and too slippery for anyone bigger than the average football lineman to fit in and have any possible hope of not sliding around when driving in any 'sporting' manner.
If the d0000d, above, had a clue....he'd know this already.

I get pissed off when fools just wanna think that their **** is cool.....and it isn't.

I do not post at random.

I do not post stupid ****.

And there is no way locking the seatbelt will do **** for ya if ya skinny and have a TR seat.

If ya got issues with anything, it is NOT me and what I post....it is with the idiots that spout drivel and don't wanna get called on it.
Undepelo 12-21-2006 02:29 PM

[quote=Uncle Scotty;16404167]....s0rry d000d.

I am, and have been, the (mostly) happy owner of an '06 TR(and an '02 WRX before that) and when ya get idiots posting out their asses....without any possible clue as to what they are posting about-----THAT pisses me off.

I am a bit larger than than OP and the TR seats are just WAY too wide and too slippery for anyone bigger than the average football lineman to fit in and have any possible hope of not sliding around when driving in any 'sporting' manner.
If the d0000d, above, had a clue....he'd know this already.

I get pissed off when fools just wanna think that their **** is cool.....and it isn't.

I do not post at random.

I do not post stupid ****.

And there is no way locking the seatbelt will do **** for ya if ya skinny and have a TR seat.

If ya got issues with anything, it is NOT me and what I post....it is with the idiots that spout drivel and don't wanna get called on it.[/quote]
:huh:

[COLOR=black]Sir for your information, I am not an idiot and your rambling posts surely point the finger in the opposite direction. My question was have you used the cg lock and you have not answered. [/COLOR]
Pain++ 12-21-2006 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=srfrdude21;16398711]I recently purchased a 06 WRX TR and LOVE it, however the seats do not accomadate my narrow frame (34 chest, 26 waist). [/QUOTE]

I have the opposite problem: 50 chest, 36 waist :(

Fatboy seats, here I come :mad:
IllNastyImpreza 12-21-2006 05:36 PM

[QUOTE=Pain++;16406666]I have the opposite problem: 50 chest, 36 waist :(

Fatboy seats, here I come :mad:[/QUOTE]

you guys should trade :)
PeteDucati 12-21-2006 07:19 PM

I've had that CG Lock on my car since I saw that stoopid Tuner Transformation episode. The reason I got it was 'cause I would slide around in my '04 LEATHER seats. I position my ass where I want it and pull - it holds me fine. I'm 5'11 and 160lbs with a white man's ass.
AWD>FWD 12-21-2006 07:21 PM

STi custom stuffed seat. I have STi interior in my TR and it is awesome, but they could use being stuffed better for my skinny ass.

26 waist? I thought I was skinny at 30....
Force 12-21-2006 07:28 PM

[quote=wrxwhat;16398738]26 waist!?

That's my thigh.[/quote]

I was gonna say...:lol:


to the OP, 02'-03' seats ftw.
PeteDucati 12-21-2006 07:33 PM

I thought those seats didn't have the side airbags? I know mine do.. and Katzkin even had the "airbag" tag sewn into the side of the seat cover.

The CG Lock definately works if your ass slides around - if it's your upper body I'd suggest you do more crunches.
Wannascooby 12-21-2006 09:25 PM

[QUOTE=Uncle Scotty;16401776]I put a bugeye drivers seat in my '06 TR.........MUCH better....pretty simple swap....plug-n-play[/QUOTE]

They aren't plug and play. You have to swap out the passenger detection sensor and the driver side needs that driver seat position detector. Plug n play as in bolt in and out, but electronically things have changed a bit
BryanH 12-21-2006 09:44 PM

I took the cover off the STi seats I swapped into my 03 and added some really hard foam rubber where I needed it. Shaping it took some time and but with some attention to detail you can make the seats whatever you want them to be. And as long as you don't go TO crazy with the amount of padding added the cover will slide right back on and look just fine. It will just feel a whole lot better.

d000000d
El Capitan 12-21-2006 10:39 PM

I always thought I would like some more support under my thighs. A little more bucket in the bucket seats. I don't slide from side to side too badly (32 waist) but I always feel like I'm sliding forward. I'm most comfortable when my tail bone is right where the upper and lower parts come together.

Keeping my foot on the dead pedal helps but who wants to drive around like that all the time when not racing?

I like to sit in a more or less a upright position as that is where I can make the steering wheel, my pedals, and and the tach fit and be seen the best.
Uncle Scotty 12-21-2006 11:33 PM

[QUOTE=Undepelo;16404892]:huh:

[COLOR=black]Sir for your information, I am not an idiot and your rambling posts surely point the finger in the opposite direction. My question was have you used the cg lock and you have not answered. [/COLOR][/QUOTE]

.....NOOOOOOOooooooo.

YOU obviously have never driven a modded '06 TR in anger with the stock drivers seat or you would NEVER have posted what you have.

THAT is THE POINT.

I HAVE----and do every day.


And anyone who thinks that the TR seat is a 'performance' seat----IN ANY WAY has either never driven one or has never driven one very hard(or maybe can't drive well enough to find the GLARING weaknesses of it).

This thread is ridiculous.



....and the bugeye drivers seat is 100% plug-n-play in the '06 if ya swap the slider....which is what I did.
02wrbrex 12-21-2006 11:38 PM

I really think the bugeye seats dont hold you much at all. I have a 34" waist and it sucks for sporty driving. I would not recommend them but if you have to have the air bag then what ever works for you..
sperry7 12-22-2006 12:08 AM

TR seats are awful, that was my deciding factor in choosing the std/ltd over the TR. Among other things of course.

There isn't much you can do (*to keep side airbags) except get a different stock seat. 02-03's are quite a bit better but it won't blow you away. I say get some Bride's, harness bar and some Takata's! If you got a few G's lying around after christmas! :p
srfrdude21 12-22-2006 12:46 AM

All useful information....including the cheeseburger diet which i tried and lost weight on...... dont ask how... but as long as the seats are strong enough to take some serious abuse I dont need the airbags, however, I never had much faith in a fiberglass seat when it came to crushing strength. I also would like to avoid any kind of serious roll bars, since we all own imprezas here, Im sure Im not the only one who can say bad things about the rear visibility. And to answear the one persons question, im 5'11, so I'm kind of out of proportion for most seats. Also does anyone know what would happen to the SRS system if i pop out the factory seats. What effect will removing the weight senors especially have on the front bag system?
srfrdude21 12-22-2006 12:50 AM

ohh and just my 2 cents but the CG lock is useless for someone my size....Ive tried it in other cars
burritotown 12-22-2006 12:59 AM

[QUOTE=02wrbrex;16410290]I really think the bugeye seats dont hold you much at all. I have a 34" waist and it sucks for sporty driving. I would not recommend them but if you have to have the air bag then what ever works for you..[/QUOTE]

What? Try adjusting it. My 02 seats hold me great, all around, and are comfortable as can be. I've never heard anybody say they don't like the 02 seats !
Pain++ 12-22-2006 10:46 AM

[QUOTE=IllNastyImpreza;16407646]you guys should trade :)[/QUOTE]


hah, I like the styling on the buckets though...

Evo3 here I come
Undepelo 12-22-2006 10:55 AM

[quote=Uncle Scotty;16410234].....NOOOOOOOooooooo.

YOU obviously have never driven a modded '06 TR in anger with the stock drivers seat or you would NEVER have posted what you have.

THAT is THE POINT.

I HAVE----and do every day.


And anyone who thinks that the TR seat is a 'performance' seat----IN ANY WAY has either never driven one or has never driven one very hard(or maybe can't drive well enough to find the GLARING weaknesses of it).

This thread is ridiculous.



....and the bugeye drivers seat is 100% plug-n-play in the '06 if ya swap the slider....which is what I did.[/quote]

Ok well read my prior posts again because I am not talking about the seats, I'm talking about the use of the seat belt to KEEP you in the seat.
Let me simplify this....Think of a TR seat as a huge wall and the seat belt with a CG lock as tape...:lol:
[IMG]http://accad.osu.edu/~ayoungs/260/jpgs/cattelan4.jpg[/IMG]
Calamity Jesus 12-22-2006 11:40 AM

Except that the tape isn't sticky and is only attached to the wall 6" away your right and left. CG-locks suck. Just buy a decent seat or add extra bolstering to your stock seats and then buy a Schroth Harness.. A CG lock can't compare.
PeteDucati 12-22-2006 11:58 AM

[QUOTE=El Capitan;16409785]I'm most comfortable when my tail bone is right where the upper and lower parts come together.

Keeping my foot on the dead pedal helps but who wants to drive around like that all the time when not racing?

I like to sit in a more or less a upright position as that is where I can make the steering wheel, my pedals, and and the tach fit and be seen the best.[/QUOTE]

You'd definitely benefit from the CG Lock - that's why I bougth one - my ass would slide around on the leather and I'd constantly need to push it back into the seat. After a while you get sick of bracing yourself with the dead pedal and your right knee.

I'm not understanding this hate everyone is spewing towards the CG Lock - it's the only reason I haven't invested in a performance seat. I pull that sucker damn tight, maybe that's why it works for me.
srfrdude21 12-22-2006 12:37 PM

...does anyone know what will happen to the front airbags if i remove the factory seats?
dowroa 12-22-2006 12:52 PM

You will just get an SRS light, IIRC.

For a direct (and legal replacement in NC anyway), you cannot remove ANYTHING that is saftey related in the car. This would include seats. With that said, I have WRX seats in my RS, and I am prb going to do something with the STi seats soon as they have much suck.

Honestly, doing it legally is hard. All seat mfgs I have seen only give you 'sports' replacement. Until SOA starts putting the SRS stuff in the headboards, we are all SOL if we want to do it the 'legal' way. :(

- dow
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fullerton 12-22-2006 01:14 PM

[QUOTE=Uncle Scotty;16403440]....d0000d....you have NO POSSIBLE CLUE as to how stupid wide the '06TR seats are.

NONE.

that stupid lock would do absolutly ZERO.

I promise.

Trust Uncle on this.

REALLY.

I mean it.[/QUOTE]


i just have an image of you pinning him on the ground.
"Say Uncle, and you'll be ok!"

:lol:
Sypher 12-22-2006 08:45 PM

Ive got an 06 TR and I just yesterday went and bought a pair of 02 wrx seats and the difference is HUGE. The 02 seats give you more leg room they are snug and very very very comfortable. THey hold me in place even when I drive like an idiot on back roads. Of course Im not the skinniest guy in the world Im 6'5 and have a 38 inch waist but if your a chunky/tall guy bugeye seats are hands down the best with side air bags.
SparkysJDMSpeedWagon 12-22-2006 10:43 PM

[QUOTE=dowroa;16415222]You will just get an SRS light, IIRC.

For a direct (and legal replacement in NC anyway), you cannot remove ANYTHING that is saftey related in the car. This would include seats. With that said, I have WRX seats in my RS, and I am prb going to do something with the STi seats soon as they have much suck.

Honestly, doing it legally is hard. All seat mfgs I have seen only give you 'sports' replacement. Until SOA starts putting the SRS stuff in the headboards, we are all SOL if we want to do it the 'legal' way. :(

- dow[/QUOTE]
sounds like your most legal, and arguably best, solution would be to add padding to the seats. that would be the most time-consuming, of course, too.
fastwrx25 12-23-2006 05:51 AM

[quote=02wrbrex;16410290]I really think the bugeye seats dont hold you much at all. I have a 34" waist and it sucks for sporty driving. I would not recommend them but if you have to have the air bag then what ever works for you..[/quote]

the other usdm stock seats are even worse.

[quote=Sypher;16420148]Ive got an 06 TR and I just yesterday went and bought a pair of 02 wrx seats and the difference is HUGE. The 02 seats give you more leg room they are snug and very very very comfortable. THey hold me in place even when I drive like an idiot on back roads. Of course Im not the skinniest guy in the world Im 6'5 and have a 38 inch waist but if your a chunky/tall guy bugeye seats are hands down the best with side air bags.[/quote]

fits small ppls good too!:banana:
Ryan314 12-23-2006 06:38 AM

Definetely try out some 02-03 WRX seats. I'm tiny myself (5'7", 130 lbs., 28 in. waiste) and I am always comfortable in my 02 WRX seats.
D fresh 12-23-2006 06:43 AM

I'm not going to get into the argument of wether or not a CG lock would help the OP as I have no experience with the TR seats, or an ass that small.

But I will say that a CG lock is a waste of money. I thought about buying one untill I learned how to lock the belt myself. Its very easy to pull out some belt, give it a jerk to lock it, and buckle. It takes some trial and error to get to the right point at which to lock the belt, too much belt and you lose the lock, too little and you can't buckle it. But once you get the hang of it its quite simple, and free. Also for a while I was using one of the metal clips that came with my daughters baby seat, it worked very good, but since figuring out the self lockage I've rarely used it.

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