| cronic | 11-25-2002 10:09 AM |
need opinions on h.i.d for jdm's
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I was just wondering which h.i.d's any of u guys would reccomend. I was also wondering if there were any problems i should know about.
Thanks
dave
Thanks
dave
| MINO | 11-25-2002 11:28 AM |
I'm using a hids4less.com stage-2 kit. It's been very reliable and they have a great 5 year warranty. They use true 6000k phillips bulbs and phillips/hella or panasonic ballasts.
The only problem is the $700 price.
The only problem is the $700 price.
| BLCK DVL | 11-25-2002 01:47 PM |
I'm using a McCulloch HID kit on my JDM wrx headlights, cost $515.00 and so far I am very happy with the results.
| krazedant | 11-25-2002 02:04 PM |
Does anyone know if the McCulloch's are more white than blue? By that I mean you can barely see any bit of bluish tint.
| BLCK DVL | 11-25-2002 03:13 PM |
The McCulloch HID kit is a very intense white with only a tiny hint of blue.
| clamdip | 11-25-2002 03:28 PM |
go with mcculloch's man. i have them also, they're the bomb.
| kilyung | 12-17-2002 10:01 PM |
where'd you guys order your mcculloch hid kits from?
| jlogan9 | 12-17-2002 11:17 PM |
I got the hella kit. They are nice, but the nicest part is the $370 price tag!
| lenyx | 12-18-2002 12:38 AM |
While you can order McCulloch kits from the I-club store.. why pay more money than you have to? Sounddomain.com sells them for $489 while I-club sells them for $529. Not a huge difference.. but enough that you could almost but a Jim Hoyd harness with the money saved.
As for output, there's no question that mine look blue to oncoming traffic. The output is also very bright whitish/blue. I was surprised that a bulb that's supposed to be emmitting bright white is tinted blue... but I'm happy with the result. Wish I had pics to show.
As for output, there's no question that mine look blue to oncoming traffic. The output is also very bright whitish/blue. I was surprised that a bulb that's supposed to be emmitting bright white is tinted blue... but I'm happy with the result. Wish I had pics to show.
| krazedant | 12-18-2002 01:04 PM |
I just got my McColluch's installed about 2 weekends ago. They came out A LOT better than I expected them too. I thought it was gonna be completely white, but there is a bluish hue to them that you can definitely notice. Thumbs up from me for McColluchs.
| BLCK DVL | 12-18-2002 02:31 PM |
If you call [url]www.booststore.com[/url] and mention I-Club, they also sell them for $489.00 + shipping for the WRX.
| MAD REX | 12-18-2002 05:16 PM |
[URL=http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=284226]HID group buy[/URL]
| jimhoyd | 12-18-2002 05:22 PM |
I have the misterjung kit, 5200K but I am not too happy with the light output, but for the price.. I really can't complain! =)
| kilyung | 12-18-2002 05:38 PM |
i think, based on all the searching i've done, that i'm leaning towards the mcculloch 5000k h1 hid kit for my lhd sti projectors. however, what i really want is a 4300k kit. anyone know of any oem applications of a h1 4300k bulb, ballast, ignitor?
| lenyx | 12-18-2002 06:04 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by kilyung [/i]
[B]i think, based on all the searching i've done, that i'm leaning towards the mcculloch 5000k h1 hid kit for my lhd sti projectors. however, what i really want is a 4300k kit. anyone know of any oem applications of a h1 4300k bulb, ballast, ignitor? [/B][/QUOTE]
You could just order the McCulloch kit and ask for the 4300K bulbs.
[B]i think, based on all the searching i've done, that i'm leaning towards the mcculloch 5000k h1 hid kit for my lhd sti projectors. however, what i really want is a 4300k kit. anyone know of any oem applications of a h1 4300k bulb, ballast, ignitor? [/B][/QUOTE]
You could just order the McCulloch kit and ask for the 4300K bulbs.
| kilyung | 12-18-2002 07:48 PM |
you can do that?! hoorah! if i don't find a better deal, that's what i'm going to do. thanks y'all
| G-force | 12-18-2002 11:29 PM |
HEY!! I have a set of brand new McCulloch H1 HID for sale for the jdm-edm projector lights. [URL=http://www.flatfours.com/forsale/]Click HERE!!![/URL]
| kilyung | 12-18-2002 11:48 PM |
hmm... interesting. however, the bulbs in your picture look blue. are those the 6000k-7000k bulbs?
| Yungimoto | 12-18-2002 11:49 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by kilyung [/i]
[B]hmm... interesting. however, the bulbs in your picture look blue. are those the 6000k-7000k bulbs? [/B][/QUOTE]
All the McCulloch bulbs on the website are blue.
[B]hmm... interesting. however, the bulbs in your picture look blue. are those the 6000k-7000k bulbs? [/B][/QUOTE]
All the McCulloch bulbs on the website are blue.
| kilyung | 12-19-2002 12:01 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Yungimoto [/i]
[B]
All the McCulloch bulbs on the website are blue. [/B][/QUOTE]
i thought only bulbs in the 5000-7000k range had a bluish tint? i've been told that 4300k bulbs are clear. untrue?
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All the McCulloch bulbs on the website are blue. [/B][/QUOTE]
i thought only bulbs in the 5000-7000k range had a bluish tint? i've been told that 4300k bulbs are clear. untrue?
| Yungimoto | 12-19-2002 12:06 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by kilyung [/i]
[B]
i thought only bulbs in the 5000-7000k range had a bluish tint? i've been told that 4300k bulbs are clear. untrue? [/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry, the bulb is physically blue. The light color will change depending on range. If he got the normal McCulloch kit, it's probably the 5000k range.
Here's a picture from the McCulloch website/I-club store
[IMG]http://store.nasioc.com/grfx/i_Club_McCulloch_BulbsBig.jpg[/IMG]
[B]
i thought only bulbs in the 5000-7000k range had a bluish tint? i've been told that 4300k bulbs are clear. untrue? [/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry, the bulb is physically blue. The light color will change depending on range. If he got the normal McCulloch kit, it's probably the 5000k range.
Here's a picture from the McCulloch website/I-club store
[IMG]http://store.nasioc.com/grfx/i_Club_McCulloch_BulbsBig.jpg[/IMG]
| G-force | 12-19-2002 12:14 AM |
what he said :D
| kilyung | 12-19-2002 12:21 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Yungimoto [/i]
Sorry, the bulb is physically blue. The light color will change depending on range. If he got the normal McCulloch kit, it's probably the 5000k range.
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okay, so let me get this straight. ALL hid bulbs are blue but depending on the color range, shine different colors? so the 4300k bulb color is the same as a 8000k bulb but shines a different spectrum light?
hey yungi, did you order lights from gary as well? are you going hid also? if so, could you share any research/info that helped you decide what to get? from what i've researched, 4300k is best for performance and even has some blueness to it thanks to proectors. i'm more interested in performance than looks so i want lots of lumens. thoughts?
Sorry, the bulb is physically blue. The light color will change depending on range. If he got the normal McCulloch kit, it's probably the 5000k range.
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okay, so let me get this straight. ALL hid bulbs are blue but depending on the color range, shine different colors? so the 4300k bulb color is the same as a 8000k bulb but shines a different spectrum light?
hey yungi, did you order lights from gary as well? are you going hid also? if so, could you share any research/info that helped you decide what to get? from what i've researched, 4300k is best for performance and even has some blueness to it thanks to proectors. i'm more interested in performance than looks so i want lots of lumens. thoughts?
| lenyx | 12-19-2002 12:32 AM |
[IMG]http://www.mccullochhid.com/pics/comparison.jpg[/IMG]
I was concerned with brightness over looks too.. but ended up going with the 5000K. I can tell you that they are very bright, though probably not as good as 4300K would be in the fog/rain. I'm getting some PIAA Ion Crystal fogs that look white/blue but throw down yellow light to help.
I was concerned with brightness over looks too.. but ended up going with the 5000K. I can tell you that they are very bright, though probably not as good as 4300K would be in the fog/rain. I'm getting some PIAA Ion Crystal fogs that look white/blue but throw down yellow light to help.
| kilyung | 12-19-2002 12:36 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by lenyx [/i]
[B][IMG]http://www.mccullochhid.com/pics/comparison.jpg[/IMG] [/B][/QUOTE]
cool picture! but now i'm even more confused. i thought d2s=hid? yet the picture is comparing 4300k d2s vs. 4300k hid?
[B][IMG]http://www.mccullochhid.com/pics/comparison.jpg[/IMG] [/B][/QUOTE]
cool picture! but now i'm even more confused. i thought d2s=hid? yet the picture is comparing 4300k d2s vs. 4300k hid?
| lenyx | 12-19-2002 12:38 AM |
yes they are all HID. Just a different ballast and bulb series I believe.
Also, I edited my above post with comments. If you haven't already been there go here: [url]http://www.mccullochhid.com[/url]
Also, I edited my above post with comments. If you haven't already been there go here: [url]http://www.mccullochhid.com[/url]
| Yungimoto | 12-19-2002 12:41 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by kilyung [/i]
[B]
okay, so let me get this straight. ALL hid bulbs are blue but depending on the color range, shine different colors? so the 4300k bulb color is the same as a 8000k bulb but shines a different spectrum light?
hey yungi, did you order lights from gary as well? are you going hid also? if so, could you share any research/info that helped you decide what to get? from what i've researched, 4300k is best for performance and even has some blueness to it thanks to proectors. i'm more interested in performance than looks so i want lots of lumens. thoughts? [/B][/QUOTE]
Ah sorry, I'm confusing you. :)
The McCulloch 5000k are physically blue as shown in the picture. Other brands may or may not have blue bulbs. I know many are clear. Unfortunately, it seems to be very hard to tell what the light will look like through pictures on the internet.
I actually ordered lights through cc-b. I'm kind of at the beginning stages of picking out an hid kit right now. Just from reading posts here I can see that several people like their mcculloch kits. I also know that several people like the kits from misterjung(do a search for misterjung and you should find some pictures)
I'd be curious to see if you can order 4300k bulbs from mcculloch(I'd imagine you can) Otherwise, 5000k seems like it would offer good performance and maybe a slight color.
[B]
okay, so let me get this straight. ALL hid bulbs are blue but depending on the color range, shine different colors? so the 4300k bulb color is the same as a 8000k bulb but shines a different spectrum light?
hey yungi, did you order lights from gary as well? are you going hid also? if so, could you share any research/info that helped you decide what to get? from what i've researched, 4300k is best for performance and even has some blueness to it thanks to proectors. i'm more interested in performance than looks so i want lots of lumens. thoughts? [/B][/QUOTE]
Ah sorry, I'm confusing you. :)
The McCulloch 5000k are physically blue as shown in the picture. Other brands may or may not have blue bulbs. I know many are clear. Unfortunately, it seems to be very hard to tell what the light will look like through pictures on the internet.
I actually ordered lights through cc-b. I'm kind of at the beginning stages of picking out an hid kit right now. Just from reading posts here I can see that several people like their mcculloch kits. I also know that several people like the kits from misterjung(do a search for misterjung and you should find some pictures)
I'd be curious to see if you can order 4300k bulbs from mcculloch(I'd imagine you can) Otherwise, 5000k seems like it would offer good performance and maybe a slight color.
| kilyung | 12-19-2002 12:42 AM |
believe me i have. i've spent the last 24 hours on the mcculloch site. i'm not very impressed with the navigation on the site. information seems kind of hard to squeeze out. besides, everything seems geared towards the 5000k kits with not much comparative information.
| kilyung | 12-19-2002 12:46 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Yungimoto [/i]
[B]
I actually ordered lights through cc-b...
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duh. that's who i meant. not gary, eddy. i ordered mine through eddy as well. great guy and sounds like we'll have them in the first week of january eh?
[B]
I actually ordered lights through cc-b...
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duh. that's who i meant. not gary, eddy. i ordered mine through eddy as well. great guy and sounds like we'll have them in the first week of january eh?
| lenyx | 12-19-2002 12:47 AM |
Just to clarify.. you CAN order 4300k. I've been talking to gourmet garage alot in the past few weeks.. here is part of one of their emails to me:
"If you want the brightest, order the 4200K. The trade off would be the yellowing color. We have the H1 available right now. Just indicate that when you order with I-Club.
As for the color, pure white would be dangerous in the fog because it will bounce back and blind you. But if you're getting 4200K, there should not be an issue."
Hope that helps.. like I said.. I'm getting yellow fog lights, and will probably wire them up so that I can have them on without the headlights.
Dan
"If you want the brightest, order the 4200K. The trade off would be the yellowing color. We have the H1 available right now. Just indicate that when you order with I-Club.
As for the color, pure white would be dangerous in the fog because it will bounce back and blind you. But if you're getting 4200K, there should not be an issue."
Hope that helps.. like I said.. I'm getting yellow fog lights, and will probably wire them up so that I can have them on without the headlights.
Dan
| Yungimoto | 12-19-2002 12:49 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by lenyx [/i]
[B]Just to clarify.. you CAN order 4300k. I've been talking to gourmet garage alot in the past few weeks.. here is part of one of their emails to me:
"If you want the brightest, order the 4200K. The trade off would be the yellowing color. We have the H1 available right now. Just indicate that when you order with I-Club.
As for the color, pure white would be dangerous in the fog because it will bounce back and blind you. But if you're getting 4200K, there should not be an issue."
Hope that helps.. like I said.. I'm getting yellow fog lights, and will probably wire them up so that I can have them on without the headlights.
Dan [/B][/QUOTE]
Hmm, sounds good. Can you actually order from the site? I didn't see an online store anywhere.
[B]Just to clarify.. you CAN order 4300k. I've been talking to gourmet garage alot in the past few weeks.. here is part of one of their emails to me:
"If you want the brightest, order the 4200K. The trade off would be the yellowing color. We have the H1 available right now. Just indicate that when you order with I-Club.
As for the color, pure white would be dangerous in the fog because it will bounce back and blind you. But if you're getting 4200K, there should not be an issue."
Hope that helps.. like I said.. I'm getting yellow fog lights, and will probably wire them up so that I can have them on without the headlights.
Dan [/B][/QUOTE]
Hmm, sounds good. Can you actually order from the site? I didn't see an online store anywhere.
| kilyung | 12-19-2002 12:53 AM |
dan,
good info. but now i'm worried about getting 4300k (too white). sigh. this is difficult.
good info. but now i'm worried about getting 4300k (too white). sigh. this is difficult.
| lenyx | 12-19-2002 12:55 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by kilyung [/i]
[B]dan,
good info. but now i'm worried about getting 4300k (too white). sigh. this is difficult. [/B][/QUOTE]
heh.. 4300K isn't too white. Look at the pic I posted before. He was talking about 5000K being too white. ;)
[B]dan,
good info. but now i'm worried about getting 4300k (too white). sigh. this is difficult. [/B][/QUOTE]
heh.. 4300K isn't too white. Look at the pic I posted before. He was talking about 5000K being too white. ;)
| Yungimoto | 12-19-2002 12:57 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by lenyx [/i]
[B]
heh.. 4300K isn't too white. Look at the pic I posted before. He was talking about 5000K being too white. ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
So 5000k is TOO white now?
Damn, people like to be confusing on this topic.
[B]
heh.. 4300K isn't too white. Look at the pic I posted before. He was talking about 5000K being too white. ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
So 5000k is TOO white now?
Damn, people like to be confusing on this topic.
| lenyx | 12-19-2002 12:57 AM |
Thought I'd also pass this along to anyone who is interested just to make this even more confusing :devil:
[QUOTE]In about a month we will introduce 6000 (white), 7000 (white blue), & 9000K (white purple/pink). If you are willing to wait, the ballast will power all 4 types of bulbs (which would allow you to upgrade). The current 5000K ballast could only power the 4200K and 5000K. Pricing should remain the same for 5000K & 6000K but you can upgrade to a better color by changing the bulb.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]In about a month we will introduce 6000 (white), 7000 (white blue), & 9000K (white purple/pink). If you are willing to wait, the ballast will power all 4 types of bulbs (which would allow you to upgrade). The current 5000K ballast could only power the 4200K and 5000K. Pricing should remain the same for 5000K & 6000K but you can upgrade to a better color by changing the bulb.[/QUOTE]
| kilyung | 12-19-2002 12:59 AM |
*groan* so i'd be better off buying a 8000k kit and simply swapping out the bulb as suited?
| Yungimoto | 12-19-2002 01:05 AM |
Screw it, I'm going to buy those HID flashlights and duct tape them to my hood.
| lenyx | 12-19-2002 01:13 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by kilyung [/i]
[B]*groan* so i'd be better off buying a 8000k kit and simply swapping out the bulb as suited? [/B][/QUOTE]
Well since you said you were concerned about light output I'd just get the 4300K kit if I was you. Well, maybe not since I said I was concerned with light output but ended up getting the 5000k kit anyway. :D
I wouldn't worry too much about old vs new ballast since the new ballast colors are pretty much just for show.
[B]*groan* so i'd be better off buying a 8000k kit and simply swapping out the bulb as suited? [/B][/QUOTE]
Well since you said you were concerned about light output I'd just get the 4300K kit if I was you. Well, maybe not since I said I was concerned with light output but ended up getting the 5000k kit anyway. :D
I wouldn't worry too much about old vs new ballast since the new ballast colors are pretty much just for show.
| kilyung | 12-19-2002 01:21 AM |
out of curiosity, does the 5000k kit look oe? i mean is it obvious that it's a conversion kit and not an oe setup? the cops in my area have been known to pull over cars with non-oe looking lights. i'm told the 4300k lights most resemble oe lights a la BMW/AUDI and is therefore harder to identify as a conversion kit.
edit: of course, if the 4300k coloring looks like halogen than forget it.
edit: of course, if the 4300k coloring looks like halogen than forget it.
| D. Romanucci | 12-19-2002 11:46 AM |
Take a look at this [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=287443&highlight=hid+AND+color+AND+factory.[/url] I would use the BMW or AUDI or MB color temp, which seems to be around 4300K.
If that url does not come throug as clickable, my search was hid AND bmw AND audi. Three results came up. The URL listed is the thread by MRWAGON.
European lighting standard are more advnaced than in the US. THe auto leveling capability in Porsches is there because of dazzle regulations establishd by the EU. I don't know, but infer that the color temp is regulated as well. I have clocked a lot of miles driving in the EU countries. THe lighting technology is the thing I miss the most about the cars. That and the occupants who know how to use them.
I will be putting HIDs (4300K) in a set of STI projectors. God willing and the creek don't rise.
If that url does not come throug as clickable, my search was hid AND bmw AND audi. Three results came up. The URL listed is the thread by MRWAGON.
European lighting standard are more advnaced than in the US. THe auto leveling capability in Porsches is there because of dazzle regulations establishd by the EU. I don't know, but infer that the color temp is regulated as well. I have clocked a lot of miles driving in the EU countries. THe lighting technology is the thing I miss the most about the cars. That and the occupants who know how to use them.
I will be putting HIDs (4300K) in a set of STI projectors. God willing and the creek don't rise.
| InfamousDX | 01-16-2003 04:24 AM |
GEe I just got a whole lot more confused. Which is whiter... 4300 or 5000??? Because I want the ones with slight bluish tint...
| kilyung | 01-16-2003 06:44 AM |
then get the 5000k.
| D. Romanucci | 01-16-2003 06:59 AM |
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OK the lights came. THey are broken so I am dealing with UPS. What suggestions does anyone have as to the brand? Which kits were the best leaid out for installation, performance and durability?
| kilyung | 01-16-2003 12:11 PM |
Sorry to hear about your lights. Mine arrived busted last week as well but I should be getting replacements next week. Seems breakage is common when you mix subaru packaging + UPS.
Order the McCulloch 5000k kit. Seems universally respected and good quality.
Order the McCulloch 5000k kit. Seems universally respected and good quality.
| acquadi | 01-17-2003 08:03 PM |
I would go with 4300k if the place you live got a lot of rain or snow. I wouldn't go more then 5000k in my opinion. But in the other hand, if you want the looks not the actual function of HID, then 6000k or above got the looks or even shows a great difference if you compare to audi, bmw, benz, or s2000. But then you might also attract cops too since HID do blind on coming traffics or behind a car if the road is not smooth or downhill and if the cops see your blue/purple headlight blind them, they can pull u over and give you a ticket :)
And I wouldn't buy a tinted bulbs as well. There is technology to make a clear bulb that rated 5000k or even more, why tinted a 4300k bulbs so it can be look like a 5000k one? And I am thinking it reduces the brightness too because it is tinted. Just ask you self this question: "do you see more clear through a clear window or a tinted window in ur car?" It should be similar to the light going through the bulbs as well.
I would try misterjung's $370 kit (5200k to 7000k) isntead of a set of tinted bulbs. Hella ballast is as good as Mcculloch and if I am not wrong, almost all the cars that equipped with HID is using Hella ballast(Osram is OEM by hella, Philps is oem by Hella).
For those people who got the Mcculloch one, does it says that the bulbs are from Mcculloch on the bottom stand of the light bulb?? Or it's just a black pure black(I would guess it's black??) with a Mcculloch ballast??
And I wouldn't buy a tinted bulbs as well. There is technology to make a clear bulb that rated 5000k or even more, why tinted a 4300k bulbs so it can be look like a 5000k one? And I am thinking it reduces the brightness too because it is tinted. Just ask you self this question: "do you see more clear through a clear window or a tinted window in ur car?" It should be similar to the light going through the bulbs as well.
I would try misterjung's $370 kit (5200k to 7000k) isntead of a set of tinted bulbs. Hella ballast is as good as Mcculloch and if I am not wrong, almost all the cars that equipped with HID is using Hella ballast(Osram is OEM by hella, Philps is oem by Hella).
For those people who got the Mcculloch one, does it says that the bulbs are from Mcculloch on the bottom stand of the light bulb?? Or it's just a black pure black(I would guess it's black??) with a Mcculloch ballast??
| clamdip | 01-17-2003 11:08 PM |
i've got to say that the mcculloch hid's are the best. i have a pair for my projectors and let me tell you it's the "BOMB". it just lights up everywhere man, i mean EVERYWHERE. i have the 4300K color temp and it has a bluish/purplish tint to it from different angles so it still looks awesome. the closer you are to it, the whiter it looks, the farther away you are, it looks white with a blue tint around, not enough to attract cops, trust me. i drove head to head with tons of cops and no problems at all. knock on wood. that's basically it in a nut shell.
| vwluv10338 | 01-25-2003 07:20 PM |
This is all very confusing and here is what I have gathered so far about 4300K and 5000K. 5000K buts out more of a blue light and the reason the 4300K on BMW etc. buts out blue light is because of the projector asting as a prizm. Check out [url]http://www.geocities.com/jvxdriver/hid_projector_beam.htm[/url]
Eric
Eric
| BlueBerryRex | 04-20-2005 09:31 PM |
anyone know the type of hid kit i would need for 02 jdm hid headlights (have the black chrome housing, but not the ballast bulb)
| Mulder | 04-20-2005 09:39 PM |
If you have the OEM HID lights you need OEM-type D2S HID bulbs. You don't need a "kit" since the housings are already set up for HID, but you do need to have the original ballasts and internal wiring they came with. Aftermarket stuff will not fit.
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