| negrobello | 10-25-2006 11:14 PM |
I want to start racing but need guidance!!!-
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Well, here it is guys and gals,,,.. I have always been crazy about speed and had a couple of fast cars along the way,,, there was the saleen mustang v6 that used to get killed by cobras left and right... there was a modified mazda rx7 old school.. very fun car.. Now i'm married with two kids and have had family type cars UNTIL NNNOOOWW...
I was selfish a little this time and needed a car so I bought my-self a subaru sti... what a rocket... I've been taking on anything that sits beside me at a light or highway,,, have not had too much competition exept for a vette that kept up with me on 680.... I've taking my little sti up to 140 and just had a small chance to look in the rear view to see my mustang rousch competitor far behind.. So anyways,,, I would love to start racing anything on a real type race track... I live in San Jose California and am craving more speed. Does anyone know anywhere to get started or whom to contact.. I would really appreciate it.. I too have plans to modify my already descently fast ride.. Need an alarm first,, so this week im getting a skytrack installed in mine.. Basically it won't have a chance to get stolen, and if it does,, I will get it back very soon... it should be fun as well.. ANYWAYS,, PLEASE HELP IF YOU CAN,,, ANY INPUT WOULD BE HELPFUL... SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED...
THANKS...
I was selfish a little this time and needed a car so I bought my-self a subaru sti... what a rocket... I've been taking on anything that sits beside me at a light or highway,,, have not had too much competition exept for a vette that kept up with me on 680.... I've taking my little sti up to 140 and just had a small chance to look in the rear view to see my mustang rousch competitor far behind.. So anyways,,, I would love to start racing anything on a real type race track... I live in San Jose California and am craving more speed. Does anyone know anywhere to get started or whom to contact.. I would really appreciate it.. I too have plans to modify my already descently fast ride.. Need an alarm first,, so this week im getting a skytrack installed in mine.. Basically it won't have a chance to get stolen, and if it does,, I will get it back very soon... it should be fun as well.. ANYWAYS,, PLEASE HELP IF YOU CAN,,, ANY INPUT WOULD BE HELPFUL... SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED...
THANKS...
| RBelcher00 | 10-25-2006 11:18 PM |
Uh oh...
| DiscoWagon | 10-25-2006 11:20 PM |
Youre not very mature or responsible are you?
| XenoWolf | 10-25-2006 11:50 PM |
Wait, did I click on 'General Community' by accident?
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| SMUwrx34 | 10-25-2006 11:53 PM |
Wow, speaking off speed, are you on speed?
| negrobello | 10-25-2006 11:53 PM |
of course i am
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:banana: very much mature.... I would just like to join a type of racing (amateur) circuit... what is so inmature about that?
| redrex2002 | 10-25-2006 11:55 PM |
dude first of all get redy for the flamming to begin once moourning starts but other wise search around there are plenty of drag or road course tracks around calli you need to find out if you want responsiveness and a good handeling car for road courses or an all out high rev built boosted and sprayed drag car that will kill you if you try to drive to work start looking around and see what u like and search before you post new topics there is more than enough info on here to keep annyone busy for a long time
| negrobello | 10-26-2006 12:02 AM |
Thanks for the input .....
I have been and are continuing to look through these forums and postings,, Gots to have moe speed maaan...
I have been and are continuing to look through these forums and postings,, Gots to have moe speed maaan...
| DinoGuan | 10-26-2006 12:05 AM |
get a helmet, go auto x, go hpde(trackday)
I dont know SanJose so I can't really point u in the exact direction, but your local clubs should.
And my god walk before run, walk before run.
I dont know SanJose so I can't really point u in the exact direction, but your local clubs should.
And my god walk before run, walk before run.
| patrick smith | 10-26-2006 12:14 AM |
probly the best place to start is scca autox events, lots of good practice, cheap, safe. Then maybe head to laguna seca because you are close ( lucky bastard ) and try to join in on local club track days. then after many months/years of seat time, and lots of money in parts and tires, maybe join the scca touring car or like events, if you win the lotto. also try sears point raceway, maybe head down south to buttonwillow raceway, or real south to willow springs raceway. lots of track and lots of clubs do track events, and some do real wheel to wheel racing.
opentrack.com,
[url]www.trackdaz.com[/url],
[url]www.cocoaoc.org[/url],
[url]www.touringcarclub.com[/url],
[url]www.porscheownersclub.org[/url],
[url]http://www.buttonwillowraceway.com/[/url],
Redline Track Events ,
Speed Trial USA ,
Speed Ventures
etc etc etc
opentrack.com,
[url]www.trackdaz.com[/url],
[url]www.cocoaoc.org[/url],
[url]www.touringcarclub.com[/url],
[url]www.porscheownersclub.org[/url],
[url]http://www.buttonwillowraceway.com/[/url],
Redline Track Events ,
Speed Trial USA ,
Speed Ventures
etc etc etc
| Prelude Gundam | 10-26-2006 12:23 AM |
[IMG]http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1962/mrsanjosestreetracerha3.png[/IMG]
| tuskenraider | 10-26-2006 12:23 AM |
Please don't watch anymore 2Fast2Furious before posting.............
| negrobello | 10-26-2006 12:32 AM |
That is great information and great links.. i have also looked at russell's school of racing and it sounds interesting too. I appreciate all the info everyone... 2 fast 2 furious.. drifting,, it's all about drifting..
Need to go faster... faster.. fasssttrrr
Need to go faster... faster.. fasssttrrr
| Subie Gal | 10-26-2006 12:38 AM |
[QUOTE=negrobello;15752981]That is great information and great links.. i have also looked at russell's school of racing and it sounds interesting too. I appreciate all the info everyone... 2 fast 2 furious.. drifting,, it's all about drifting..
Need to go faster... faster.. fasssttrrr[/QUOTE]
you... need less caffeine i think :eek: :lol:
Need to go faster... faster.. fasssttrrr[/QUOTE]
you... need less caffeine i think :eek: :lol:
| The Blue Pilot | 10-26-2006 12:40 AM |
Troll...**** and die...in a fire.....
| SoutFL_9-2x | 10-26-2006 12:44 AM |
[QUOTE=negrobello;15752071]Well, here it is guys and gals,,,.. I have always been crazy about speed and had a couple of fast cars along the way,,, there was the saleen mustang v6 that used to get killed by cobras left and right... there was a modified mazda rx7 old school.. very fun car.. Now i'm married with two kids and have had family type cars UNTIL NNNOOOWW...
I was selfish a little this time and needed a car so I bought my-self a subaru sti... what a rocket... I've been taking on anything that sits beside me at a light or highway,,, have not had too much competition exept for a vette that kept up with me on 680.... I've taking my little sti up to 140 and just had a small chance to look in the rear view to see my mustang rousch competitor far behind.. So anyways,,, I would love to start racing anything on a real type race track... I live in San Jose California and am craving more speed. Does anyone know anywhere to get started or whom to contact.. I would really appreciate it.. I too have plans to modify my already descently fast ride.. Need an alarm first,, so this week im getting a skytrack installed in mine.. Basically it won't have a chance to get stolen, and if it does,, I will get it back very soon... it should be fun as well.. ANYWAYS,, PLEASE HELP IF YOU CAN,,, ANY INPUT WOULD BE HELPFUL... SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED...
THANKS...[/QUOTE]
1) Reality check: your STi (if stock) is a relatively slow car in the circles of people who race in a straight line (legit or not).
2) If you plan to race competitively on a road course, purchase a track car, as your precious STi will be involved in some sort of contact or incident, and the necessary safety equipment needed for the track will actually make it a dangerous car to use on the street for commuting (skull on roll cage = trauma).
3) Have money. Lots of it. Just getting licensed alone will go through a good chunk of change (especially if you're going the arrive and drive race school route).
4) Look into nasaproracing.com for their local HPDE shedule, so you can get a taste of what being on a roadcourse is like.
I was selfish a little this time and needed a car so I bought my-self a subaru sti... what a rocket... I've been taking on anything that sits beside me at a light or highway,,, have not had too much competition exept for a vette that kept up with me on 680.... I've taking my little sti up to 140 and just had a small chance to look in the rear view to see my mustang rousch competitor far behind.. So anyways,,, I would love to start racing anything on a real type race track... I live in San Jose California and am craving more speed. Does anyone know anywhere to get started or whom to contact.. I would really appreciate it.. I too have plans to modify my already descently fast ride.. Need an alarm first,, so this week im getting a skytrack installed in mine.. Basically it won't have a chance to get stolen, and if it does,, I will get it back very soon... it should be fun as well.. ANYWAYS,, PLEASE HELP IF YOU CAN,,, ANY INPUT WOULD BE HELPFUL... SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED...
THANKS...[/QUOTE]
1) Reality check: your STi (if stock) is a relatively slow car in the circles of people who race in a straight line (legit or not).
2) If you plan to race competitively on a road course, purchase a track car, as your precious STi will be involved in some sort of contact or incident, and the necessary safety equipment needed for the track will actually make it a dangerous car to use on the street for commuting (skull on roll cage = trauma).
3) Have money. Lots of it. Just getting licensed alone will go through a good chunk of change (especially if you're going the arrive and drive race school route).
4) Look into nasaproracing.com for their local HPDE shedule, so you can get a taste of what being on a roadcourse is like.
| SMUwrx34 | 10-26-2006 12:46 AM |
PM ryanpietro for any and all information you need. He is very helpful and live close to you.
| flyboymike | 10-26-2006 01:03 AM |
And please, use good operational risk management and don't screw around on the streets, at least for your kids' sakes.
| Jack A | 10-26-2006 02:01 AM |
There is an SCCA race at Laguna Seca this weekend. If you are interested in roadracing this would be a good event to attend. I will be in the #26 spec miata (group 7) if you want to talk. If you are really interested in roadracing there are several people that rent cars, normally in the $1200 per weekend range. If you are interested in autocrossing SCCA has a good program, check out [url]http://www.sfrscca.org/solo2/[/url] . If you want to drive your car on a racetrack there are many groups you can run with, but [url]www.nasaproracing.com[/url] has a good combination of racing and open track events.
Jack
Jack
| XenoWolf | 10-26-2006 09:44 AM |
[QUOTE=SMUwrx34;15753125]PM ryanpietro for any and all information you need. He is very helpful and live close to you.[/QUOTE]
:lol: I really need to find out more about this Ryan Pietro gent.
:lol: I really need to find out more about this Ryan Pietro gent.
| Butt Dyno | 10-26-2006 10:27 AM |
[QUOTE=XenoWolf;15752530]Wait, did I click on 'General Community' by accident?
... *checks* ...
:([/QUOTE]No, this is the NASIOC "Kill Stories" forum.
... *checks* ...
:([/QUOTE]No, this is the NASIOC "Kill Stories" forum.
| speednby | 10-26-2006 10:49 AM |
[QUOTE=redrex2002;15752581]dude first of all get redy for the flamming to begin once moourning starts but other wise search around there are plenty of drag or road course tracks around calli you need to find out if you want responsiveness and a good handeling car for road courses or an all out high rev built boosted and sprayed drag car that will kill you if you try to drive to work start looking around and see what u like and search before you post new topics there is more than enough info on here to keep annyone busy for a long time[/QUOTE]
:huh:
Dude, there are three buttons to the right of the "M" on your keyboard. Next time you're feeling a little adventurous, you might want to try them out...
:huh:
Dude, there are three buttons to the right of the "M" on your keyboard. Next time you're feeling a little adventurous, you might want to try them out...
| DrBiggly | 10-26-2006 11:04 AM |
[QUOTE=ButtDyno;15756124]No, this is the NASIOC "Kill Stories" forum.[/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol:
-Biggly
:lol: :lol:
-Biggly
| WRXedUSA | 10-26-2006 11:40 AM |
[size=7] Buenos Dias[/size]
[IMG]http://www.sfgate.com/n/pictures/2005/01/26/vikings1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.sfgate.com/n/pictures/2005/01/26/vikings1.jpg[/IMG]
| TyrannoSullyRex | 10-26-2006 11:45 AM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA;15757085][size=7] Buenos Dias[/size]
[IMG]http://www.sfgate.com/n/pictures/2005/01/26/vikings1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I've never seen that pic without the "Welcome to OT" bit attached.
Oh, and street racing is for sucks.
[IMG]http://www.sfgate.com/n/pictures/2005/01/26/vikings1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I've never seen that pic without the "Welcome to OT" bit attached.
Oh, and street racing is for sucks.
| Virrdog | 10-26-2006 05:16 PM |
Check out open lap days at road-racing tracks near you. Go to one that offers instruction. Doing a day on a road course with no instruction just reinforces bad habits. You learn nothing and get a thrill out of almost totalling your car instead of learning to control it.
Go ahead and buy the helmet. You'll need it. You want "SA" (i think) and not "M" (for motorcycle) type helmet.
Go ahead and buy the helmet. You'll need it. You want "SA" (i think) and not "M" (for motorcycle) type helmet.
| mykrrrr | 10-26-2006 06:02 PM |
[QUOTE=negrobello;15752566]:banana: very much mature.... I would just like to join a type of racing (amateur) circuit... what is so inmature about that?[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.topskills.com/img/GrammarCover200x300.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.topskills.com/img/GrammarCover200x300.jpg[/img]
| negrobello | 10-27-2006 01:29 AM |
checking out the sites now... can't wait to get started.. everyone thanks for the positive as well as the negative info... all info and comments are welcomed... I might take a trip out there with the family to check out some racing,,, see if my wifa,, whom loves speed more than me likes it as well.. who knows maybe we'll put a competitive car together with baby seats so we can make it a real family type race... what cha think ???
speed speeed,, moe speed...
j.k. about the baby seats,, but seriously i will probably be out there this weekend...
speed speeed,, moe speed...
j.k. about the baby seats,, but seriously i will probably be out there this weekend...
| negrobello | 10-27-2006 01:29 AM |
:banana: checking out the sites now... can't wait to get started.. everyone thanks for the positive as well as the negative info... all info and comments are welcomed... I might take a trip out there with the family to check out some racing,,, see if my wifa,, whom loves speed more than me likes it as well.. who knows maybe we'll put a competitive car together with baby seats so we can make it a real family type race... what cha think ???
speed speeed,, moe speed...
j.k. about the baby seats,, but seriously i will probably be out there this weekend...
speed speeed,, moe speed...
j.k. about the baby seats,, but seriously i will probably be out there this weekend...
| akuhner | 10-27-2006 09:33 AM |
[QUOTE=negrobello;15767573]speed speeed,, moe speed... [/QUOTE]
Good god, please stop saying that! You come off like a complete moron...
Racing is not all about speed, speeed and moe speed. Racing is about control, finesse, precision and skill. Horsepower helps, eventually, but it will actually hinder your learning curve because you'll think you are fast when you are really hacking the corners and making up time on the straights. Any idiot can use a gas pedal.
My rally car was dyno'ed at 72hp to the wheels. I could still beat you in your STI at a rally cross, and at a stage rally I'd beat you by attrition - "speed, speeed,, moe speed" would put you into a tree on the first stage.
And please, if you are going to race on the street, please be sure to die alone without taking out any innocent people on your way out.
Good god, please stop saying that! You come off like a complete moron...
Racing is not all about speed, speeed and moe speed. Racing is about control, finesse, precision and skill. Horsepower helps, eventually, but it will actually hinder your learning curve because you'll think you are fast when you are really hacking the corners and making up time on the straights. Any idiot can use a gas pedal.
My rally car was dyno'ed at 72hp to the wheels. I could still beat you in your STI at a rally cross, and at a stage rally I'd beat you by attrition - "speed, speeed,, moe speed" would put you into a tree on the first stage.
And please, if you are going to race on the street, please be sure to die alone without taking out any innocent people on your way out.
| AruisDante | 10-27-2006 09:46 AM |
I don't see why people are flaming him about the street stuff.... that's the whole point of this thread, he's trying to take it to a track and off the streets. We should be praising him, and wishing that more people followed his example.
As for how to get started.... Go to driving school. It will make you faster then ANY bolt on will. Skip Barber and Bonderaunt racing schools are both reasonably close to you, and will teach you worlds of things that will help you far more then power will. Also, to get a compatition license you'll need to attend certain events anyway, and racing school counts as one of those events.
Next, join the SCCA (actually, do this first). Since it's pretty much the FIA of the US, it runs almost all sanctioned racing the the US, except for Rally (which it dropped this year). Once you're in the SCCA, you'll be able to find out when actual, sanctioned events are happening in your area.
As for how to get started.... Go to driving school. It will make you faster then ANY bolt on will. Skip Barber and Bonderaunt racing schools are both reasonably close to you, and will teach you worlds of things that will help you far more then power will. Also, to get a compatition license you'll need to attend certain events anyway, and racing school counts as one of those events.
Next, join the SCCA (actually, do this first). Since it's pretty much the FIA of the US, it runs almost all sanctioned racing the the US, except for Rally (which it dropped this year). Once you're in the SCCA, you'll be able to find out when actual, sanctioned events are happening in your area.
| WRXedUSA | 10-27-2006 09:53 AM |
Looks like Subaru hit thier target market.
| Butt Dyno | 10-27-2006 10:37 AM |
[QUOTE=AruisDante;15769903]I don't see why people are flaming him about the street stuff.... that's the whole point of this thread, he's [color=red]trying[/color] to take it to a track and off the streets. We should be praising him, and wishing that more people followed his example.[/quote]
"Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try."
"Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try."
| Yotsuya | 10-27-2006 10:43 AM |
1. Sell the Subaru
Use the money to buy an old Miata, race tires, and a dozen or so track days. Talk to other people, ride along with them, and if they're willing drive them around and listen to thier advice. You should also have enough cash left over for a driving program like Skip Barber if you want.
Use the money to buy an old Miata, race tires, and a dozen or so track days. Talk to other people, ride along with them, and if they're willing drive them around and listen to thier advice. You should also have enough cash left over for a driving program like Skip Barber if you want.
| Butt Dyno | 10-27-2006 10:44 AM |
[QUOTE=Yotsuya;15770549]1. Sell the Subaru
Use the money to buy an old Miata, race tires, and a dozen or so track days. Talk to other people, ride along with them, and if they're willing drive them around and listen to thier advice. You should also have enough cash left over for a driving program like Skip Barber if you want.[/QUOTE]
^- Yeah. Try to find a local Spec Miata racer/instructor to give you a ride at a track event. You won't look at 116 hp the same way after that :)
Use the money to buy an old Miata, race tires, and a dozen or so track days. Talk to other people, ride along with them, and if they're willing drive them around and listen to thier advice. You should also have enough cash left over for a driving program like Skip Barber if you want.[/QUOTE]
^- Yeah. Try to find a local Spec Miata racer/instructor to give you a ride at a track event. You won't look at 116 hp the same way after that :)
| crystalhelix | 10-27-2006 11:25 AM |
wow, I am amazed this thread hasn't been moved yet, no other comment other than immature doesn't have a N in it...
| DuckStu | 10-27-2006 11:29 AM |
What are all the bone-heads thinking in this thread when they rip this guy for being imature when he's asking about getting his car on the track? That's the MOST mature thing a guy looking to go fast can do.
I started out with a 125 shifter kart. So everything since then has felt tame by comparison, but a couple years ago I took a 1 day driving school with the local Porsche club at a local track and had a blast. I learned a lot too. Since then I have done 3 more 1 days and a 2 day with the local BMW club. (I had a 325 BMW with track tires and brake pads).
Almost 2 years ago I was able to take a 3 day open wheel racing school at Laguna Seca with Skip Barber. It was expensive but fun. They have a 1 day car control clinic that I really wanted to do. They start off in Dakotas on a wet track and learn drifting. Not so much for drifting sake, but more for larning how to control slides. Then they move to Neon R/T's and do manuvers and autocross. Then they move into Vipers and do autocross. By the end of the day they are doing the autocrosss track with the tail end of the Vipers lit up for better than 1/2 the track, only straightening up the tail end before braking into the turns.
The 3 day class is the sort of thing you will have to complete BEFORE you can apply for an SCCA racing liscence. After doing a 3 day school with Derek Daily (in Vegas) or Skip Barber, or Bob Bondurant (Arizona) (and possibly others) you can then apply for the liscence, which costs $200. You then have to complete 2 races each year to keep it current. The Skip Barber 3 day class I took was 3 grand, plus travel, rental car etc. So it's not cheap by any means. You then need to make your car comply with the regs of each class. You may find that your car only fits into one or two classes and they alow lots of mods that you don't want to do to your street car. Contact the SCCA and ask those kinds of questions.
The cheapest way by far to go racing is in the Spec Miata class. You can buy a 1993 Miata for 4 grand and do the allowed mods for another 4-5 grand, or you can get one already done from someone for 8-9 grand. Used is actually a steal. You might find you burn up 10 race days getting you car through teck inspection, finding the things that break, and finding a fast setup. With a used one you just do the normal maintainance, show up and drive. Often the last guy had lost of extras too, like timers, camera mounts, extra safety stuff, spare rims, etc
If all that is too pricey for you,....you don't want to go racing. (As they say, the fatsest way to become a milionaire in racing is to start off a multi-milionaire) Try the 1 day driving schools with local car clubs and then look for open track days. You can go out on the track with someone else and play follow the leader etc. Look on each tracks' schedule and try to find the days when the track has been reserved for some club or other and then contact that club. 1 day driving schools are often about $125 a day. Track days are about the same usually. You'll want to complete 3-5 driving schools before most open track day promoters will be comfortable letting you out with them. No one wants a rookie crashing into them.
The MOST important thing you will need is a great set of track brake pads. Try Pagid Blue's. Track tires are next. I love the Yokohama A032R's I have for the Beemer. They are very forgiving unlike some, and they are hard enough to drive on the street, which means you can put them on the night before with your brake pads and drive to the track. Flush the brakes also with a good high temp fluid. Valvoline Synth in the gold bottle at the autoparts store at a minimum. ATE Superblue and the Castrol ones are even higher temp but are very hydroscopic, so they require you to flush the brakes at least every year. You should do it before every track day anyway. A CG-Lock is a great addition too.
The cheapest set of track wheels and tires I see on Tire rack is some ASA wheels and Kumho Victor racers. The victors are great track tires, but they do not last long. You'd want to install them at the track.
Good track pads will run $160 an axle, and the fronts will be good for 4 1 day driving schools or 1.5 to 2 open track days. The rears will last twice as long at least.
The Yoko tires I have have 6 track days on them and probably are good for another 4.
So $850 for tires div by 10 = $80 a day for tires.
$160 for ft pads div by 3 = $53 (x 1.5 to acct for rears) = $80 a day in pads.
$125 entrnce fee gives us a grand total of $285 a day plus gas, time off work, brake fluid plus buying the rims etc. That's about as cheap as you can get.
Have fun.
I started out with a 125 shifter kart. So everything since then has felt tame by comparison, but a couple years ago I took a 1 day driving school with the local Porsche club at a local track and had a blast. I learned a lot too. Since then I have done 3 more 1 days and a 2 day with the local BMW club. (I had a 325 BMW with track tires and brake pads).
Almost 2 years ago I was able to take a 3 day open wheel racing school at Laguna Seca with Skip Barber. It was expensive but fun. They have a 1 day car control clinic that I really wanted to do. They start off in Dakotas on a wet track and learn drifting. Not so much for drifting sake, but more for larning how to control slides. Then they move to Neon R/T's and do manuvers and autocross. Then they move into Vipers and do autocross. By the end of the day they are doing the autocrosss track with the tail end of the Vipers lit up for better than 1/2 the track, only straightening up the tail end before braking into the turns.
The 3 day class is the sort of thing you will have to complete BEFORE you can apply for an SCCA racing liscence. After doing a 3 day school with Derek Daily (in Vegas) or Skip Barber, or Bob Bondurant (Arizona) (and possibly others) you can then apply for the liscence, which costs $200. You then have to complete 2 races each year to keep it current. The Skip Barber 3 day class I took was 3 grand, plus travel, rental car etc. So it's not cheap by any means. You then need to make your car comply with the regs of each class. You may find that your car only fits into one or two classes and they alow lots of mods that you don't want to do to your street car. Contact the SCCA and ask those kinds of questions.
The cheapest way by far to go racing is in the Spec Miata class. You can buy a 1993 Miata for 4 grand and do the allowed mods for another 4-5 grand, or you can get one already done from someone for 8-9 grand. Used is actually a steal. You might find you burn up 10 race days getting you car through teck inspection, finding the things that break, and finding a fast setup. With a used one you just do the normal maintainance, show up and drive. Often the last guy had lost of extras too, like timers, camera mounts, extra safety stuff, spare rims, etc
If all that is too pricey for you,....you don't want to go racing. (As they say, the fatsest way to become a milionaire in racing is to start off a multi-milionaire) Try the 1 day driving schools with local car clubs and then look for open track days. You can go out on the track with someone else and play follow the leader etc. Look on each tracks' schedule and try to find the days when the track has been reserved for some club or other and then contact that club. 1 day driving schools are often about $125 a day. Track days are about the same usually. You'll want to complete 3-5 driving schools before most open track day promoters will be comfortable letting you out with them. No one wants a rookie crashing into them.
The MOST important thing you will need is a great set of track brake pads. Try Pagid Blue's. Track tires are next. I love the Yokohama A032R's I have for the Beemer. They are very forgiving unlike some, and they are hard enough to drive on the street, which means you can put them on the night before with your brake pads and drive to the track. Flush the brakes also with a good high temp fluid. Valvoline Synth in the gold bottle at the autoparts store at a minimum. ATE Superblue and the Castrol ones are even higher temp but are very hydroscopic, so they require you to flush the brakes at least every year. You should do it before every track day anyway. A CG-Lock is a great addition too.
The cheapest set of track wheels and tires I see on Tire rack is some ASA wheels and Kumho Victor racers. The victors are great track tires, but they do not last long. You'd want to install them at the track.
Good track pads will run $160 an axle, and the fronts will be good for 4 1 day driving schools or 1.5 to 2 open track days. The rears will last twice as long at least.
The Yoko tires I have have 6 track days on them and probably are good for another 4.
So $850 for tires div by 10 = $80 a day for tires.
$160 for ft pads div by 3 = $53 (x 1.5 to acct for rears) = $80 a day in pads.
$125 entrnce fee gives us a grand total of $285 a day plus gas, time off work, brake fluid plus buying the rims etc. That's about as cheap as you can get.
Have fun.
| SoutFL_9-2x | 10-27-2006 12:04 PM |
NASA's BMW E30 spec is actually cheaper than running spec Miata.
| AruisDante | 10-27-2006 12:21 PM |
Yeah.... Racing is probably one of the most expencive sports on the planet.
Look at it this way.... the entier development, tooling, and production run of the Veryon cost less then 1 year of F1 racing.
You can obviously race amature for a reasonable budget, but it's still going to be a hole in your wallet because there's little or no prize money, and stuff will brake, you'll be replacing tires and brake pads a lot, and all of the other misc. things that will drain away from you.
There is a reason why even a lot of amature racers have to have sponsors.
Look at it this way.... the entier development, tooling, and production run of the Veryon cost less then 1 year of F1 racing.
You can obviously race amature for a reasonable budget, but it's still going to be a hole in your wallet because there's little or no prize money, and stuff will brake, you'll be replacing tires and brake pads a lot, and all of the other misc. things that will drain away from you.
There is a reason why even a lot of amature racers have to have sponsors.
| mykrrrr | 10-27-2006 01:58 PM |
[QUOTE=Subie Gal;15753037]you... need less caffeine i think :eek: :lol:[/QUOTE]
bArn him????
:lol:
bArn him????
:lol:
| SkylineR35GTRx | 11-01-2006 05:27 PM |
Hey man, go over to [url]www.i-club.com[/url] because most guys ar from the bay area and they can help you out without the attitude. Check out [url]www.nasaproracing.com[/url] for their upcoming track days. Tracks around San Jose are Infineon in Sonoma, north bay, Laguna Seca in Monterery in the south pass Santa Cruz, Thunderhill 1 hour north of Sacramento, and I thikn Buttonwillow is kinda far like 2 hours away from LA. There's an upcoming track day in Thunderhill hosted by NASA for 150 for the day. You should definitely do that one. Check out their website and they'll have more information. There will be post on i-club when upcoming track days are around. If you want to race semi seriously, you need to get atleast minimum coilovers, better tires, rotor/caliper/brake pads, and power wise the STi is good enough. You should give it a shot and see how much you like it, like the others haev said, racing is a VERY expensive sport. If 150 a day for the track is too much, then check out autoxing, although 30 dollars for like 3 mins worth of runs...I don't know if it's too worth it. Basically they take place in large parking lots and set up coned courses and each run is like a minute or two. I thikn it's around 70 for yearly membership and 30 per event. They take place in the Marina Airport near Monterey (i tihkn), candle stick park in SF, golden gate fields near berkeley, and I thikn a few around the bay area. check you [url]www.scca.com[/url], and [url]http://www.sfrscca.org/index.phtml[/url] for the SF region. PM me if you have any questions, and head over to the "other" forum. Not as much hate, I don't know what's up with the people here, but this is a legitimate question. Also, searching can be tedious and hard, but get use to it, and if you don't find anything, then ask. Have a nice day.
| ptclaus98 | 11-01-2006 07:46 PM |
[QUOTE=XenoWolf;15755660]:lol: I really need to find out more about this Ryan Pietro gent.[/QUOTE]
No. No you don't
You will be smarter for doing so.
No. No you don't
You will be smarter for doing so.
| davis10 | 11-01-2006 11:37 PM |
umm it seems like your into drag racing from what you do on the street ... in that case sell the STI and get a drag car. If drag racing isn't what you want go a do some rallycross/autocross.
and take it down a few notches I have never read a post that was more crazy, energetic, and hectic then that one.
and take it down a few notches I have never read a post that was more crazy, energetic, and hectic then that one.
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