| STAT1 | 01-12-2007 03:13 PM |
Possible to increase driver leg room?
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I am looking to buy a new 06 WRX (hopefully limited) this weekend if my guy pulls through and buys my truck. I am 100% in love with the car- my only (minor) concern is regarding legroom. I am 6�5� and feel that if the seat would move back another three or four inches it would be perfect. My question is, since I don�t think the front seat actually touches the back seat when it is fully pushed back, is it possible to somehow extend the distance it will push back until it is actually contacting the back seat?
| abosworth | 01-12-2007 03:16 PM |
[QUOTE=STAT1;16643380]I am looking to buy a new 06 WRX (hopefully limited) this weekend if my guy pulls through and buys my truck. I am 100% in love with the car- my only (minor) concern is regarding legroom. I am 6�5� and feel that if the seat would move back another three or four inches it would be perfect. My question is, since I don�t think the front seat actually touches the back seat when it is fully pushed back, is it possible to somehow extend the distance it will push back until it is actually contacting the back seat?[/QUOTE]
Have you actually sat in one? Just curious. 6'5" is tall but you should still have enough room. I haven't heard of anyone extending the track.
Have you actually sat in one? Just curious. 6'5" is tall but you should still have enough room. I haven't heard of anyone extending the track.
| Scoobypup | 01-12-2007 03:19 PM |
Another question would be, will your arms be able to reach the steering wheel if the seat is back that far? I'm 6'3" and if I position the seat to give me the most leg room, I can barely touch the wheel. I have found a happy medium so far, but there is minimal leg room either way.
But to answer your question, you'd either have to find some diff. rails that will work with the seat or modify them to mount further back. Dunno of any quick/easy way tho.
But to answer your question, you'd either have to find some diff. rails that will work with the seat or modify them to mount further back. Dunno of any quick/easy way tho.
| sweetrex | 01-12-2007 03:51 PM |
Keep in mind the body shape of the engineers who designed this car, as most of them are much, much shorter than you. If the legroom is a clincher as to whether you buy a subaru or not, check out a legacy gt. There is lots of room in one of those.
| jasonallenross | 01-12-2007 04:01 PM |
I'm 6'2" and I could never even contemplate moving the seat all the way back.
But then again, some people tell me I am "married" to the steering wheel. But when I get in to any car, I generally position the seat to have my wrists at 12:00 when I am sitting back in the seat, and have the ability to depress the clutch fully with my right foot. Anything further away than that and I feel too far away ....
This spacing also works for me with a helmet on, too.
But then again, some people tell me I am "married" to the steering wheel. But when I get in to any car, I generally position the seat to have my wrists at 12:00 when I am sitting back in the seat, and have the ability to depress the clutch fully with my right foot. Anything further away than that and I feel too far away ....
This spacing also works for me with a helmet on, too.
| BenWeavdog | 01-12-2007 04:07 PM |
I am 6'6, and as strange as it sounds, I recline the seat back slightly and make certain the track is back fully. also make sure the front ajustment is comfortable as well. a combination of the three seems to work.
I hate to say this, but the lancer evolution has more leg room than the Impreza. If it wasnt for the safety and side impact ratings, I would have gone that direction.
Also, I would avoid sun or moonroof equiped cars.
The transmission tunnel is lower in the Impreza than in the Legacy cars, and seems to be more comfortable leg room wise. (at least to me. I am big, but not lanky. 6'6, 325) I get fatiged fast in the legacy gt.
I hate to say this, but the lancer evolution has more leg room than the Impreza. If it wasnt for the safety and side impact ratings, I would have gone that direction.
Also, I would avoid sun or moonroof equiped cars.
The transmission tunnel is lower in the Impreza than in the Legacy cars, and seems to be more comfortable leg room wise. (at least to me. I am big, but not lanky. 6'6, 325) I get fatiged fast in the legacy gt.
| John__Gotti | 01-12-2007 05:04 PM |
You will fit, i'm also 6'5" about 240lbs and fit fine in my WRX. I do the same sort of thing as BenWeavdog does, slide seat all the way back then recline the seat about 2 notchs back. Also like said earlier don't even thing about getting a moon/sun roof, you will have a hard time fitting in there. They take about 2 inches of headroom away.
| X-Factor | 01-12-2007 08:28 PM |
Cut a hole in the roof.
| SwisSlesS | 01-12-2007 09:41 PM |
Simple solution: remove driver's seat, sit in back. Done.
| druxboyz | 01-12-2007 11:57 PM |
^^ lmao. i'm 5'9".. i wish i had your problem of being too tall..
| WRXjp93 | 01-13-2007 01:19 AM |
[QUOTE=druxboyz;16649061]^^ lmao. i'm 5'9".. i wish i had your problem of being too tall..[/QUOTE]
lol no you dont, i am 6' 3" and i feel like a midget in my car. im sure the newer subarus have more room though. mine is only a '93.
lol no you dont, i am 6' 3" and i feel like a midget in my car. im sure the newer subarus have more room though. mine is only a '93.
| BiggSean | 01-13-2007 01:32 AM |
Now I own a wagon, which is supposed to have slightly more room than a sedan, and i'm 6'10" 270. No complaints here :) If it works for me, then just about anybody can fit.
| skate enjoi | 01-13-2007 02:23 AM |
your tall /\/\
| sonycrr | 01-13-2007 04:45 AM |
im 5 10.. i put the seat all the way back. i wish the seat was lower and could move a little more back..
i like sitting with my legs almost fully extended and back strait up.. cant get that position with the wrx seats..
i like sitting with my legs almost fully extended and back strait up.. cant get that position with the wrx seats..
| engz | 01-13-2007 05:31 AM |
We have a lot of very tall members on this board. NASIOC basketball team gogog
| lasko | 01-13-2007 05:39 AM |
How do you real tall guys feel comfortable? I'm 6'1 225lbs.and the seats do not go far enough back for me.
| Portly | 01-13-2007 11:05 AM |
[QUOTE=BiggSean;16649764]Now I own a wagon, which is supposed to have slightly more room than a sedan, and i'm 6'10" 270. No complaints here :) If it works for me, then just about anybody can fit.[/QUOTE]
6'10" here as well, though I'm about 215....
I'd love it if the seat went back a little further in my wagon, but, as already mentioned by others, the steering wheel would be out of the range that I want it in. I prefer to be able to have a solid grip on the wheel with my arms reasonably bent.
End result: Legroom is not great for me, but I have yet to sit in ANY car where I had very good legroom, so I've learned to deal with it.
[QUOTE=SwisSlesS]Simple solution: remove driver's seat, sit in back. Done.[/QUOTE]
I know you think you're being cute and funny, but if I had a quarter for every time someone decided to pretend that this was an actual workable solution.... I believe "How's the weather up there?" is the only painfully-unoriginal expression I hear more than suggestions that I sit in the back seat.... (Unless one counts, "It sure must be great to be tall!" from all the people who have no idea how difficult it is to be 6'10" in a 5'8" world.)
_Jeff
6'10" here as well, though I'm about 215....
I'd love it if the seat went back a little further in my wagon, but, as already mentioned by others, the steering wheel would be out of the range that I want it in. I prefer to be able to have a solid grip on the wheel with my arms reasonably bent.
End result: Legroom is not great for me, but I have yet to sit in ANY car where I had very good legroom, so I've learned to deal with it.
[QUOTE=SwisSlesS]Simple solution: remove driver's seat, sit in back. Done.[/QUOTE]
I know you think you're being cute and funny, but if I had a quarter for every time someone decided to pretend that this was an actual workable solution.... I believe "How's the weather up there?" is the only painfully-unoriginal expression I hear more than suggestions that I sit in the back seat.... (Unless one counts, "It sure must be great to be tall!" from all the people who have no idea how difficult it is to be 6'10" in a 5'8" world.)
_Jeff
| Subaruski | 01-13-2007 11:38 AM |
im 6'3" and have the seat moved forward a couple clicks in my RS. I dont think you should have a problem.
| CarQz17 | 01-13-2007 12:15 PM |
solution....Gurney Bubble.
| 4wdrift | 01-13-2007 03:37 PM |
I found the problem to be, how far forward the steering wheel is positioned. If it telescoped out a bit, you could easily replace the seat rails and fit pefectly. I did not figure this out until I installed a racing wheel and quick release hub in the 99.
2 cents...
2 cents...
| Counterfit | 01-13-2007 06:06 PM |
[QUOTE=sonycrr;16650715]im 5 10.. i put the seat all the way back. i wish the seat was lower and could move a little more back..
i like sitting with my legs almost fully extended and back strait up.. cant get that position with the wrx seats..[/QUOTE]
I just a smidgen taller than you (say, half inch at most), and I also have my seat all the way down and back. No problem getting the clutch pedal down, and the steering wheel is perfectly in reach. Sometimes I think one of my ancestors in the last few centuries was a gorilla. :o
i like sitting with my legs almost fully extended and back strait up.. cant get that position with the wrx seats..[/QUOTE]
I just a smidgen taller than you (say, half inch at most), and I also have my seat all the way down and back. No problem getting the clutch pedal down, and the steering wheel is perfectly in reach. Sometimes I think one of my ancestors in the last few centuries was a gorilla. :o
| ruinthechurch | 01-14-2007 05:31 PM |
I'm 6'7 290 lbs, and I drive my 06 wagon with the seat all the way back and it reclined pretty far. you can see my head in the back window, but it's comfortable for me. I can drive it with the seat closer to the wheel, if need be.
| SwisSlesS | 01-14-2007 07:12 PM |
I'm a little over 6'2" and I have my seat at least 2 or 3 clicks away from fully back.
| PartsDept | 01-15-2007 10:15 PM |
I'm 6 foot 4 with a 34 inch inseam. I've been thinking about moving the seat back since the day I bought the car. With the seat all the way back and height adjusted to get it as far back as possible, I've got maybe 1/2" between the top of my knee and the front side of the steering wheel when I just touch the clutch pedal with my foot. This is with the steering wheel all the way up (and I still can't see the top of the tach).
It's easy if I slouch at all to get my knee into the wheel before the clutch is released fully. I lean my left leg toward the door to get it away from the steering wheel and approach the clutch pedal from an angle instead of straight on. The right knee has nearly clipped off the cruise control stalk several times. With my left foot resting flat on the dead pedal, my lower leg and upper leg are bent at maybe 70 degrees and the top of my knee is about 2" above the armrest switches. The car has great headroom but the legroom is lacking.
Has anyone tried sliding the seat forward to it's most forward position? It's ridiculous. You basically trap yourself against the steering wheel. It's hard to imagine someone small enough to drive the car with the seat all the way forward.
I spent a couple hours looking at the drivers seat recently. I didn't want to remove it from the car which made things a bit harder but I think I have a handle on the situation. I had originally planned to buy a set of stock frame rails and cut the floor to rail mounts off and move them forward 2" and weld them back on. This would require adding some material to extend the front of the rails.
While this will work, you'd need to make some kind of jig to hold the brackets at just the right angles and distances apart when you did the welding or else the modified seat tracks wouldn't line up with the holes in the floor. New seat tracks list at about $250 for a set. I have no other transportation so I can't take the car apart and try to modify the rails already in the car. I can't have more than a day or two of down time.
Another method would be to leave the rail to floor mounts alone and instead move the mounting points where the seat attaches to the rails. This is complicated by the fact that the seat has height adjustment and the mounts at the rear are a pivot point for some links that rotate quite a bit. You could either move the mounts on the top of the rails between the rails and the height mechanism rearward, or make some kind of plate to bolt to the seat base and provide new mounting holes for the upper part of the height adjustment mechanism. Either way it looks tough to do from my limited vantage point. There is a lot going on in a small amount of space.
I'll have to take the seat out sometime soon to get a better handle on the mounting between the height adjuster and the seat base.
It's easy if I slouch at all to get my knee into the wheel before the clutch is released fully. I lean my left leg toward the door to get it away from the steering wheel and approach the clutch pedal from an angle instead of straight on. The right knee has nearly clipped off the cruise control stalk several times. With my left foot resting flat on the dead pedal, my lower leg and upper leg are bent at maybe 70 degrees and the top of my knee is about 2" above the armrest switches. The car has great headroom but the legroom is lacking.
Has anyone tried sliding the seat forward to it's most forward position? It's ridiculous. You basically trap yourself against the steering wheel. It's hard to imagine someone small enough to drive the car with the seat all the way forward.
I spent a couple hours looking at the drivers seat recently. I didn't want to remove it from the car which made things a bit harder but I think I have a handle on the situation. I had originally planned to buy a set of stock frame rails and cut the floor to rail mounts off and move them forward 2" and weld them back on. This would require adding some material to extend the front of the rails.
While this will work, you'd need to make some kind of jig to hold the brackets at just the right angles and distances apart when you did the welding or else the modified seat tracks wouldn't line up with the holes in the floor. New seat tracks list at about $250 for a set. I have no other transportation so I can't take the car apart and try to modify the rails already in the car. I can't have more than a day or two of down time.
Another method would be to leave the rail to floor mounts alone and instead move the mounting points where the seat attaches to the rails. This is complicated by the fact that the seat has height adjustment and the mounts at the rear are a pivot point for some links that rotate quite a bit. You could either move the mounts on the top of the rails between the rails and the height mechanism rearward, or make some kind of plate to bolt to the seat base and provide new mounting holes for the upper part of the height adjustment mechanism. Either way it looks tough to do from my limited vantage point. There is a lot going on in a small amount of space.
I'll have to take the seat out sometime soon to get a better handle on the mounting between the height adjuster and the seat base.
| jason2004STI | 01-15-2007 10:37 PM |
My $0.02
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I'm 6'4" about 250lbs, and I actually pull the seat up a notch to get better pedal feel on the clutch.
Good Luck
Jason
Good Luck
Jason
| 2006WRX4ME | 01-16-2007 09:35 PM |
[quote=jason2004STI;16678049]I'm 6'4" about 250lbs, and I actually pull the seat up a notch to get better pedal feel on the clutch.
Jason[/quote]
Around the same size and I have a limited and fit well in it.
Jason[/quote]
Around the same size and I have a limited and fit well in it.
| HCW5733 | 01-16-2007 09:48 PM |
Yet another thing that might aid with us taller folks is the ability to buy an off the shelf solution so that the seat can be lowered just an inch more. It would also help if the steering wheel was telescopic.
| xrdriver | 01-17-2007 04:02 PM |
I'm 6'5" and about 250lbs with a 34" inseam. I don't have any complaints about leg room but then again my other 2 cars are Honda Civics :) Perhaps I am just used to smaller cars?
I wouldn't be able to get out if the driver's seat moved further back - I already find it frustrating enough to have to climb around the b-pillar to exit the car :mad:
My only complaint about the seat position is the height. I can't even use the passenger seat because it is so much higher than the driver's side.
I wouldn't be able to get out if the driver's seat moved further back - I already find it frustrating enough to have to climb around the b-pillar to exit the car :mad:
My only complaint about the seat position is the height. I can't even use the passenger seat because it is so much higher than the driver's side.
| Calamity Jesus | 01-17-2007 04:37 PM |
[QUOTE=4wdrift;16653781]I found the problem to be, how far forward the steering wheel is positioned. If it telescoped out a bit, you could easily replace the seat rails and fit pefectly.[/QUOTE]The upcoming Legacy refresh is supposed to include a telescopic steering column. Perhaps we'll be lucky enough to have one in the '08 Impreza as well. :alien:
[QUOTE=SwisSlesS;16663710]I'm a little over 6'2" and I have my seat at least 2 or 3 clicks away from fully back.[/QUOTE]
+1 And the seat-back one or two notches from fully vertical... except for at an autocross where I have to lean way back in order to keep my neck straight. Stupid sunroof.:mad:
[QUOTE=SwisSlesS;16663710]I'm a little over 6'2" and I have my seat at least 2 or 3 clicks away from fully back.[/QUOTE]
+1 And the seat-back one or two notches from fully vertical... except for at an autocross where I have to lean way back in order to keep my neck straight. Stupid sunroof.:mad:
| Fred Fredburger | 01-17-2007 04:52 PM |
[quote=Portly;16651770]6'10" here as well, though I'm about 215....[/quote]
I just had to laugh when I saw the username of the 6'10", 215# member. If I saw you get out of your car in CR I wouldn't automatically think, "Oh, that must be [I]Portly[/I]."
I just had to laugh when I saw the username of the 6'10", 215# member. If I saw you get out of your car in CR I wouldn't automatically think, "Oh, that must be [I]Portly[/I]."
| ColesSTi | 01-17-2007 04:59 PM |
Any one know about the HKS set rails on japan parts would this help at all?
| xrdriver | 01-17-2007 05:08 PM |
[QUOTE=ColesSTi;16704020]Any one know about the HKS set rails on japan parts would this help at all?[/QUOTE]
I don't know about distance from the dash but the height would certainly help. Too bad they are over $200 a piece or I would have a pair :mad:
Are there any other options to lower seat rails? There was mention of some from Signal Auto but I never found them.
I don't know about distance from the dash but the height would certainly help. Too bad they are over $200 a piece or I would have a pair :mad:
Are there any other options to lower seat rails? There was mention of some from Signal Auto but I never found them.
| ColesSTi | 01-17-2007 05:38 PM |
I would like a set my self, a lot. I know on the passenger side If you where to move the computer you gain over a half of a foot of leg room. To make the driver seat level with the pessenger it is four pulls up from all the way down. I guess you would want both HKS rails but, I might try buying the drivers seat rail first.
| epaplia | 01-17-2007 05:39 PM |
What do you people eat???????????
6'10" OMG
6'10" OMG
| VR4Impreza | 01-17-2007 06:35 PM |
just my $.02
6'3 180 here.
I have an 05 RS and sit with the seat all the way back and tilted a little. I don't think you would have much problem, but that depends on how you feel comfortable. If I move the seat up a click and lean the seat up I can drive comfortable (usually for long distances as this is what I have to do to get someonne in the back seat)
You should also consider that the car was designed for the seat to be extended the max length. Adding a couple inches would put your head behind the pillar. I'm sure that would hurt in a side impact, and I GUARANTEE your insurance company wouldn't pay a cent if you got hurt.
Ultimately you will know if it's comfortable, I woud suggest explaining this to the dealership and getting an extended test drive or keep it for a weekend.
6'3 180 here.
I have an 05 RS and sit with the seat all the way back and tilted a little. I don't think you would have much problem, but that depends on how you feel comfortable. If I move the seat up a click and lean the seat up I can drive comfortable (usually for long distances as this is what I have to do to get someonne in the back seat)
You should also consider that the car was designed for the seat to be extended the max length. Adding a couple inches would put your head behind the pillar. I'm sure that would hurt in a side impact, and I GUARANTEE your insurance company wouldn't pay a cent if you got hurt.
Ultimately you will know if it's comfortable, I woud suggest explaining this to the dealership and getting an extended test drive or keep it for a weekend.
| eld4au6 | 01-17-2007 11:13 PM |
[QUOTE=epaplia;16704686]What do you people eat???????????
6'10" OMG[/QUOTE]
thinking the same thing:huh:
<---- 5'9 125 :mad:
6'10" OMG[/QUOTE]
thinking the same thing:huh:
<---- 5'9 125 :mad:
| thatoneguy_____ | 01-18-2007 12:32 AM |
i have never ever ever in my life had this problem. you guys are lucky. im 5'7" and had to use a booster chair till i was 12.
| stoney98 | 01-18-2007 09:39 AM |
I'm 6'4" and I am actually 3-5 clicks from th back, but then again, I like to have a bent knee so I can move my feet around faster.
| Portly | 01-18-2007 12:35 PM |
[QUOTE=Fred Fredburger;16703885]I just had to laugh when I saw the username of the 6'10", 215# member. If I saw you get out of your car in CR I wouldn't automatically think, "Oh, that must be [I]Portly[/I]."[/QUOTE]
The "Portly" nickname has been a bit of a joke for many years - I'm currently anything but portly. :)
_Jeff
The "Portly" nickname has been a bit of a joke for many years - I'm currently anything but portly. :)
_Jeff
| Hokie-wrx wagon | 01-18-2007 12:59 PM |
6'5" here and I have the seat up a few clicks. Plenty of room.
| 2mprzya | 01-18-2007 01:12 PM |
[QUOTE=SwisSlesS;16647939]Simple solution: remove driver's seat, sit in back. Done.[/QUOTE]
all i can think of is hightower from police acedemy
all i can think of is hightower from police acedemy
| e11ys | 01-18-2007 01:15 PM |
If someone mass manufactured some extended seat rails for our cars and sold them on here, they'd make a killing. There are many tall drivers (myself included) that would gladly pay for a few extra inches of leg room. Just an idea....
| Big-E | 01-18-2007 01:35 PM |
I'm 6'3", 196lbs, 34" inseam and I have a "tall" torso.
I keep the seat all the way back and that is perfect for my legs, I keep the seat in the downward most position and I have the back reclined about 10-15 degrees.
My head just barely misses the headliner (no sunroof in a regular WRX), I sit parallel to the B-Pillar, and my arms are almost extended straight to the steering wheel. For me, I am completely comfortable.
I've been asked by several as to how I fit in the car.
My main criteria to the salesman when I test drove the car was "I have to fit and feel comfortable".
I wouldn't modify the seat rails only because of the air-bags in the seats. But this is my opinion.
I keep the seat all the way back and that is perfect for my legs, I keep the seat in the downward most position and I have the back reclined about 10-15 degrees.
My head just barely misses the headliner (no sunroof in a regular WRX), I sit parallel to the B-Pillar, and my arms are almost extended straight to the steering wheel. For me, I am completely comfortable.
I've been asked by several as to how I fit in the car.
My main criteria to the salesman when I test drove the car was "I have to fit and feel comfortable".
I wouldn't modify the seat rails only because of the air-bags in the seats. But this is my opinion.
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