| gotsol | 08-22-2002 09:08 AM |
Project Cone Basher trashed!!!
[URL=http://pub52.ezboard.com/fgrassrootsmotorsportsfrm0.showMessage?topicID=4274.topic]Cobb Tunning WRX wreck[/URL]
Did anyone else see this?
Did anyone else see this?
| Orion | 08-22-2002 09:25 AM |
Yes, but we here in Texas don't like to talk about it.:( I didn't have the heart to talk to Chris about it at our Divisional in Houston 2 weeks ago.
On the bright side, Conebasher will be back on the road soon!
On the bright side, Conebasher will be back on the road soon!
| TimStevens | 08-22-2002 11:30 AM |
Hadn't heard that... a big :monkey: to Sport Compact Car.
-tim
-tim
| elgorey | 08-22-2002 01:12 PM |
link doesnt work. details? Did SCC wreck the car?
| TimStevens | 08-22-2002 01:20 PM |
Link works for me :confused:
The gist of the story is Cobb brought the car for an AWD shootout being set up by SCC. I guess there was an Evo there and some Skylines and Audi's and whatnot. Anyhow, unexperienced driver #9 from SCC gets out there and tries to throw the car into a corner and winds up driving into a water truck.
Fantabulous...
The gist of the story is Cobb brought the car for an AWD shootout being set up by SCC. I guess there was an Evo there and some Skylines and Audi's and whatnot. Anyhow, unexperienced driver #9 from SCC gets out there and tries to throw the car into a corner and winds up driving into a water truck.
Fantabulous...
| gotsol | 08-22-2002 01:39 PM |
This story makes me want to puke!
| elgorey | 08-22-2002 01:50 PM |
:monkey: :monkey: :monkey: SCC
I stopped reading SCC a few months ago becuase the content took a sharp downward plunge, no doubt due to the new editor.
Now their downfall is complete, SCC is just another crap car mag.
SCC has become worse than Super Street, Turbo, etc.
at least those mags [i]know[/i] they cant drive and dont try to pull crap like this.
I will never buy another SCC in my life. Clueless morons.
I stopped reading SCC a few months ago becuase the content took a sharp downward plunge, no doubt due to the new editor.
Now their downfall is complete, SCC is just another crap car mag.
SCC has become worse than Super Street, Turbo, etc.
at least those mags [i]know[/i] they cant drive and dont try to pull crap like this.
I will never buy another SCC in my life. Clueless morons.
| Thug | 08-22-2002 02:10 PM |
My subscription to SCC lapsed over 2 years ago and I havent even thought about going back. It just got plain bad.
| cobb.marketing | 08-22-2002 02:25 PM |
Open letter of appreciation
To all,
We at COBB appreciates everybody's concern about our yellow WRX Street Mod contender: Conebasher. We are in the process of putting it back together and we are quite confident that the car will be ready for the nationals, barring any unexpected obstacles.
The accident that occurred during testing was just that, an accident. Even though we're disappointed that Conebasher will be out of service for awhile, looking at the positives, this allowed us to make even more modifications and improvements on the car in time for the nationals. We harbor no hard feelings nor do we place any blame on anybody. True, it sucked, but we were all proud at the performance in the face of world-class cars. More importantly, we were very glad that nobody was hurt as a result of this accident.
Don't worry folks, like the Six Million Dollar Man, Conebasher will be faster, stronger, more agile. Watch out everybody, the domination of Conebasher is not complete. See you guys at the Nationals!
thank you, thank you , thank you,
the entire COBB crew
We at COBB appreciates everybody's concern about our yellow WRX Street Mod contender: Conebasher. We are in the process of putting it back together and we are quite confident that the car will be ready for the nationals, barring any unexpected obstacles.
The accident that occurred during testing was just that, an accident. Even though we're disappointed that Conebasher will be out of service for awhile, looking at the positives, this allowed us to make even more modifications and improvements on the car in time for the nationals. We harbor no hard feelings nor do we place any blame on anybody. True, it sucked, but we were all proud at the performance in the face of world-class cars. More importantly, we were very glad that nobody was hurt as a result of this accident.
Don't worry folks, like the Six Million Dollar Man, Conebasher will be faster, stronger, more agile. Watch out everybody, the domination of Conebasher is not complete. See you guys at the Nationals!
thank you, thank you , thank you,
the entire COBB crew
| KC | 08-22-2002 03:31 PM |
Sad to hear what happened, good to hear you guys aren't ballistic and actually see the positive side of things. :)
See youse guyses (As they say in Fawl Rivuh) at Nationals.
--KC
See youse guyses (As they say in Fawl Rivuh) at Nationals.
--KC
| gotsol | 08-22-2002 04:13 PM |
how was it running before the accident against the competition?
| WagonMonster | 08-22-2002 05:06 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by TimStevens [/i]
[B]Anyhow, unexperienced driver #9 from SCC gets out there and tries to throw the car into a corner and winds up driving into a water truck.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Actually, the guy who was driving the car IS an experienced driver, you and the GRM forum are incorrect.
[B]Anyhow, unexperienced driver #9 from SCC gets out there and tries to throw the car into a corner and winds up driving into a water truck.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Actually, the guy who was driving the car IS an experienced driver, you and the GRM forum are incorrect.
| TimStevens | 08-22-2002 05:37 PM |
Just going with what the other post said... so exactly whom was driving the car, then?
| WagonMonster | 08-22-2002 05:39 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by TimStevens [/i]
[B]Just going with what the other post said... so exactly whom was driving the car, then? [/B][/QUOTE]
I really can't say, sorry
[B]Just going with what the other post said... so exactly whom was driving the car, then? [/B][/QUOTE]
I really can't say, sorry
| TimStevens | 08-22-2002 05:59 PM |
Seems to be a whole lot of unnecessary mystery surrounding this. Oh well... in lieu of other evidence, don't see why we should assume the GRM post isn't at least close to the truth.
| WagonMonster | 08-22-2002 06:07 PM |
I know the guy who wrecked the car, he feels like crap about it.
But I'm not telling
But I'm not telling
| TimStevens | 08-22-2002 06:09 PM |
Completely understandable, but why the need for all the secrecy?
| WagonMonster | 08-22-2002 06:13 PM |
Because if he wants to tell everyone, he can, but I'm not going to, that's all
| TimStevens | 08-22-2002 06:15 PM |
Also understandable.
| johnfelstead | 08-22-2002 06:16 PM |
why the need to know. If they dont want to say it's their perogotive surely.
**** happens.
The question i always have when things like this happen is how was it possible to hit a stationary object like a water truck on a course? Thats where the minds should concentrate, make it safer next time if possible.
Oh, and rebuild the car faster than before, crashes are always an oportunity to improve. ;)
**** happens.
The question i always have when things like this happen is how was it possible to hit a stationary object like a water truck on a course? Thats where the minds should concentrate, make it safer next time if possible.
Oh, and rebuild the car faster than before, crashes are always an oportunity to improve. ;)
| TimStevens | 08-22-2002 06:24 PM |
It is their perogative, but I've seen other magazines crash test cars before and have seen them fess up to it quite honestly. Sure, I'll bet it's happened quite a bit more frequently than it has been reported, but still...
Anyhow, I'll shut up now. Good luck getting the car back together again.
Anyhow, I'll shut up now. Good luck getting the car back together again.
| FlooredSubaru | 08-22-2002 07:46 PM |
I just love how many opinons you can find on the internet.
But here's mine.
I love racing, And i in no form am a good driver but i'm working on it.
But why do people have to down on everything. I have put my subie into a guard rail becouse i was trying to show off in the snow. and i paid for it. that doesn't mean that a mag that wreaks a car is a bad mag.
I love SCC becouse they have racing cars in there. not all show cars with hugh sub woofers in them(not that subs are bad)
And SCC has the BEST coverage of Rally with out spending $10 a issue of Rally-XS.
But i think i'm going to get GRM mag soon.
And in the end are car magizines just for adds and looking at car pictures.
Sucks the car got wreaked, but its good no one got hurt, and its cool that the car gets to be faster i hope to see the car in real life.
FlooredSubaru
Erik S.
But here's mine.
I love racing, And i in no form am a good driver but i'm working on it.
But why do people have to down on everything. I have put my subie into a guard rail becouse i was trying to show off in the snow. and i paid for it. that doesn't mean that a mag that wreaks a car is a bad mag.
I love SCC becouse they have racing cars in there. not all show cars with hugh sub woofers in them(not that subs are bad)
And SCC has the BEST coverage of Rally with out spending $10 a issue of Rally-XS.
But i think i'm going to get GRM mag soon.
And in the end are car magizines just for adds and looking at car pictures.
Sucks the car got wreaked, but its good no one got hurt, and its cool that the car gets to be faster i hope to see the car in real life.
FlooredSubaru
Erik S.
| TimStevens | 08-22-2002 08:49 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by FlooredSubaru [/i]
[B]And in the end are car magizines just for adds and looking at car pictures.[/B][/QUOTE]
SCC is definitely for you then. Don't bother with the GRM subscription, it's all about the content, moreso than the pictures.
-tim
[B]And in the end are car magizines just for adds and looking at car pictures.[/B][/QUOTE]
SCC is definitely for you then. Don't bother with the GRM subscription, it's all about the content, moreso than the pictures.
-tim
| Chunky_Chicken | 08-24-2002 01:11 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by FlooredSubaru [/i]
[B]But why do people have to down on everything. I have put my subie into a guard rail becouse i was trying to show off in the snow. and i paid for it. that doesn't mean that a mag that wreaks a car is a bad mag.[/B][/QUOTE]
Absolutely! If there's one thing I've picked up from the motorsports crowd (any forum, any car) its that the more amature you get, the more driving becomes a pissing contest. When its friendly competition its great (sure shiit happens but thats part of the deal), but when people start getting down on others when they make a mistake,...its just stupid.
Take a look at some of the more experienced motorsports members, and other pro motorsports people, they don't come down on people. Take a look at COBB's response. That is a professional race team that has long since realized throwing blame and putting others down won't get them ahead. The only attitude thats gonna get that car back together is a positive one. I think they've already acomplished alot just with that statement... course there's alot of sleepless nights ahead.. but thats racing.
-Pete
[B]But why do people have to down on everything. I have put my subie into a guard rail becouse i was trying to show off in the snow. and i paid for it. that doesn't mean that a mag that wreaks a car is a bad mag.[/B][/QUOTE]
Absolutely! If there's one thing I've picked up from the motorsports crowd (any forum, any car) its that the more amature you get, the more driving becomes a pissing contest. When its friendly competition its great (sure shiit happens but thats part of the deal), but when people start getting down on others when they make a mistake,...its just stupid.
Take a look at some of the more experienced motorsports members, and other pro motorsports people, they don't come down on people. Take a look at COBB's response. That is a professional race team that has long since realized throwing blame and putting others down won't get them ahead. The only attitude thats gonna get that car back together is a positive one. I think they've already acomplished alot just with that statement... course there's alot of sleepless nights ahead.. but thats racing.
-Pete
| FlooredSubaru | 08-26-2002 12:53 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by TimStevens [/i]
[B]
SCC is definitely for you then. Don't bother with the GRM subscription, it's all about the content, moreso than the pictures.
-tim [/B][/QUOTE]
but with out adds... How will i know what to buy?
:confused: Flooredsubaru
P.s. i have sense tryed to stop the pissing contests...
[B]
SCC is definitely for you then. Don't bother with the GRM subscription, it's all about the content, moreso than the pictures.
-tim [/B][/QUOTE]
but with out adds... How will i know what to buy?
:confused: Flooredsubaru
P.s. i have sense tryed to stop the pissing contests...
| TimStevens | 08-26-2002 08:11 AM |
Plenty of people demoing altezzas and such in the dress-up forum. You don't need SCC for that ;)
| Peaty | 09-12-2002 11:09 AM |
I saw the car Tuesday at the Nationals and it's back together...
[IMG]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid31/p562539b488013e27adeb4a115197cd44/fd491d92.jpg[/IMG]
More pics of the Nationals here:
[url]http://www.imagestation.com/members/Peaty[/url]
[IMG]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid31/p562539b488013e27adeb4a115197cd44/fd491d92.jpg[/IMG]
More pics of the Nationals here:
[url]http://www.imagestation.com/members/Peaty[/url]
| elgorey | 09-12-2002 12:57 PM |
edit: my mistake. the results I looked at only showed the trophies. The conebasher got 12th place, which was the final trophy
| Marcin | 02-14-2003 07:40 PM |
If you notice the SCC results, conebasher was leading the rest in every test until it got wrecked :p
| Tats | 02-14-2003 07:59 PM |
which issue wasw that?
Tats.
Tats.
| Orion | 02-14-2003 10:02 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Tats [/i]
[B]which issue wasw that?
Tats. [/B][/QUOTE]
The latest. Should be on shelves soon.
[B]which issue wasw that?
Tats. [/B][/QUOTE]
The latest. Should be on shelves soon.
| dallas_wrx_blue | 02-15-2003 12:52 PM |
it's on the april issue.
| PPower | 02-15-2003 03:49 PM |
I understood that the accident was that they were trying to get Conebasher into a drift around the skidpad for the photo shoot. It slid over and hit a patch of dry pavement (or not super wet anyway) which shot it like a bullet into the water truck when it got traction. Given that scenario, I can see how one could hit a stationary object. This is what was told to me back in August right after it happened.
| Peaty | 02-15-2003 04:44 PM |
My copy came in the mail today :)
| C-daleRidr | 02-18-2003 03:25 PM |
I'm really still trying to figure out why a truck was parked close enough to the track to have this happen to anyone, but maybe I'm just naive.
| elgorey | 02-18-2003 08:45 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by C-daleRidr [/i]
[B]I'm really still trying to figure out why a truck was parked close enough to the track to have this happen to anyone, but maybe I'm just naive. [/B][/QUOTE]
sounds like because they were wetting the track down for a super dramatic [i]dorifto![/i] cover shot :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I cant believe you guys actually read that craptacular ryceboi mag
[B]I'm really still trying to figure out why a truck was parked close enough to the track to have this happen to anyone, but maybe I'm just naive. [/B][/QUOTE]
sounds like because they were wetting the track down for a super dramatic [i]dorifto![/i] cover shot :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I cant believe you guys actually read that craptacular ryceboi mag
| Petrie | 02-18-2003 11:19 PM |
I would like to recognize the people at Cobb for showing themselves to be a class act. Well done.
| Kevin Thomas | 02-25-2003 07:33 PM |
Question
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by C-daleRidr [/i]
[B]I'm really still trying to figure out why a truck was parked close enough to the track to have this happen to anyone, but maybe I'm just naive. [/B][/QUOTE]
What's so bad about SCC? Or...what could be better about it? My issue came in yesterday and this is the first I've read about Project Conebasher crashing. :( I was really looking forward to seeing how it would do in the 1/4 mile even if it is built for the autox.
Since the car has been rebuilt, has it done any 1/4 mile runs? If so, what was the best thusfar?
[B]I'm really still trying to figure out why a truck was parked close enough to the track to have this happen to anyone, but maybe I'm just naive. [/B][/QUOTE]
What's so bad about SCC? Or...what could be better about it? My issue came in yesterday and this is the first I've read about Project Conebasher crashing. :( I was really looking forward to seeing how it would do in the 1/4 mile even if it is built for the autox.
Since the car has been rebuilt, has it done any 1/4 mile runs? If so, what was the best thusfar?
| PPower | 02-25-2003 08:17 PM |
The truck probably had to be by there to keep wetting the track so often. Weren't they in the desert where low humidity and heat tends to dry things quickly? :rolleyes: I'm sure they needed to be soaking it frequently, and maybe the dry patch was from them not having it wet enough. None of us truly know (or may know but not saying), so it doesn't really matter. If Chris, Trey, and all the others thought it looked unsafe, they probably would have tried to get them to move the truck themselves. Don't you think?
| BOY | 02-26-2003 03:12 PM |
Remeber also that the car runs on Kuhmo's largest DOT R-compound tire... not the best for wet anything. If you look at the article it makes several references to Conebasher's mediocre performance in the wet sections of the road course. I'd love to see what it could do in the 1/4 and braking. I did have had the priveledge of driving it many moons ago but it had an RS (you heard me, RS) tranny in it and it was grossly de-tuned for street duty... even so it was the most rediculous fun I've ever had.
| elgorey | 02-26-2003 03:15 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PPower [/i]
[B]If Chris, Trey, and all the others thought it looked unsafe, they probably would have tried to get them to move the truck themselves. Don't you think? [/B][/QUOTE]
Chris and Trey wanted to drive the car themselves, but the SCC assclown editors wouldnt let them.
[B]If Chris, Trey, and all the others thought it looked unsafe, they probably would have tried to get them to move the truck themselves. Don't you think? [/B][/QUOTE]
Chris and Trey wanted to drive the car themselves, but the SCC assclown editors wouldnt let them.
| BOY | 02-26-2003 03:17 PM |
Cause Chris is too damn good a driver ;)
| C-daleRidr | 02-26-2003 05:27 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by elgorey [/i]
[B]
sounds like because they were wetting the track down for a super dramatic [i]dorifto![/i] cover shot :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I cant believe you guys actually read that craptacular ryceboi mag [/B][/QUOTE]
I can't believe that you would walk by it in a book store with Conebasher on the front and not thumb through it. :rolleyes:
[B]
sounds like because they were wetting the track down for a super dramatic [i]dorifto![/i] cover shot :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I cant believe you guys actually read that craptacular ryceboi mag [/B][/QUOTE]
I can't believe that you would walk by it in a book store with Conebasher on the front and not thumb through it. :rolleyes:
| KC | 02-26-2003 05:30 PM |
Well besides the fact the car is not set-up to 'drift' I think it was a very poor judgement call on behalf of SCC to attempt something like that.
--kC
--kC
| Ru fan | 02-26-2003 07:15 PM |
Has anybody noticed how SCC seems be geared toward 10 year olds? They write like they are a buch of kids passing notes in study hall. Just waiting for them to change the name from SCC to "Me Go Fast Now", or maybe "Look at Me and My Car, Cuz I Don't Get Enough Attention".
I will stick with the more adult GRM, because any fool can go fast in a straight line.
Later,
Seth E.:alien:
I will stick with the more adult GRM, because any fool can go fast in a straight line.
Later,
Seth E.:alien:
| Tats | 02-26-2003 08:08 PM |
****....It could be worse...ala import tuner or super street.
Tats.
Tats.
| BOY | 02-27-2003 09:05 AM |
Call me crazy but I actually like where SCC is going. Every issue has coverage (albeit terribly old coverage) of a rally, USTCC, etc event. The tech articles are getting better, the articles in general are getting better... sure its still geared toward "Joe Schmoe" street racer but they're the people who pay the bills. GRM is a bit much to swallow for people who aren't hardcore racers. Now Super Street, Turbo, Import Tuner, and the especially the endless array of new T&A&cars magazines are just there for eye candy.
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