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How to paint a wrx part 1

killthelights145 12-25-2005 09:31 AM

How to paint a wrx
hey i was wondering the material i need to buy to paint part of my wrx.

air compressor , and pnumatic paint gun?

i can get the paint from the subaru dealership by the gallon, but im not sure what to but to actually paint it and make it looks good


EDIT: CAR PAINTED, AND ALMOST FINISHED PICS ON PAGE 2
njskatchmo 12-25-2005 10:39 AM

Painting stuff is harder than it seems. My friend does body work and I always watch. First off don't paint in teh cold. SEcond you need clear coat, clear coat hardener, paint thinner, paint, paint reducer, primer, air compressor, air gun, plastic sheets, sandpaper to sand off the original paint and masking tape. theres a ratio to mix the reducer and paint i dont know it.
killthelights145 12-25-2005 11:41 AM

bump for more information on painting. ty njskatchmo
Highton 12-25-2005 11:43 AM

You said "part" of your WRX... I am assuming the body from what else was said.

Certain paints for certain parts respectively also.

If you do it, post before/after pics for those of us without the guts to try it!!

Good luck.
MartinD 12-25-2005 12:11 PM

go to a professional place
gnarlyWRX 12-25-2005 12:45 PM

at least go to a professional place and watch a few times and learn about the ratios etc. prep work is 80% of the job. if you dont do good prep work it doesnt matter how well you can paint. if you have never painted anything i would say have someone do it for you and you could start out on small unimportant things.
Erconcepts 12-25-2005 01:03 PM

stop, don't do it, you seem to have no concept of what you are doing, take your car somewhere before you butcher it...
amukaoen 12-25-2005 01:04 PM

anyone know the paint code for World Rally Blue on the WRX?
Tim-H 12-25-2005 01:16 PM

paintscratch.com but they are a bit pricey
Lexington 12-25-2005 01:22 PM

[QUOTE=amukaoen]anyone know the paint code for World Rally Blue on the WRX?[/QUOTE]

It is on your strut tower.

o2c i believe
killthelights145 12-25-2005 02:52 PM

why would i take it to a professional when i said i want to do it myself. i dont care if its hard i want to learn how to do it lmao. and IMO over time im saving moneys :D
AirForge 12-25-2005 04:02 PM

You need to do alot more researching before you attempt to paint your car. It is clear you don�t know much about it. Off the top of my head you will need: A paint gun, a different tip depending on what kind of primer your using, paint, clear coat, reducer, hardener, thinner, a painting mask!!!, an air compressor, a filter for the compressor, mixing cubs, lots of sandpaper, masking tape, something to cover the windows, surface cleaner and common sense. That�s most of the basics and im sure I�ve left something out. I would highly recommend building a paint booth and a fresh air respirator. I wouldn�t buy your paint directly from Subaru either. Find a good paint shop in town and buy from them, im sure they will give you lots of advice to help you along the way as well. There�s alot of good information about painting online and in books, do your self a favor and research for about a month or so before you start this project. If you post some more details about what you�re doing we could probably help you out more also. Good luck.
armand1 12-25-2005 04:39 PM

[QUOTE=AirForge]... I would highly recommend building a paint booth...[/QUOTE]
Yes. Remember that you will need the temp to be at least 50-55F for painting, and you need a place with no wind and minimal dust, etc.
killthelights145 12-25-2005 05:20 PM

thanks again. i am painting my driver fender. i just got done fixing the dent with a body hammer. i want to paint my fender and blend the color in with the door. air compressor and gun on its way tomorow.

as for the paint i was planning on buying it from a local body shop like you said. subaru says they dont carry it.....(bs) i had to go through hell for touch up paint.
njskatchmo 12-25-2005 06:31 PM

There's a paint place near me that just makes paint with the code so see if you can find one like that (It cost me 12 for half a pint which is enough to paint prolly both fenders.
KamiKaziBoarder 12-25-2005 07:11 PM

I hope that your set up is right so you don't get water, dirt, and other crap that'll mix with the paint onto the body of the car.
killthelights145 12-25-2005 07:58 PM

thankts guys ill keep you posted. im buying paint guns and compressor tomorow ill post pics :D

also what size nozzle will i need.
specialev 12-25-2005 08:15 PM

What kind of gun are you getting? You should consider the instructions that come with the gun and if different nozzles are available, you will want a coarser setting for spraying on your primer and a finer atomization for your final color and clear coat layers. I've never used a gun with more than one size nozzle, any of the guns I have used rely on pressure to control atomization.

Make sure you get a couple of inline dessicant filters when you by your paint. You would also be wise to consider an inline water filter.

Don't just use this site as your source of knowledge of painting, go to the library and pick up a book on auto painting. Putting on a good looking paint job is pretty tough, but totally worth learning how to do; spraying on color is fun.
AirForge 12-25-2005 10:07 PM

I�ve never seen a paint gun that you can�t change the tip size on. The tech sheets you get with your paint/primer should have a recommended tip size for the product you are using but basically here is what I use: 1.8 for primers 1.4 for basecoats and 1.2 for clear coats. You can use a 1.4 for clear if you are on a budget and I have done it a few times with a good finish. Armand1 makes a good point about the temperature, if you are planning to do this in a colder environment plan on the flash and dry times being MUCH longer then normal. I would also recommend an air pressure gauge you can attach just before the gun, this gives you a very accurate readout of how much pressure is actually going into the gun, and ive found that it is usually a bit off the reading on the air compressor. A good website to do research on is [url]www.autobody101.com[/url] they have good forums and good tech articles. I would take some pictures of the surface you are painting with all of your goodies tomarrow.
enewtabie 12-25-2005 10:12 PM

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I painted my rear bumper,mirrors and wipers.I backed into someone at work and gashed the rear bumper bad.I used some plastic filler from NAPA and got some wrb in acryllic enamel and sprayed the rear bumper..It's not noticeable
really unless you know what to look for. Base/Clear was frakking expensive,so I went cheap at the time. Not bad for my first time...Mixing the right amount,a tack cloth,etc was important..
killthelights145 12-25-2005 10:43 PM

amazing job enewtabie. i havnt heard of anyone else on the forums painting thier own wrx. i am young and i think its somthing fun to get into, and over time somthing i can use to save some money.

tomorow ill post pics of the aread i am going to paint, and the goodies im going to pick up :D
killthelights145 12-25-2005 10:58 PM

also what size compressor did you use. it seems like ill need at least a 5hp compressor
enewtabie 12-25-2005 11:15 PM

I'll have to look and see..can't remember off hand.
It was my friends setup.gravity fed sprayer and all..The compressor was tall as I am.
sha_zapple 12-26-2005 12:24 AM

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I painted my bumpers, mirrors, door handles, side molding, wing, and mud flaps. Its going to cost you a lot to start up. Luckily my dad already had most of the materials, and all I needed was basecoat, thinner, and clearcoat.

Talk to your local paint guy. I was lucky and got a very good guy. Get all the info sheets you can about mixing and pressure.

KEEP THE PRESSURE UP! I had my pressure set around 60 on the regulator (it would go down to 40 when the gun was operating. It was a gravity feed gun btw.

For christs sake get a regulator and filters! Paint filter, regulator filter, and charcol facemask filter for you (clear coat is nasty nasty stuff to breathe in) The regulator is a must, especially on a small compressor (I used a 5hp, which is definitly NOT made for painting anything larger than a fender).

Vacuum everything, everything must be clean. Always be swirling the paint in the gun (especially if theres metal flake in the paint) Start spraying off the surface and then move onto it then back off. Keep the gun an equal distance away from the surface. You will waste A LOT of paint because you wont know how close to get. Clearcoat is a bitch, apply many coats.

You wont be 100% happy with the final result, because youll know all the spots where you ****ed up. Be sure to prime first and get rid of EVERY. SINGLE. IMPERFECTION. in the primer stage, because it will be magnified many times by the end. Good luck, and remember if you screw up you can always sand it down and try again!
pignoseWRX 12-26-2005 01:08 AM

[QUOTE=AirForge]You need to do alot more researching before you attempt to paint your car. It is clear you don�t know much about it. Off the top of my head you will need: A paint gun, a different tip depending on what kind of primer your using, paint, clear coat, reducer, hardener, thinner, a painting mask!!!, an air compressor, a filter for the compressor, mixing cubs, lots of sandpaper, masking tape, something to cover the windows, surface cleaner and common sense. That�s most of the basics and im sure I�ve left something out. I would highly recommend building a paint booth and a fresh air respirator. I wouldn�t buy your paint directly from Subaru either. Find a good paint shop in town and buy from them, im sure they will give you lots of advice to help you along the way as well. There�s alot of good information about painting online and in books, do your self a favor and research for about a month or so before you start this project. If you post some more details about what you�re doing we could probably help you out more also. Good luck.[/QUOTE]
that's a fairly good list. i painted stuff on my last car. but i'm posting to say you really should do some research because you need to know how much a freaking gallon of paint is to paint "parts".
veightkiller 12-26-2005 04:35 AM

dude dont waste your money.just go to a prof.paint shop and let them do teh work for you it will save you some time and headache.
ControlFreak 12-26-2005 06:55 AM

[QUOTE=veightkiller]dude dont waste your money.just go to a prof.paint shop and let them do teh work for you it will save you some time and headache.[/QUOTE]

+1000

but it appears he's already got his mind set to it.. let us know how it comes out!
EastsideLegacy 12-26-2005 10:40 AM

haha ^^
killthelights145 12-26-2005 11:19 AM

yep mind is set on learning. getting parts today :)
AirForge 12-26-2005 12:28 PM

I always thought it was amazing how many people are afraid of paint on a car. If you want to learn how to do it there is only one real way and that is to simply get all the tools and information and go for it yourself. This is exactly how I learned. A few years ago i had a mustang with pretty bad paint and one day I decided that I was gonna paint it myself, just like killthelights145. All it really takes is hard work and common sense. My first attempt turned out pretty bad. I did it in my garage too late in a summer afternoon. Bugs got in while i was putting on the clear and it ruined the paint job. No big deal really, i just sanded it down the next day and reshot the paint. It still looks great to this day.

Don't let the naysayers bother you, you will save LOTS of money in the future with this skill.
gomikeyp 12-27-2005 05:43 AM

I thought it was pretty simple...

If you're painting plastic stuff, use the adhesive so the paint will stick better. I did one coat of primer, adhesive and another coat of primer.

Also for the ratio between paint/reducer, clear/hardner/reducer, when you go to a body shop/paint shop to buy the paint, they usually give you a cup with lines where to fill it up to for the right ratio. My paint shop also gave me cone filter that you put it on the can of the sprayer when you pour the pain in there.

Take your time priming like someone mentioned earlier and do multiple clear coats since for me clear coat is hard to see and had some missing spots/overspray which will cause the surface to be bumpy after you're done with it.

This is just how I did it and doesn't mean it's the perfect proper way to do it but it worked for me.

Oh and another suggestion... if you haven't got your spray gun yet, buy the top feed one. The ones that have the can in the bottom which the sprayer sucks up the paint, you'll waste paint/clear because the hose won't reach all the way to the bottom of the can to get all the paint/clear out.

Hope this helped little bit. ;)
garie 12-27-2005 06:45 AM

post pics when your done.
killthelights145 12-27-2005 10:59 AM

got compressor today. flows up enough cmf and psi for air guns. looking to buy a deviibiss finishline air guns today. one for primer and one for top coat and clear coat.

also anyone know a store where i can buy good paint guns at? lowes and homedepot are not very highquality guns
russd32 12-27-2005 12:25 PM

I would hit up a auto parts store to get a paint gun. An auto parts store-NOT AUTOZONE. You don't really need a separate gun for primer and paint/clear. Most people at body shops do that but they spray everyday, you aren't.

I would check out the finishline guns as you said. I believe you can get a kit with two different tips. I like to spray paint/clear with a 1.3 or 1.4 tip and I like a 1.4 or 1.5 tip for primer. A good compromise is a 1.4 tip to use on everything.

It sounds like you are eager to learn to that's good but I'll warn you that I wouldn't paint you car for your first job. Get some banged up fenders for free from the junk yard and spray those first to get everything dialed in as far as pressure and your technique. THE FIRST THING YOU SPRAY WILL NOT BE PERFECT!!!

If you can find a good paint supply joint you can get your paint gun and all of your supplies in the same place. They will also be able to give you lots of pointers if you have a problem since they deal with paint everyday. Another perk to using one place if you are just getting started is that they have mismatch paint. When I sold paint we had tons of paint that someone screwed up mixing so we just threw it on the shelf. I saved it for guys like you that need materials for practice or a small odd job that could use free paint.

I would get a book on painting or see if you can find a video. I would love to type every step out and give you pointers but that would literally take all day. My advice is to practice first and once you get good then paint your car.

A good paint job is 60% prep work, 10% spraying, and 30% finishing. Anybody can use a spray gun but paying attention to details when prepping then taking the time to wetsand/buff afterward is what turns a decent painter into a funking beautiful paintjob.
airsofter69 12-27-2005 07:09 PM

[QUOTE=killthelights145]amazing job enewtabie. i havnt heard of anyone else on the forums painting thier own wrx. i am young and i think its somthing fun to get into, and over time somthing i can use to save some money.[/QUOTE]

Well i happen to be painting my front and rear bumpers on my 2002 wrx. Also im painting my grille and wheels electric metallic lime green with pearl in it. Pretty crazy color ill post pics when i finnally get down.
AirForge 12-27-2005 08:05 PM

russd32 is right on the money with the test panel idea. It will help you a ton.
killthelights145 01-02-2006 10:38 AM

getting pannels today to practice painting, also picking up primer to practice. gun should be coming in soon. Devlibiss finishline :D
Rokkit 01-02-2006 10:43 AM

Killthelights,

You are in Pitt right? - Im actually repainting my friends WRX and have been repainting a LOT of stuff for rex's. If you would like to hang around and help me out OR ask me questions let me know. Send me a PM or email at [email][email�protected][/email]. Im in CT so i dont know if you wanna make the drive, but im open to help and map out what you need and what you need to do! :)

Dont listen to these guys who say take it to a professional... they dont understand our urge to learn new trade skills. (or have WAYYYY too much money haha)

Thanks,
Mike

Btw, Dont practice with subaru primer... its expensive :)
ChgoJay 01-03-2006 02:28 AM

I painted cars for about 2 years at a body shop. Its not hard work, you just need the right equipment and a lot of knowledge. I would never paint a car in just a garage. See if you can find a shop with a downdraft paint booth that will let you rent it out for an hour so you can clear it and bake it. Your not really gonna save any money by learning how to paint unless you make it your part-time job. You really need to read up because there is alot to know about painting. You say your going to paint a fender and blend the door. First you need to edge the fender before you put it on the car. Your should get yourself some self etching primer. Spray the part of the fender that goes under the hood and by the door jamb. Let that dry then you can put a base coat of color on it. Let it dry then you could throw a couple coats of clear on it. Make sure you read up on the diffrent kinds of reducers for clear. You use different kinds of reducers for different outside temperatures. Ok im tired and going to sleep maybe I will ramble on some more tomorrow.
Rokkit 01-03-2006 08:47 AM

An alternitive for a spray booth would be to modify and build your own.

What I did was this:

(i worked at a marina so i had an advantage)
Gain access to some extra shrink wrap (usually free at marinas)
Take a one bay garage and wrap the a nice box inclosed on 4 sides.
Box off an open window
Set up fan at a point that it will give you cross ventilation, but not something that will suck all your paint away from the car
Wet the floor, sweep, wet, sweep, wet, sweep.... like 10X times
Let sit, Bring car in, do your thing

(make sure all heat sources (if painting in a cold area) are tuned off at the time of spraying... or you will become a big torch, hehe)
WReXer 01-06-2006 09:32 PM

Wow!

There's SOME good info in here, however, nothing beats experience.

A good painter has several years of experience before he can be considered a "painter". It all depends on what you want.

A very simple fact comes to mind. Spray pant (non-activated single stage) will last about a month before it looks like ****. Single stage about two. Wax or no wax. Polish or not. Basecoat clearcoat IS the factory finish. The realistic part is you can't buy this from SOA, you must get it from a MAJOR paint manufacturer (PPG, DuPont, ICI, Sikkens, Etc)

When you pay "the Money" you should get a coat that will last longer than the orignal one on the car. It won't rubb off when you go to wax it or when you wipe it down with solvent.

I guess it all depends on what you want, and how big of a job your doing.
killthelights145 03-11-2006 09:19 PM

well im back and im done painting

ill post pics tomorow

:D
killthelights145 03-12-2006 08:46 AM

[IMG]http://i2.tinypic.com/r9ekna.jpg[/IMG]
this is what happened, a girl hit me, and there was a huge dent, so i used some body hammers to get the dent back out and primmed it white
[IMG]http://i2.tinypic.com/r9ekxv.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.tinypic.com/r9el46.jpg[/IMG]
here is the fender with base coat
[IMG]http://i2.tinypic.com/r9elc7.jpg[/IMG]



ill post some high quality pics when its all done,

im about to do clear coat and harder in 5 min so ill post some nice pics with it on the car
pag_21083 03-12-2006 09:25 AM

i always wanted to learn how to paint car parts
Subyslacker 03-12-2006 09:56 AM

Water filters
Make sure you have good water filters. get one of the ones the connect right before your gun!! For first timers get a sandable primer , don't let them talk you into the non sandlable kind!

A little to late I see LOL
killthelights145 03-12-2006 10:26 AM

i have water filters i aint dat dum :D

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