| WagonMonster | 06-16-2005 11:32 AM |
No More Michelin in Rally
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[b]Michelin changes name[/b]
The Michelin name will leave the World Rally Championship at the end of this year to be replaced by the French tyre concern's sister brand, BF Goodrich. The Michelin Group has made the decision to consolidate the identity of its WRC arm with its tyre operations in endurance rally events, such as the Dakar, under the BF Goodrich brand.
In a statement issued today, Michelin said that it anticipated being involved in the WRC with its new identity for "many years to come". "This decision strengthens BFGoodrich Tyres' current racing implication in the Rally Raid World Cup, in the Dakar Rally, as well as in numerous Northern-American competitions such as the Score Baja 1000," the statement said.
"The Michelin Group and Ford have the intention to continue their partnership in WRC for the years to come. BFGoodrich Tires will bring into this partnership its widespread racing experience and Michelin Group's most up-to-date technology. Car racing and motor sports in general form a key element of Michelin Group's strategy."
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:huh:
[b]Michelin changes name[/b]
The Michelin name will leave the World Rally Championship at the end of this year to be replaced by the French tyre concern's sister brand, BF Goodrich. The Michelin Group has made the decision to consolidate the identity of its WRC arm with its tyre operations in endurance rally events, such as the Dakar, under the BF Goodrich brand.
In a statement issued today, Michelin said that it anticipated being involved in the WRC with its new identity for "many years to come". "This decision strengthens BFGoodrich Tyres' current racing implication in the Rally Raid World Cup, in the Dakar Rally, as well as in numerous Northern-American competitions such as the Score Baja 1000," the statement said.
"The Michelin Group and Ford have the intention to continue their partnership in WRC for the years to come. BFGoodrich Tires will bring into this partnership its widespread racing experience and Michelin Group's most up-to-date technology. Car racing and motor sports in general form a key element of Michelin Group's strategy."
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:huh:
| rupertberr | 06-16-2005 11:37 AM |
Cool. Maybe it will now be easier to get rally tires in the States. Not holding my breath though.
| WagonMonster | 06-16-2005 12:20 PM |
Is it hard to get rally tires in the states?
I've never had a problem. [url]www.subesports.com[/url]
I've never had a problem. [url]www.subesports.com[/url]
| AlbaScoob | 06-16-2005 12:29 PM |
looking forward to a BF Goodrich rally tire...
their off-road racing tires are great!
their off-road racing tires are great!
| DrBiggly | 06-16-2005 12:42 PM |
Well I didn't see that one coming. :huh:
I suppose it makes sense to the French marketing team but it certainly doesn't to me. The Michelin brand has pushed itself into the upper echelons of consumers' minds here in the US through a good reputation built on a great marketing campaign. Not that Michelin makes bad tires, I just don't think they're that much of a cut above everyone else as their price would suggest for passenger tires.
As for rally tires...I have no idea. But I'm still scratching my head about the name change. :huh: :)
Does this make sense to anyone else?
-Biggly
I suppose it makes sense to the French marketing team but it certainly doesn't to me. The Michelin brand has pushed itself into the upper echelons of consumers' minds here in the US through a good reputation built on a great marketing campaign. Not that Michelin makes bad tires, I just don't think they're that much of a cut above everyone else as their price would suggest for passenger tires.
As for rally tires...I have no idea. But I'm still scratching my head about the name change. :huh: :)
Does this make sense to anyone else?
-Biggly
| WagonMonster | 06-16-2005 12:46 PM |
Sure as hell doesn't make sense to me, unless they're somehow trying to appeal to Americans with this move :confused:
| DrBiggly | 06-16-2005 12:55 PM |
Most Americans will say Michelin > BFGoodrich so I dunno man. :confused:
In honesty, I didn't know they were sister companies.
In honesty, I didn't know they were sister companies.
| WagonMonster | 06-16-2005 01:04 PM |
But Michelin is made by those filthy frogs!
BF Goodrich is as American as apple pie and the SRT-4!
BF Goodrich is as American as apple pie and the SRT-4!
| DrBiggly | 06-16-2005 01:06 PM |
[QUOTE=WagonMonster]But Michelin is made by those filthy frogs!
BF Goodrich is as American as apple pie and the SRT-4![/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol:
Now that I know that the BF stands for "Blasted French!" then I won't be buying any of those tires either. :D
BF Goodrich is as American as apple pie and the SRT-4![/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol:
Now that I know that the BF stands for "Blasted French!" then I won't be buying any of those tires either. :D
| driggity | 06-16-2005 01:19 PM |
Well, like that article (or press release) says BF Goodrich is a huge name in Dakar, the Baja 500 and 1000, CORR, etc. In that regard I think it makes sense to get their off-road racing all under one umbrella.
| KC | 06-16-2005 01:41 PM |
They can save $$ from not having to advertise two different brands, that essentally compete against each other.
| WagonMonster | 06-16-2005 01:48 PM |
[QUOTE=KC]They can save $$ from not having to advertise two different brands, that essentally compete against each other.[/QUOTE]
I don't think they're killing Michelin entirely though.
I think they're just not going to put the "Michelin" name on Rally Tires.
So they will still have to advertise 2 brands.
I don't think they're killing Michelin entirely though.
I think they're just not going to put the "Michelin" name on Rally Tires.
So they will still have to advertise 2 brands.
| WRXedUSA | 06-16-2005 02:22 PM |
Thier idea makes sense, but there are a lot of details that will be hard to understand/swallow.
| Fogrider | 06-16-2005 02:23 PM |
Sounds like marketing has struck again. Bet there was a big pis*ing contest in the boardroom over this.
On another note related to rally tires from Michelin, how are you supposed to read the sizing information?
20/65-17 I figure is 17 inch rim? Is 65 the sidewall height? Is 20 short for what we sould call 200? Does this make these tires seem kinda narrow when applied to a tarmac environment?
thanks,
Fogrider
On another note related to rally tires from Michelin, how are you supposed to read the sizing information?
20/65-17 I figure is 17 inch rim? Is 65 the sidewall height? Is 20 short for what we sould call 200? Does this make these tires seem kinda narrow when applied to a tarmac environment?
thanks,
Fogrider
| fliz | 06-16-2005 02:34 PM |
Does this mean we'll see some cheap Michelin close-out rally tires?
I'd love me a set of these.
[img]http://com.en.sport.citroen.com/NR/rdonlyres/7B75BF8C-5C4C-462D-A104-31188CE4B446/0/82cc9f4ce97b4f18ad211f3bbd735a4a.jpg[/img]
I'd love me a set of these.
[img]http://com.en.sport.citroen.com/NR/rdonlyres/7B75BF8C-5C4C-462D-A104-31188CE4B446/0/82cc9f4ce97b4f18ad211f3bbd735a4a.jpg[/img]
| Mopho | 06-16-2005 02:38 PM |
*cough* John Buffum *cough*
John Buffum won many, many rallies on BF Goodrich tires back in the day
I have been invited to a BF Goodrich media reception tonight about this
John Buffum won many, many rallies on BF Goodrich tires back in the day
I have been invited to a BF Goodrich media reception tonight about this
| WagonMonster | 06-16-2005 02:39 PM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]*cough* John Buffum *cough*
John Buffum won many, many rallies on BF Goodrich tires back in the day
I have been invited to a BF Goodrich media reception tonight about this[/QUOTE]
Buddy!
Pal!
Homie!
;);)
John Buffum won many, many rallies on BF Goodrich tires back in the day
I have been invited to a BF Goodrich media reception tonight about this[/QUOTE]
Buddy!
Pal!
Homie!
;);)
| Mopho | 06-16-2005 02:42 PM |
[QUOTE=WagonMonster]Buddy!
Pal!
Homie!
;);)[/QUOTE]
Call me ;)
Pal!
Homie!
;);)[/QUOTE]
Call me ;)
| WagonMonster | 06-16-2005 02:45 PM |
Will do after lunch :D
| rallynutdon | 06-16-2005 03:11 PM |
[QUOTE=Fogrider]Sounds like marketing has struck again. Bet there was a big pis*ing contest in the boardroom over this.
On another note related to rally tires from Michelin, how are you supposed to read the sizing information?
20/65-17 I figure is 17 inch rim? Is 65 the sidewall height? Is 20 short for what we sould call 200? Does this make these tires seem kinda narrow when applied to a tarmac environment?
thanks,
Fogrider[/QUOTE]
20 is tire width in centimeters - 20 = 7.87 inches
65 is tire diameter (height) in centimeters - 65 = 25.59 inches
17 is rims size in inches
On another note related to rally tires from Michelin, how are you supposed to read the sizing information?
20/65-17 I figure is 17 inch rim? Is 65 the sidewall height? Is 20 short for what we sould call 200? Does this make these tires seem kinda narrow when applied to a tarmac environment?
thanks,
Fogrider[/QUOTE]
20 is tire width in centimeters - 20 = 7.87 inches
65 is tire diameter (height) in centimeters - 65 = 25.59 inches
17 is rims size in inches
| Fogrider | 06-16-2005 03:25 PM |
Thanks!
Fogrider
Fogrider
| JC_595 | 06-16-2005 03:59 PM |
Cool. This may actually help ralliests here inthe states, as I can get BFG racing/off road tires LOTS easier, locally, and at a discount.
I could only buy Michelin rally tires from out of state...
Cool.
I could only buy Michelin rally tires from out of state...
Cool.
| leaknoil | 06-16-2005 06:05 PM |
Citroen is leaving and with them the chances of being top tire in the WRC. 2006 will be all Subaru and Pirelli. If you think this year is a bit boring, next year will be a real sleeper. No reason to go smearing your brand name in the mud after finishing on top.
Hand it off to your 'other' brand and let them risk it with Ford and Mitsubishi. Sounds like sound business to me.
Hand it off to your 'other' brand and let them risk it with Ford and Mitsubishi. Sounds like sound business to me.
| johnfelstead | 06-16-2005 06:26 PM |
BF Goodridge in Europe = crap yanky tyres. ;)
It might make sense to the US market but it doesnt to a European, which is where most WRC interest is. As said i bet they had a big fight about this one. :D
It might make sense to the US market but it doesnt to a European, which is where most WRC interest is. As said i bet they had a big fight about this one. :D
| WagonMonster | 06-16-2005 06:43 PM |
[QUOTE=johnfelstead]BF Goodridge in Europe = crap yanky tyres. ;)
It might make sense to the US market but it doesnt to a European, which is where most WRC interest is. As said i bet they had a big fight about this one. :D[/QUOTE]
That's what I was trying to say.
BFG is seen as an American brand.
It might make sense to the US market but it doesnt to a European, which is where most WRC interest is. As said i bet they had a big fight about this one. :D[/QUOTE]
That's what I was trying to say.
BFG is seen as an American brand.
| Rallycarperson | 06-16-2005 08:32 PM |
BF Goodrich rally tires...just like the 80's. :cool:
-Mark
MAPmotors.com
-Mark
MAPmotors.com
| HomerJay | 06-16-2005 10:11 PM |
Looks like the French doesn't want any presence in the WRC. No more Michelin, no more peugot, no more citroen. Let's see if renault pulls out of the jwrc.
| Mopho | 06-16-2005 11:23 PM |
[QUOTE=Rallycarperson]BF Goodrich rally tires...just like the 80's. :cool:
-Mark
MAPmotors.com[/QUOTE]
How do you know, you were born in the 90's? :lol:
-Mark
MAPmotors.com[/QUOTE]
How do you know, you were born in the 90's? :lol:
| Mopho | 06-16-2005 11:38 PM |
Just came back from the press conference, they were pretty disappointed that the info leaked out on the internet before they could make their official US announcement. They will not be offering Rally tires in the US at least until 2007 as they are not prepared to construct the tires for the general market yet. They are doing this to give the BF Goodrich Brand a global presence. Michelin still will be in the background
Got cool swag though- an Ipod shuffle with a WRC logo on it!
Too bad you have a day job Wagonmonster :lol:
Got cool swag though- an Ipod shuffle with a WRC logo on it!
Too bad you have a day job Wagonmonster :lol:
| Recce01 | 06-17-2005 12:11 AM |
The official BFG announcement..
BFGoodrich Tires in the World Rally Championship from 2006
(Paris � June 16, 2005) � Starting from 2006, Michelin Group will pursue its technological and sporting involvement in World Rally Championship with its BFGoodrich Tires brand.
This commitment falls within the scope of BFGoodrich Tires� strong implication in the Rally Raid World Cup, in the Dakar Rally, as well as in numerous Northern-American competitions such as the SCORE Baja 1000.
The Michelin Group and Ford have the intention to continue their partnership in WRC for the next three years from 2006. BFGoodrich Tires will bring into this partnership their widespread racing experience and Michelin Group�s most up-to-date technology.
Car racing and motor sports in general form a key element of Michelin Group�s strategy. Having secured 36 World Rally Championship titles, Michelin brand continues to participate in closed circuit categories: Formula One, MotoGP and Endurance (Le Mans 24 Hours), while BFGoodrich Tires will spearhead the Group�s commitment in Rally Raid (Dakar) and on the World Rally Championship�s high variety of grounds.
BFGoodrich Tires in the World Rally Championship from 2006
(Paris � June 16, 2005) � Starting from 2006, Michelin Group will pursue its technological and sporting involvement in World Rally Championship with its BFGoodrich Tires brand.
This commitment falls within the scope of BFGoodrich Tires� strong implication in the Rally Raid World Cup, in the Dakar Rally, as well as in numerous Northern-American competitions such as the SCORE Baja 1000.
The Michelin Group and Ford have the intention to continue their partnership in WRC for the next three years from 2006. BFGoodrich Tires will bring into this partnership their widespread racing experience and Michelin Group�s most up-to-date technology.
Car racing and motor sports in general form a key element of Michelin Group�s strategy. Having secured 36 World Rally Championship titles, Michelin brand continues to participate in closed circuit categories: Formula One, MotoGP and Endurance (Le Mans 24 Hours), while BFGoodrich Tires will spearhead the Group�s commitment in Rally Raid (Dakar) and on the World Rally Championship�s high variety of grounds.
| Recce01 | 06-17-2005 12:12 AM |
stoked...the ipod shuffle is awesome....BFG, we love you!!
| WagonMonster | 06-17-2005 12:23 AM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]Just came back from the press conference, they were pretty disappointed that the info leaked out on the internet before they could make their official US announcement. They will not be offering Rally tires in the US at least until 2007 as they are not prepared to construct the tires for the general market yet. They are doing this to give the BF Goodrich Brand a global presence. Michelin still will be in the background
Got cool swag though- an Ipod shuffle with a WRC logo on it!
Too bad you have a day job Wagonmonster :lol:[/QUOTE]
You didn't get me one? :(
Got cool swag though- an Ipod shuffle with a WRC logo on it!
Too bad you have a day job Wagonmonster :lol:[/QUOTE]
You didn't get me one? :(
| Mopho | 06-17-2005 01:21 AM |
Nope! :alien:
| leaknoil | 06-17-2005 01:52 AM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]Just came back from the press conference, they were pretty disappointed that the info leaked out on the internet before they could make their official US announcement. They will not be offering Rally tires in the US at least until 2007 as they are not prepared to construct the tires for the general market yet. They are doing this to give the BF Goodrich Brand a global presence. Michelin still will be in the background
Got cool swag though- an Ipod shuffle with a WRC logo on it!
Too bad you have a day job Wagonmonster :lol:[/QUOTE]
Leaked ? Michelin sent me a press release under a BF Goodrich banner this morning on it. Guess they can't really get mad at the boss over 'leaking' it.
Got cool swag though- an Ipod shuffle with a WRC logo on it!
Too bad you have a day job Wagonmonster :lol:[/QUOTE]
Leaked ? Michelin sent me a press release under a BF Goodrich banner this morning on it. Guess they can't really get mad at the boss over 'leaking' it.
| Mopho | 06-17-2005 01:55 AM |
[QUOTE=leaknoil]Leaked ? Michelin sent me a press release under a BF Goodrich banner this morning on it. Guess they can't really get mad at the boss over 'leaking' it.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I got it too.
Apparently, Michelins press release was supposed to be confined to Europe but they forgot the internet is not confined to Europe :rolleyes:
Yes, I got it too.
Apparently, Michelins press release was supposed to be confined to Europe but they forgot the internet is not confined to Europe :rolleyes:
| WagonMonster | 06-17-2005 11:27 AM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]Yes, I got it too.
Apparently, Michelins press release was supposed to be confined to Europe but they forgot the internet is not confined to Europe :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I got the news off of a European Website :lol:
Apparently, Michelins press release was supposed to be confined to Europe but they forgot the internet is not confined to Europe :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I got the news off of a European Website :lol:
| Rallycarperson | 06-17-2005 09:15 PM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]How do you know, you were born in the 90's? :lol:[/QUOTE]
:lol: lol.
My dad used to rally on BF Goodrich's. :p
-Mark
MAPmotors.com
:lol: lol.
My dad used to rally on BF Goodrich's. :p
-Mark
MAPmotors.com
| Clavo | 06-17-2005 10:03 PM |
I hope its sooner than later
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If I can get a 17/65-16 BF Goodrich All-Terrain or Mud-Terrain it would be teh shizzle !11!1
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