| OnTheGas | 07-18-2002 02:10 AM |
le Grand Prix de France de Formule 1
Bonjour et bienvenue au pick 6 de le Grand Prix de la France de la Formule 1 chez Nevers-Magny-Cours!
I confess that french is beyond my grasp, so whatever I wrote is likely to be absurd!
But it is time for the French GP...[list=1][*][b]Michael[/b] - he will earn this victory[*][b]Rubens[/b] - almost always a bridesmaid[*][b]Juan[/b] - will chase hard the red cars![*][b]Ralf[/b] - chasing the podium[*][b]Kimi[/b] - will make Ralf sweat[*][b]David[/b] - will be unlucky[/list]
I confess that french is beyond my grasp, so whatever I wrote is likely to be absurd!
But it is time for the French GP...[list=1][*][b]Michael[/b] - he will earn this victory[*][b]Rubens[/b] - almost always a bridesmaid[*][b]Juan[/b] - will chase hard the red cars![*][b]Ralf[/b] - chasing the podium[*][b]Kimi[/b] - will make Ralf sweat[*][b]David[/b] - will be unlucky[/list]
| gtguy | 07-18-2002 03:08 AM |
Les superieur six (j'espere...) Presqu', je say la meme chose a Silverstone, mais Magny-Cours...c'est difficile, je pense. De toute facon, mes choix sont:
1) MS
2) RB
3) Ralf (resurgent)
4) DC
5) Kimi
6) JPM
Kevin
1) MS
2) RB
3) Ralf (resurgent)
4) DC
5) Kimi
6) JPM
Kevin
| Jonathan | 07-18-2002 05:13 AM |
While no doubt Micheal is capable of taking France, he has his heart set on winning the WDC in Germany. If he wins in France I believe he automatically takes the championship (reaches the point where nobody can beat him, even if he takes the rest of the summer off). Therefore look for inspired performances from either Chilli Dog or Rubens, and dont rule out David "CUBE HEAD" Coultard, Kimi, and of course Ralf.
| RollingRex | 07-18-2002 11:09 AM |
Here is my view at the top six
1. MS
2. RB - not too far after MS
3. JPM - looking for another good drive from him
4. DC - mistake free race
5. Ralf - don't know what to expect from him anymore
6. Jenson - will get in the points after Kimi makes a mistake or his engine goes up in smoke
-R-
1. MS
2. RB - not too far after MS
3. JPM - looking for another good drive from him
4. DC - mistake free race
5. Ralf - don't know what to expect from him anymore
6. Jenson - will get in the points after Kimi makes a mistake or his engine goes up in smoke
-R-
| Fred Zaplitny | 07-18-2002 07:00 PM |
Le Dog de'Chili will win!
or something like that.
or something like that.
| Marquis | 07-19-2002 07:27 AM |
[QUOTE]Le Dog de'Chili will win![/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ^^^
Oh, and MS will hose the field.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ^^^
Oh, and MS will hose the field.
| grandpa rex | 07-19-2002 12:38 PM |
I think we're in for a Michelin weekend
1. JPM
2. DC
3. MS
4. Ralfie
5. RB
6. Raikkonen
1. JPM
2. DC
3. MS
4. Ralfie
5. RB
6. Raikkonen
| OnTheGas | 07-19-2002 02:11 PM |
The Cats May Show Up For the 1st Time!
Hello Jaguar!
After the 1st practice session today:
[code]
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Barrichello Ferrari (B) 1:15.056 203.896 km/h 13
2. Coulthard McLaren Mercedes (M) 1:15.099 + 0.043 14
3. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:15.174 + 0.118 18
4. Montoya Williams BMW (M) 1:15.271 + 0.215 19
5. R.Schumacher Williams BMW (M) 1:15.481 + 0.425 20
6. Raikkonen McLaren Mercedes (M) 1:15.525 + 0.469 14
7. Button Renault (M) 1:15.869 + 0.813 14
8. Irvine Jaguar Cosworth (M) 1:16.366 + 1.310 15
9. de la Rosa Jaguar Cosworth (M) 1:16.423 + 1.367 18
10. Sato Jordan Honda (B) 1:16.493 + 1.437 23 [/code]
In the 2nd session, the cats were faster...
[code]Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Coulthard McLaren Mercedes (M) 1:14.025 206.736 km/h 37
2. Raikkonen McLaren Mercedes (M) 1:14.097 + 0.072 39
3. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:14.240 + 0.215 50
4. Barrichello Ferrari (B) 1:14.750 + 0.725 40
5. R.Schumacher Williams BMW (M) 1:14.970 + 0.945 37
6. Irvine Jaguar Cosworth (M) 1:14.983 + 0.958 39
7. Salo Toyota (M) 1:15.161 + 1.136 28
8. de la Rosa Jaguar Cosworth (M) 1:15.179 + 1.154 45 [/code]But afterwards, Niki put things in the proper perspective...[quote]"A pleasing start to our French Grand Prix weekend, but it's way too early to read into anything," said Lauda. "Friday lap times are notoriously deceptive and while our times are pleasing, it is impossible to say where we rank alongside the competition – something we will find out at 1400hrs tomorrow.
"We are running the Cosworth CR-3 engine today and for qualifying and the race, we will use the latest CR4. Neither driver reported any major problem today and all efforts will now be focused on getting the best from this new package which we are still learning about. [/quote]I would hope that they stop fighting w/Mark Weber's Minardi, and instead are able to out qualify & race Frentzen, who has the same cosworth motor in his Arrows, and who has routinely outperformed the green cars... We shall see saturday and sunday!
After the 1st practice session today:
[code]
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Barrichello Ferrari (B) 1:15.056 203.896 km/h 13
2. Coulthard McLaren Mercedes (M) 1:15.099 + 0.043 14
3. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:15.174 + 0.118 18
4. Montoya Williams BMW (M) 1:15.271 + 0.215 19
5. R.Schumacher Williams BMW (M) 1:15.481 + 0.425 20
6. Raikkonen McLaren Mercedes (M) 1:15.525 + 0.469 14
7. Button Renault (M) 1:15.869 + 0.813 14
8. Irvine Jaguar Cosworth (M) 1:16.366 + 1.310 15
9. de la Rosa Jaguar Cosworth (M) 1:16.423 + 1.367 18
10. Sato Jordan Honda (B) 1:16.493 + 1.437 23 [/code]
In the 2nd session, the cats were faster...
[code]Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Coulthard McLaren Mercedes (M) 1:14.025 206.736 km/h 37
2. Raikkonen McLaren Mercedes (M) 1:14.097 + 0.072 39
3. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:14.240 + 0.215 50
4. Barrichello Ferrari (B) 1:14.750 + 0.725 40
5. R.Schumacher Williams BMW (M) 1:14.970 + 0.945 37
6. Irvine Jaguar Cosworth (M) 1:14.983 + 0.958 39
7. Salo Toyota (M) 1:15.161 + 1.136 28
8. de la Rosa Jaguar Cosworth (M) 1:15.179 + 1.154 45 [/code]But afterwards, Niki put things in the proper perspective...[quote]"A pleasing start to our French Grand Prix weekend, but it's way too early to read into anything," said Lauda. "Friday lap times are notoriously deceptive and while our times are pleasing, it is impossible to say where we rank alongside the competition – something we will find out at 1400hrs tomorrow.
"We are running the Cosworth CR-3 engine today and for qualifying and the race, we will use the latest CR4. Neither driver reported any major problem today and all efforts will now be focused on getting the best from this new package which we are still learning about. [/quote]I would hope that they stop fighting w/Mark Weber's Minardi, and instead are able to out qualify & race Frentzen, who has the same cosworth motor in his Arrows, and who has routinely outperformed the green cars... We shall see saturday and sunday!
| StuBeck | 07-19-2002 03:40 PM |
FINALLY Jag does SOMETHING on the track. You know you are having a bad year, when you see your previously bad years as good. As a jag fan I can't wait until next year, I really think they have a good engine and hopefully a good chassis coming up.
| HoRo1 | 07-19-2002 03:40 PM |
I'll bet Niki is happier than Tom Walkinshaw. Minardi is next to go.
Alex Yoong - 4.99 seconds back! Watch out Alex, daddy's going to stop writing those cheques soon. I'm sharpening my knives! :devil:
1995 Formula Asia Malaysian Champion. My dog came second. What a joke.
:lol:
Alex Yoong - 4.99 seconds back! Watch out Alex, daddy's going to stop writing those cheques soon. I'm sharpening my knives! :devil:
1995 Formula Asia Malaysian Champion. My dog came second. What a joke.
:lol:
| AndyRoo | 07-19-2002 04:40 PM |
Schumi only get the championship if he gets 1st and Barrichello and Montoya dont place very high. I think.
Anywho, he wants to win in Germany and I think he will make it so.
1. Coulthard
2. Schumi
3. Barrichello
4. Kimi
5. JPM
Kinda random I know...
Anywho, he wants to win in Germany and I think he will make it so.
1. Coulthard
2. Schumi
3. Barrichello
4. Kimi
5. JPM
Kinda random I know...
| OAKOS Automotive | 07-19-2002 10:37 PM |
Sixth in Friday practice is nice but a 1:14.9 would only have placed Eddie 14th on last years starting grid. I think Ford should replace Lauda. In my very limited observation he doesn't seem to be able to work with his team in an effective enough manner. Jackie and Paul Stewart had better success in the teams fledgling years with a pole and a win in '99 and many other strong showings.
Any guesses on tomorrows pole time?
1:11.989
-Dave
:)
Any guesses on tomorrows pole time?
1:11.989
-Dave
:)
| Fred Zaplitny | 07-19-2002 10:45 PM |
Niki Lauda needs to be replaced for sure. Rahal would have done better had he been given the chance. Too bad the idiot squeezed him out like he did. I don't know who is more stupid; Ford or Lauda.
BTW: who cares who wins in France or anywhere else this season. It's a lost cause, the German is going to win it all again. All because Ferrari cheats!
BTW: who cares who wins in France or anywhere else this season. It's a lost cause, the German is going to win it all again. All because Ferrari cheats!
| Leonardo | 07-20-2002 08:04 AM |
Montoya got pole AGAIN!!!!!
Go Juan Pablo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Leo
Go Juan Pablo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Leo
| RollingRex | 07-20-2002 10:08 AM |
[QUOTE]Any guesses on tomorrows pole time?
1:11.989[/QUOTE]
Wow, Dave you got pretty close, Montoyas pole time was 1:11.985
-R-
1:11.989[/QUOTE]
Wow, Dave you got pretty close, Montoyas pole time was 1:11.985
-R-
| OnTheGas | 07-20-2002 11:11 AM |
Un, Deux, Trois, Quatre, Cinq Poles for le Dog de Chili!
Five poles in a row for Juan!!! Woohoo!
This is starting to remind of the battles 'tween Ayrton and Michael circa '93 and early '94...
[code]Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Montoya Williams BMW (M) 1:11.985 212.594 km/h 12
2. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:12.008 + 0.023 12
3. Barrichello Ferrari (B) 1:12.197 + 0.212 12
4. Raikkonen McLaren Mercedes (M) 1:12.244 + 0.259 12
5. R.Schumacher Williams BMW (M) 1:12.424 + 0.439 12
6. Coulthard McLaren Mercedes (M) 1:12.498 + 0.513 12
7. Button Renault (M) 1:12.761 + 0.776 12
8. Trulli Renault (M) 1:13.030 + 1.045 12
9. Irvine Jaguar Cosworth (M) 1:13.188 + 1.203 12
10. Heidfeld Sauber Petronas (B) 1:13.370 + 1.385 12
11. Panis BAR Honda (B) 1:13.457 + 1.472 12
12. Massa Sauber Petronas (B) 1:13.501 + 1.516 12
13. Villeneuve BAR Honda (B) 1:13.506 + 1.521 12
14. Sato Jordan Honda (B) 1:13.542 + 1.557 12
15. de la Rosa Jaguar Cosworth (M) 1:13.656 + 1.671 8
16. Salo Toyota (M) 1:13.837 + 1.852 12
17. McNish Toyota (M) 1:13.949 + 1.964 12
18. Webber Minardi Asiatech (M) 1:14.800 + 2.815 6
19. Yoong Minardi Asiatech (M) 1:16.798 + 4.813 7
20. Frentzen Arrows Cosworth (B) 1:18.497 + 6.512 3 *
21. Bernoldi Arrows Cosworth (B) 1:19.843 + 7.858 3 *
*Outside 107%[/code]Notes...[list][*]Tom Walkinshaw opted not to race his [b]Arrows[/b] team this weekend due to lack of money stemming from fighting between Arrows team investors, new potential owners, and Walkinshaw...[*][b]GianCarlo Fisichella[/b] did not qualify due to a nasty crash on the exit of the long, high speed Estoril right sweeper following the pit straight during today's 2nd practice... He was on the curbs when his front wing came off, went under the front wheels, turning Fisichella into a passenger as he rode into the tire barriers at high speed, destroying the car. Dr. Sid Watkins told GianCarlo that he is not allowed to race due to the high G deceleration he experienced, despite not seeing any signs of concussion.[*][b]Renault[/b] has announced their driver's line up for next year, and it is Trulli and [b]Alonso[/b]... Button should announce next week which team he will be driving for next season.[/list]
This is starting to remind of the battles 'tween Ayrton and Michael circa '93 and early '94...
[code]Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Montoya Williams BMW (M) 1:11.985 212.594 km/h 12
2. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:12.008 + 0.023 12
3. Barrichello Ferrari (B) 1:12.197 + 0.212 12
4. Raikkonen McLaren Mercedes (M) 1:12.244 + 0.259 12
5. R.Schumacher Williams BMW (M) 1:12.424 + 0.439 12
6. Coulthard McLaren Mercedes (M) 1:12.498 + 0.513 12
7. Button Renault (M) 1:12.761 + 0.776 12
8. Trulli Renault (M) 1:13.030 + 1.045 12
9. Irvine Jaguar Cosworth (M) 1:13.188 + 1.203 12
10. Heidfeld Sauber Petronas (B) 1:13.370 + 1.385 12
11. Panis BAR Honda (B) 1:13.457 + 1.472 12
12. Massa Sauber Petronas (B) 1:13.501 + 1.516 12
13. Villeneuve BAR Honda (B) 1:13.506 + 1.521 12
14. Sato Jordan Honda (B) 1:13.542 + 1.557 12
15. de la Rosa Jaguar Cosworth (M) 1:13.656 + 1.671 8
16. Salo Toyota (M) 1:13.837 + 1.852 12
17. McNish Toyota (M) 1:13.949 + 1.964 12
18. Webber Minardi Asiatech (M) 1:14.800 + 2.815 6
19. Yoong Minardi Asiatech (M) 1:16.798 + 4.813 7
20. Frentzen Arrows Cosworth (B) 1:18.497 + 6.512 3 *
21. Bernoldi Arrows Cosworth (B) 1:19.843 + 7.858 3 *
*Outside 107%[/code]Notes...[list][*]Tom Walkinshaw opted not to race his [b]Arrows[/b] team this weekend due to lack of money stemming from fighting between Arrows team investors, new potential owners, and Walkinshaw...[*][b]GianCarlo Fisichella[/b] did not qualify due to a nasty crash on the exit of the long, high speed Estoril right sweeper following the pit straight during today's 2nd practice... He was on the curbs when his front wing came off, went under the front wheels, turning Fisichella into a passenger as he rode into the tire barriers at high speed, destroying the car. Dr. Sid Watkins told GianCarlo that he is not allowed to race due to the high G deceleration he experienced, despite not seeing any signs of concussion.[*][b]Renault[/b] has announced their driver's line up for next year, and it is Trulli and [b]Alonso[/b]... Button should announce next week which team he will be driving for next season.[/list]
| OnTheGas | 07-20-2002 11:29 AM |
Lauda Leads Jaguar Up The Grid
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Fred Zaplitny [/i]
[B]Niki Lauda needs to be replaced for sure. Rahal would have done better had he been given the chance.[/B][/QUOTE]Well I have to disagree w/ya on this one, Fred. Who really knows if Rahal could have lead this turn around by Jaguar, but I was always afraid that Bobby would be out of his element, and would not be the effective leader that Ford needed for the team. I don't know if that is why Niki sacked Rahal, but if I was Ford, I would not hesitate to trust Niki's analysis and judgement.
Niki's a proven leader, having formed his own airline, and he knows very well how a F1 team should be operated, having spent so much of his post driver career in the paddocks as a consultant to the Ferrari F1 team.
I will argue that today's qualifying results clearly show that Niki is doing an excellent job in turning the big cat team around. Results are what matter, and he was handed a chassis which did not work a few months ago, and he completed a major revision of it as fast as possible, and today instead of fighting w/Minardi's for spots on the grid, they are firmly in the top ten on a clean, and clear qualifying session.
[B]Niki Lauda needs to be replaced for sure. Rahal would have done better had he been given the chance.[/B][/QUOTE]Well I have to disagree w/ya on this one, Fred. Who really knows if Rahal could have lead this turn around by Jaguar, but I was always afraid that Bobby would be out of his element, and would not be the effective leader that Ford needed for the team. I don't know if that is why Niki sacked Rahal, but if I was Ford, I would not hesitate to trust Niki's analysis and judgement.
Niki's a proven leader, having formed his own airline, and he knows very well how a F1 team should be operated, having spent so much of his post driver career in the paddocks as a consultant to the Ferrari F1 team.
I will argue that today's qualifying results clearly show that Niki is doing an excellent job in turning the big cat team around. Results are what matter, and he was handed a chassis which did not work a few months ago, and he completed a major revision of it as fast as possible, and today instead of fighting w/Minardi's for spots on the grid, they are firmly in the top ten on a clean, and clear qualifying session.
| Patrick Olsen | 07-20-2002 01:08 PM |
These last 5 races JPM has been beating Michael at his own game with the last minute pole-winning lap. Pretty awesome to watch. Hopefully the actual race will be more entertaining than the last 4 have been.
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan
| gtguy | 07-20-2002 02:03 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Fred Zaplitny [/i]
[B]Niki Lauda needs to be replaced for sure. Rahal would have done better had he been given the chance. Too bad the idiot squeezed him out like he did. I don't know who is more stupid; Ford or Lauda.
BTW: who cares who wins in France or anywhere else this season. It's a lost cause, the German is going to win it all again. All because Ferrari cheats! [/B][/QUOTE]
Wow, Fred! Tell us how you really feel. :lol: Darn that Ferrari! Those cheaters somehow scammed their way into the best driver, best car, most reliable car, and best pit strategist! Without cheating, there's no WAY they would win any races with that combo... And they're already working on next year's CheatMobile, a.k.a. the F2003. :D
First, Benetton...why not keep Button? I'm not completely clear on that one. Button was consistiently faster than Trulli.
Second, was that an awesome qualifying session, or what? Schumacher appeared puzzled, as did Todt, about the Ferrari's pokiness in the final sector. If, like Montoya's Williams, Ferrari had been able to maintain speed through that sector, Schumacher would have grabbed pole. Rubens would have been right where he was. I love the way JPM drives in qualifying...it's like a kid in a candy store the way he handles that Williams.
I agree with OTG on the Rahal vs. Lauda thing. That dog of a Jaguar was Rahal's last gasp. This Jaguar is Lauda at work, and it should get better. Let's not forget, however, that the Michelins are working particularly well this weekend, thanks to the warm weather in France. I think that Rahal was out of his element, but the publicity garnered for Jaguar Racing was incalculable.
I think that Dave (Oakos Automotive) has a job with Miss Cleo if he wants it. :lol:
I think that the race will be interesting, but the consistiency of the Ferraris (cheaters though they are...) will carry the day. I still look for another 1-2, though Montoya will make the lads have to work for it in the first part of the race.
Kevin
[B]Niki Lauda needs to be replaced for sure. Rahal would have done better had he been given the chance. Too bad the idiot squeezed him out like he did. I don't know who is more stupid; Ford or Lauda.
BTW: who cares who wins in France or anywhere else this season. It's a lost cause, the German is going to win it all again. All because Ferrari cheats! [/B][/QUOTE]
Wow, Fred! Tell us how you really feel. :lol: Darn that Ferrari! Those cheaters somehow scammed their way into the best driver, best car, most reliable car, and best pit strategist! Without cheating, there's no WAY they would win any races with that combo... And they're already working on next year's CheatMobile, a.k.a. the F2003. :D
First, Benetton...why not keep Button? I'm not completely clear on that one. Button was consistiently faster than Trulli.
Second, was that an awesome qualifying session, or what? Schumacher appeared puzzled, as did Todt, about the Ferrari's pokiness in the final sector. If, like Montoya's Williams, Ferrari had been able to maintain speed through that sector, Schumacher would have grabbed pole. Rubens would have been right where he was. I love the way JPM drives in qualifying...it's like a kid in a candy store the way he handles that Williams.
I agree with OTG on the Rahal vs. Lauda thing. That dog of a Jaguar was Rahal's last gasp. This Jaguar is Lauda at work, and it should get better. Let's not forget, however, that the Michelins are working particularly well this weekend, thanks to the warm weather in France. I think that Rahal was out of his element, but the publicity garnered for Jaguar Racing was incalculable.
I think that Dave (Oakos Automotive) has a job with Miss Cleo if he wants it. :lol:
I think that the race will be interesting, but the consistiency of the Ferraris (cheaters though they are...) will carry the day. I still look for another 1-2, though Montoya will make the lads have to work for it in the first part of the race.
Kevin
| Fred Zaplitny | 07-20-2002 02:34 PM |
I stand by what I said. I don't care for Lauda, and Rahal was never allowed to be a part of the F-1 element. It is a club, and he was never allowed in. He was never taken seriously by the elitest F-1 a**holes.
Go Montoya!!!
Go Montoya!!!
| OAKOS Automotive | 07-20-2002 07:38 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RollingRex [/i]
[B]
Wow, Dave you got pretty close, Montoyas pole time was 1:11.985
-R- [/B][/QUOTE]
After extensive calculations and analysis I was confident that I had it narrowed down to +/- a few thousandths. ;)
GTguy, I don't know if Miss Cleo is hiring, last I heard she was under indictment for fraud. And to think all those times I trusted her to make important decisions for me. :rolleyes: :lol:
-Dave Kearney
[B]
Wow, Dave you got pretty close, Montoyas pole time was 1:11.985
-R- [/B][/QUOTE]
After extensive calculations and analysis I was confident that I had it narrowed down to +/- a few thousandths. ;)
GTguy, I don't know if Miss Cleo is hiring, last I heard she was under indictment for fraud. And to think all those times I trusted her to make important decisions for me. :rolleyes: :lol:
-Dave Kearney
| gtguy | 07-20-2002 11:06 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Oakos Automotive [/i]
[B]GTguy, I don't know if Miss Cleo is hiring, last I heard she was under indictment for fraud. And to think all those times I trusted her to make important decisions for me. :rolleyes: :lol:
-Dave Kearney [/B][/QUOTE]
But she's already foreseen her acquital, and is posting want ads.
:lol:
Kevin
[B]GTguy, I don't know if Miss Cleo is hiring, last I heard she was under indictment for fraud. And to think all those times I trusted her to make important decisions for me. :rolleyes: :lol:
-Dave Kearney [/B][/QUOTE]
But she's already foreseen her acquital, and is posting want ads.
:lol:
Kevin
| Leonardo | 07-21-2002 09:51 AM |
Michael wins his fifth title!!!
Why can't it have been Michael's car instead of Rubens that went bad?
Oh well:(
Leo
Why can't it have been Michael's car instead of Rubens that went bad?
Oh well:(
Leo
| Patrick Olsen | 07-21-2002 10:21 AM |
Man, what a bummer for poor Kimi. :( As much as I'm a fan of Schumi, I'm even more a fan of the up-and-comers (whether it be specific drivers, or a whole team), and I think it would have been really neat to see Kimi pull off his first ever win today. He just looked horrible during the podium ceremony.
And when is Reubens finally going to break down and decide that the Gods just don't want him to succeed and off himself? No, I don't really think he's going to kill himself, but damn that poor guy just has no luck whatsoever.
Pat
And when is Reubens finally going to break down and decide that the Gods just don't want him to succeed and off himself? No, I don't really think he's going to kill himself, but damn that poor guy just has no luck whatsoever.
Pat
| OAKOS Automotive | 07-21-2002 11:13 AM |
I felt really bad for Kimi too, especially in the post race press conference when he said something to the effect of "this has been my most dissapointing race ever".
As much as Fred and others would disagree, I feel that we are very lucky to witness this record tieing 5th championship. Commentators and fans alike will still be talking about this historic moment and season for many many years to come.
-Dave Kearney
As much as Fred and others would disagree, I feel that we are very lucky to witness this record tieing 5th championship. Commentators and fans alike will still be talking about this historic moment and season for many many years to come.
-Dave Kearney
| Fred Zaplitny | 07-21-2002 03:32 PM |
I understand the magnitude of the 5 titles. I just don't consider Micheal one of the greatest ever. I have a problem with that. I think he just got lucky with the teams he's been on. He's had superior equipment and personnel behind him. Hopefully he will retire now, or maybe head to the IRL. :lol:
Okay, how about CART?!
He should definitely sit out the rest of the season......because I HATE him!
Okay, how about CART?!
He should definitely sit out the rest of the season......because I HATE him!
| gtguy | 07-21-2002 10:07 PM |
There were so many things to love about that race today:
Kimi! Whoda thunk it? What was interesting, was that it seemed that Schumi had settled for second, deciding to glue up to Kimi and put that red in his mirrors to see what happened. I don't think that he ever thought that in fact, something would. Unreal. I felt SO bad for Kimi, because he's a favorite driver of mine. His pass on Ralfie was awesome.
Schumacher's championship is amazing. I think that (well, hopefully) people will begin to see him for the remarkable driver that he is. Look at what happened to Benetton after he left...nuttin. He pulled Ferrari up by the bootstraps, to where they are now. Just a remarkable driver, and a remarkable accomplishment. To the best driver, most reliable car, best pit strategy, etc, you have to add luckiest. The man flat out rules.
Rubens...what can you say? If there's bad luck to be had, he'll get it. Did anyone catch the gesture he made as he was getting out of the car? He was furious.
Michael's drive-through was a riot. I couldn't beLIEVE he didn't get a pit lane speeding penalty. The last time check (pre-penalty) was nine seconds and change. He did the drive-through, and came out in third, right on the heels of Kimi and JPM. Coulthard's drive-through was more like reality. Schumi appeared to hit that "time warp drive through."
Great drive from DC, and what the hell is up with Ralf? It looks like Williams is turning the wick down on the race cars, to keep them from blowing up, but they aren't fast. Look at when Michael got clear air from Montoya. He was a lot faster than the Williams. If Williams doesn't watch it, McLaren is going to catch and pass them for the "best of the rest" sweepstakes.
What a great time, and a great race.
Kevin
Kimi! Whoda thunk it? What was interesting, was that it seemed that Schumi had settled for second, deciding to glue up to Kimi and put that red in his mirrors to see what happened. I don't think that he ever thought that in fact, something would. Unreal. I felt SO bad for Kimi, because he's a favorite driver of mine. His pass on Ralfie was awesome.
Schumacher's championship is amazing. I think that (well, hopefully) people will begin to see him for the remarkable driver that he is. Look at what happened to Benetton after he left...nuttin. He pulled Ferrari up by the bootstraps, to where they are now. Just a remarkable driver, and a remarkable accomplishment. To the best driver, most reliable car, best pit strategy, etc, you have to add luckiest. The man flat out rules.
Rubens...what can you say? If there's bad luck to be had, he'll get it. Did anyone catch the gesture he made as he was getting out of the car? He was furious.
Michael's drive-through was a riot. I couldn't beLIEVE he didn't get a pit lane speeding penalty. The last time check (pre-penalty) was nine seconds and change. He did the drive-through, and came out in third, right on the heels of Kimi and JPM. Coulthard's drive-through was more like reality. Schumi appeared to hit that "time warp drive through."
Great drive from DC, and what the hell is up with Ralf? It looks like Williams is turning the wick down on the race cars, to keep them from blowing up, but they aren't fast. Look at when Michael got clear air from Montoya. He was a lot faster than the Williams. If Williams doesn't watch it, McLaren is going to catch and pass them for the "best of the rest" sweepstakes.
What a great time, and a great race.
Kevin
| Brett555 | 07-21-2002 10:39 PM |
I think this was my favorite race of the whole season. Even though I'm a big Schumacher fan, I was really pulling for Kimi. Too bad that Toyota had to drop oil in front of him.
He's still young though, and has a great future. One things for sure, they need to get a PR guy working with him right away, he reminds me of Mika (Mr. Boring) in the press conferences. He's like a freaking robot or something :D
He's still young though, and has a great future. One things for sure, they need to get a PR guy working with him right away, he reminds me of Mika (Mr. Boring) in the press conferences. He's like a freaking robot or something :D
| finnRex | 07-21-2002 11:04 PM |
JPM...
...is so blazingly fast in qualifying because they use a different motor for qualifying than for the race. They use a tighter strung motor for qualifying to give him an edge. If only they could get a decent motor that could last a whole race;)
I only wish that Kimi would have been on top. Thanks to Toyota, Kimi'll have to ride hard to get those stats up there with Schumi;) Go Kimi(I'd like to see another fellow Finn do well in F1).
I only wish that Kimi would have been on top. Thanks to Toyota, Kimi'll have to ride hard to get those stats up there with Schumi;) Go Kimi(I'd like to see another fellow Finn do well in F1).
| finnRex | 07-21-2002 11:06 PM |
Hey Brett...
...a PR person might help Kimi, but it might not. Finns have a tendency to not show too much emotion. Stoic bastards...
| grandpa rex | 07-22-2002 06:57 AM |
I thought that this was the best racing of the season up front. Those first 3 or 4 laps were amazing! Lots of intrigue with the drive thrus, etc. I was very disappointed for Raikkonen to lose what should have been his victory. Congratulations to MS. He has transformed Ferrari from a bloated mid-packer to clearly the best car on the grid.
Statistically he is clearly the best F1 driver ever. He has both skill and will.
However, my heart still is still with Senna. I'm not sure he had Schumi's fitness or total focus, or even skill, but he had even more will. He's still my man.
Statistically he is clearly the best F1 driver ever. He has both skill and will.
However, my heart still is still with Senna. I'm not sure he had Schumi's fitness or total focus, or even skill, but he had even more will. He's still my man.
| Brett555 | 07-22-2002 09:02 AM |
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Statistically he is clearly the best F1 driver ever. He has both skill and will.
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...and he's a great spokesman for the sport. His "speech" in the post-race press conference was touching. He really praised the entire team at Ferrari. Yes, he's arrogant, but I think he realizes that without that team behind him, he wouldn't be where he is today.
Statistically he is clearly the best F1 driver ever. He has both skill and will.
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...and he's a great spokesman for the sport. His "speech" in the post-race press conference was touching. He really praised the entire team at Ferrari. Yes, he's arrogant, but I think he realizes that without that team behind him, he wouldn't be where he is today.
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