| Grintch | 07-15-2004 11:35 AM |
SCCA Classing and Influence
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After being in the SCCA for a year (thanks to Subaru for the free member ship), it appears to me that the SCCA seems biased against turbo and AWD cars. It also seems that cars with a big member base (Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, Miata) tend to get good classing because of that large member base.
Question - since Subaru is giving out free memberships when you buy a WRX or STi, should we try to organize those new members into a voting block to favorably influence SCCA decision making (i.e. kill no AWD in STS proposal, move STi to BSP even before it wins a national in ESP, etc.)? Rock the Vote!
Question - since Subaru is giving out free memberships when you buy a WRX or STi, should we try to organize those new members into a voting block to favorably influence SCCA decision making (i.e. kill no AWD in STS proposal, move STi to BSP even before it wins a national in ESP, etc.)? Rock the Vote!
| trhoppe | 07-15-2004 11:46 AM |
Nope and Nope.
AWD Turbo cars (especially Subarus) are all VERY favorably classed in SCCA [b]AUTOX[/b]
STi = good in AS
2.5RS = ProSolo car in GS
Impreza L = Trophy capable and more in HS
STi = doesn't belong in ESP, and yet its there
WRX = can win in ESP if someone runs one (after the Sti is out)
WRX = ProSolo car and winner in Solo2 (unless a prepped and driven M3 comes out)
2.5RS = STS car for ProSolos and doesn't suck in Solo2
It has just as many classes it can win the the corvette, SS, AS, ASP, BSP ;)
-Tom
AWD Turbo cars (especially Subarus) are all VERY favorably classed in SCCA [b]AUTOX[/b]
STi = good in AS
2.5RS = ProSolo car in GS
Impreza L = Trophy capable and more in HS
STi = doesn't belong in ESP, and yet its there
WRX = can win in ESP if someone runs one (after the Sti is out)
WRX = ProSolo car and winner in Solo2 (unless a prepped and driven M3 comes out)
2.5RS = STS car for ProSolos and doesn't suck in Solo2
It has just as many classes it can win the the corvette, SS, AS, ASP, BSP ;)
-Tom
| thechickencow | 07-15-2004 11:49 AM |
I think they should just change the class name of STX to WRX.
| del105 | 07-15-2004 12:29 PM |
I still think it is to early to tell with the STi. AS is ok I guess I'd prefer BS. The 245 limit on AWD cars in STU is bunk, along with the a ****ty pax. STU really favors cars like the E36 m3. As far as SP classes go it should be in BSP all the way. I'm positive a fully SP prepped STi will be a great fit in BSP.
| trhoppe | 07-15-2004 01:01 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by del105[/i]
[B] I still think it is to early to tell with the STi. AS is ok I guess I'd prefer BS. The 245 limit on AWD cars in STU is bunk, along with the a ****ty pax. STU really favors cars like the E36 m3. As far as SP classes go it should be in BSP all the way. I'm positive a fully SP prepped STi will be a great fit in BSP. [/B][/QUOTE]
It would be too fast for BS. Larry is at the top of AS with NO development in that car. Imagine what that car would do with real shocks, real bar, and Hoosiers!
245 limit on STU is the only way to make the class competitive. The STi would destroy an M3 with the same tires. The PAX has to be that way as its the first year of the class. Its not even a "real" class yet.
If you think the STi works in BSP you haven't seen a real BSP car :) The west coast BSP corvettes are scary. They are 2 seconds faster then the east coast BSP cars.
-Tom
Not opinionated ;)
[B] I still think it is to early to tell with the STi. AS is ok I guess I'd prefer BS. The 245 limit on AWD cars in STU is bunk, along with the a ****ty pax. STU really favors cars like the E36 m3. As far as SP classes go it should be in BSP all the way. I'm positive a fully SP prepped STi will be a great fit in BSP. [/B][/QUOTE]
It would be too fast for BS. Larry is at the top of AS with NO development in that car. Imagine what that car would do with real shocks, real bar, and Hoosiers!
245 limit on STU is the only way to make the class competitive. The STi would destroy an M3 with the same tires. The PAX has to be that way as its the first year of the class. Its not even a "real" class yet.
If you think the STi works in BSP you haven't seen a real BSP car :) The west coast BSP corvettes are scary. They are 2 seconds faster then the east coast BSP cars.
-Tom
Not opinionated ;)
| cooleyjb | 07-15-2004 02:27 PM |
The only sketchy WRX classing is DS in my opinion. The new SRT-4 is pretty nice with all the power and bigger tires. As are teh BMW's. However most of the serious WRX drivers are in STX and such so I'd be curious to see how they would run a full DS car.
joe
i just got me some Tein RA's
bye bye DS Hello STX
joe
i just got me some Tein RA's
bye bye DS Hello STX
| trhoppe | 07-15-2004 02:41 PM |
Oh yea, I totally forgot about the WRX in DS, where it can win all the Pros it enters and IMHO win the tours as well :)
-Tom
-Tom
| ChrisDP | 07-15-2004 02:52 PM |
Kinda surprised nobody tried REALLY setting up an '04 WRX... The stiffer springs I think could really be beneficial against the '02-'03. The lack of S04s/710s in the "short" size hurts though.
| cooleyjb | 07-15-2004 03:12 PM |
just curious
who is running DS WRX nationally. and what is their setup.
Looking at oscoda results the DS winner ran 65.597 in a BMW 330
whereas tom in STX ran a 65.563
I have a tough time believing that a stock WRX with R compounds is going to run the same time as tom in his 'tweaked' WRX
Also looking at other results
The Atlanta ProSolo where both Mike King, Tom, Keith ran 61,61,62 respectively in STX. Fastest DS WRX 68.2 wining DS time was 64.6 in an Integra Type R.
Now these results show to me one of two things.
The WRX is just a little outclassed in DS or noone is seriously campaigning them in DS.
joe
who is running DS WRX nationally. and what is their setup.
Looking at oscoda results the DS winner ran 65.597 in a BMW 330
whereas tom in STX ran a 65.563
I have a tough time believing that a stock WRX with R compounds is going to run the same time as tom in his 'tweaked' WRX
Also looking at other results
The Atlanta ProSolo where both Mike King, Tom, Keith ran 61,61,62 respectively in STX. Fastest DS WRX 68.2 wining DS time was 64.6 in an Integra Type R.
Now these results show to me one of two things.
The WRX is just a little outclassed in DS or noone is seriously campaigning them in DS.
joe
| KC | 07-15-2004 03:26 PM |
Sure, STX cars may be TWEAKED but there's something to be said for R-Compounds. :)
DS and STX pax are really close to each other showing they should be very similar perfomance and times.
It also rained at the Atlanta Pro, so times will be a bit off.
--kC
DS and STX pax are really close to each other showing they should be very similar perfomance and times.
It also rained at the Atlanta Pro, so times will be a bit off.
--kC
| del105 | 07-15-2004 03:31 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe [/i]
[B]It would be too fast for BS. Larry is at the top of AS with NO development in that car. Imagine what that car would do with real shocks, real bar, and Hoosiers!
245 limit on STU is the only way to make the class competitive. The STi would destroy an M3 with the same tires. The PAX has to be that way as its the first year of the class. Its not even a "real" class yet.
If you think the STi works in BSP you haven't seen a real BSP car :) The west coast BSP corvettes are scary. They are 2 seconds faster then the east coast BSP cars.
-Tom
Not opinionated ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
Larry is in the top AS for prosolo which I think really favors the AWD launch. I'd be extremely suprised to see the same results at national solo. Your right about it being to fast for BS but I still don't think with shocks, FSB and hoosiers it is going to be on the level with the vettes boxsters and s2000's in AS.
As far as STU goes we will just have to see. Brian Flanagan has the only M3 I have witnessed in the class so far, but he isn't even running a 275 so who knows.
I have not seen any "west coast" BSP cars so I can't comment on them.
[B]It would be too fast for BS. Larry is at the top of AS with NO development in that car. Imagine what that car would do with real shocks, real bar, and Hoosiers!
245 limit on STU is the only way to make the class competitive. The STi would destroy an M3 with the same tires. The PAX has to be that way as its the first year of the class. Its not even a "real" class yet.
If you think the STi works in BSP you haven't seen a real BSP car :) The west coast BSP corvettes are scary. They are 2 seconds faster then the east coast BSP cars.
-Tom
Not opinionated ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
Larry is in the top AS for prosolo which I think really favors the AWD launch. I'd be extremely suprised to see the same results at national solo. Your right about it being to fast for BS but I still don't think with shocks, FSB and hoosiers it is going to be on the level with the vettes boxsters and s2000's in AS.
As far as STU goes we will just have to see. Brian Flanagan has the only M3 I have witnessed in the class so far, but he isn't even running a 275 so who knows.
I have not seen any "west coast" BSP cars so I can't comment on them.
| cooleyjb | 07-15-2004 03:33 PM |
As for the 'tweaked' issue i was just kidding. The setups you guys run are awesome. It's the direction my car is going.
However I will argue that with your suspension (coilovers, swaybars, and camber etc.) + Azenis can hold a turn just as well if not better than a stock WRX and R compounds.
2 weeks ago racing against MNbiker and thechickencow (still trying to figure that name out) in Milwaukee they, with good suspensions were able to run parts of the course flat out while my stock WRX on Hoosiers didn't have enough stick to do so. A good suspension with really good tires can do alot wehre a mushy suspension and great tires can't sometimes
Joe
However I will argue that with your suspension (coilovers, swaybars, and camber etc.) + Azenis can hold a turn just as well if not better than a stock WRX and R compounds.
2 weeks ago racing against MNbiker and thechickencow (still trying to figure that name out) in Milwaukee they, with good suspensions were able to run parts of the course flat out while my stock WRX on Hoosiers didn't have enough stick to do so. A good suspension with really good tires can do alot wehre a mushy suspension and great tires can't sometimes
Joe
| KC | 07-15-2004 03:35 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cooleyjb[/i]
[B] A good suspension with really good tires can do alot wehre a mushy suspension and great tires can't sometimes
Joe [/B][/QUOTE]
And vice versa. ;)
[B] A good suspension with really good tires can do alot wehre a mushy suspension and great tires can't sometimes
Joe [/B][/QUOTE]
And vice versa. ;)
| cooleyjb | 07-15-2004 03:37 PM |
Also going back to PAX. Sure DS and STX are the same. However it seems that the fast DS cars aren't the WRX whereas teh STX is the WRX
| KC | 07-15-2004 03:45 PM |
I'mn not disagreeing with you that the WRX may not be the car to have in DS for Solo-II, but it's classed in the right class (DS) looking at it's peers.
--kC
--kC
| trhoppe | 07-15-2004 03:45 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cooleyjb[/i]
[B] who is running DS WRX nationally. and what is their setup.
[/quote]
No one right now. When I was in DS, I ran ots konis and a 24mm front bar. 3/4 rear toe out. FAR from the optimal setup. FAR FAR FAR. There was probably more then a second on a 60 second course left in that car and I won the Pro Finale against all the big dogs by 0.700 that year. That was my 1st year autoxing and I had to do some screwed up things with toe and tire pressures to get the car to rotate. After all that, andrew hahn still had a faster scratch time then me at the solo2 championships (coned it away though). There was MUCH more left in the car.
[quote]
Looking at oscoda results the DS winner ran 65.597 in a BMW 330
whereas tom in STX ran a 65.563
[/quote]
Don't look at my time in oscoda for comparing class times ;)
[quote]
I have a tough time believing that a stock WRX with R compounds is going to run the same time as tom in his 'tweaked' WRX
[/quote]
With a real set of shocks, I believe that it can
[quote]
Also looking at other results
The Atlanta ProSolo where both Mike King, Tom, Keith ran 61,61,62 respectively in STX. Fastest DS WRX 68.2 wining DS time was 64.6 in an Integra Type R.
[/quote]
You can't look at that event as it was all rain and the DS WRXs weren't prepped.
[quote]
No one is seriously campaigning them in DS.
[/QUOTE]
Ding Ding Ding Ding
[quote]Larry is in the top AS for prosolo which I think really favors the AWD launch. I'd be extremely suprised to see the same results at national solo.[/quote]
Very true. But wait till Larry gets that car sorted out. He has run 2 3 events total this year in the car. Not exactly "seat time". Plus this was the first event on the new tires. Plus he is on OTS konis. Again, FAR FAR FAR from optimal.
[quote]A good suspension with really good tires can do alot wehre a mushy suspension and great tires can't sometimes[/quote]
True, but a DS WRX with real shocks isn't exactly "mushy" ;)
[quote]However it seems that the fast DS cars aren't the WRX whereas teh STX is the WRX[/quote]
Goes back to your comment that "No one is seriously campaigning them in DS." while we are pretty serious about the WRX in STX.
Now I'm not saying that a unsorted, underprepped STi or WRX will win. In fact, they will get smoked. But if someone (who is an EQUAL driver) in an STi or WRX put as much effort into prep and sorting as the Corvette, Boxer, BMW, and Type R drivers so, I believe that they would dominate Pro Solos and hold their own in Solo 2.
-Tom
[B] who is running DS WRX nationally. and what is their setup.
[/quote]
No one right now. When I was in DS, I ran ots konis and a 24mm front bar. 3/4 rear toe out. FAR from the optimal setup. FAR FAR FAR. There was probably more then a second on a 60 second course left in that car and I won the Pro Finale against all the big dogs by 0.700 that year. That was my 1st year autoxing and I had to do some screwed up things with toe and tire pressures to get the car to rotate. After all that, andrew hahn still had a faster scratch time then me at the solo2 championships (coned it away though). There was MUCH more left in the car.
[quote]
Looking at oscoda results the DS winner ran 65.597 in a BMW 330
whereas tom in STX ran a 65.563
[/quote]
Don't look at my time in oscoda for comparing class times ;)
[quote]
I have a tough time believing that a stock WRX with R compounds is going to run the same time as tom in his 'tweaked' WRX
[/quote]
With a real set of shocks, I believe that it can
[quote]
Also looking at other results
The Atlanta ProSolo where both Mike King, Tom, Keith ran 61,61,62 respectively in STX. Fastest DS WRX 68.2 wining DS time was 64.6 in an Integra Type R.
[/quote]
You can't look at that event as it was all rain and the DS WRXs weren't prepped.
[quote]
No one is seriously campaigning them in DS.
[/QUOTE]
Ding Ding Ding Ding
[quote]Larry is in the top AS for prosolo which I think really favors the AWD launch. I'd be extremely suprised to see the same results at national solo.[/quote]
Very true. But wait till Larry gets that car sorted out. He has run 2 3 events total this year in the car. Not exactly "seat time". Plus this was the first event on the new tires. Plus he is on OTS konis. Again, FAR FAR FAR from optimal.
[quote]A good suspension with really good tires can do alot wehre a mushy suspension and great tires can't sometimes[/quote]
True, but a DS WRX with real shocks isn't exactly "mushy" ;)
[quote]However it seems that the fast DS cars aren't the WRX whereas teh STX is the WRX[/quote]
Goes back to your comment that "No one is seriously campaigning them in DS." while we are pretty serious about the WRX in STX.
Now I'm not saying that a unsorted, underprepped STi or WRX will win. In fact, they will get smoked. But if someone (who is an EQUAL driver) in an STi or WRX put as much effort into prep and sorting as the Corvette, Boxer, BMW, and Type R drivers so, I believe that they would dominate Pro Solos and hold their own in Solo 2.
-Tom
| zzyzx | 07-15-2004 03:58 PM |
I agree regarding the STi in AS for the Pros. Barely. Hell, if it rains so much the better. In the rain at the Pro at Forbes, we were hitting the first turn before the Vettes stopped spinning their tires. :lol:
AS, no, nope, not gonna happen. Larry will be the best example this year in AS of how an STi is not competitive in this class. You wait and see...
ESP - that's the ticket for the STi this year at Nats. If somebody gets serious about preping an STi for Nats this year, they'll clean house in ESP. IMO, if you're not running 275 Hoosiers or larger, then you're not serious...
- Steve Sulatycki
AS, no, nope, not gonna happen. Larry will be the best example this year in AS of how an STi is not competitive in this class. You wait and see...
ESP - that's the ticket for the STi this year at Nats. If somebody gets serious about preping an STi for Nats this year, they'll clean house in ESP. IMO, if you're not running 275 Hoosiers or larger, then you're not serious...
- Steve Sulatycki
| trhoppe | 07-15-2004 04:05 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by zzyzx[/i]
[B]IMO, if you're not running 275 Hoosiers or larger, then you're not serious...[/B][/QUOTE]
I say the same thing about AS :lol:
[quote]AS, no, nope, not gonna happen. Larry will be the best example this year in AS of how an STi is not competitive in this class. You wait and see...[/quote]
:lol: :lol: I just don't think larry is going about this the right way. Kumhos + ots konis just aint the ticket for that car. He's also runnning a small bar. I wish him all the best and hes a DAMN DAMN DAMN good driver, but he needs some better equipment :)
-Tom
[B]IMO, if you're not running 275 Hoosiers or larger, then you're not serious...[/B][/QUOTE]
I say the same thing about AS :lol:
[quote]AS, no, nope, not gonna happen. Larry will be the best example this year in AS of how an STi is not competitive in this class. You wait and see...[/quote]
:lol: :lol: I just don't think larry is going about this the right way. Kumhos + ots konis just aint the ticket for that car. He's also runnning a small bar. I wish him all the best and hes a DAMN DAMN DAMN good driver, but he needs some better equipment :)
-Tom
| Ramsey | 07-15-2004 04:54 PM |
[QUOTE]After all that, andrew hahn still had a faster scratch time then me at the solo2 championships (coned it away though).[/QUOTE]
Actually that was me, not Andrew. Andrew was co-driving my car that year. Although we both coned on sunday :(
Actually that was me, not Andrew. Andrew was co-driving my car that year. Although we both coned on sunday :(
| trhoppe | 07-15-2004 05:11 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Ramsey[/i]
[B] Actually that was me, not Andrew. Andrew was co-driving my car that year. Although we both coned on sunday :( [/B][/QUOTE]
Oh Sorry :) I guess something got to you guys too :lol: It sucked to be leading after first runs the first day and then go slower on run 2 and then even slower on run 3. I was nervous as HELL.
Why did you stop campaigning in DS btw?
-Tom
[B] Actually that was me, not Andrew. Andrew was co-driving my car that year. Although we both coned on sunday :( [/B][/QUOTE]
Oh Sorry :) I guess something got to you guys too :lol: It sucked to be leading after first runs the first day and then go slower on run 2 and then even slower on run 3. I was nervous as HELL.
Why did you stop campaigning in DS btw?
-Tom
| Ramsey | 07-15-2004 05:15 PM |
hmm, prolly the same reason everybody else did: the type r and tire costs.
i've been running regionally for the last couple of years and developing my car for STX. missed nat's last year due to time/expense of building a new house and will miss it this year for similar reasons relating to our adoption of a Chinese baby girl.
you can count on seeing me in 2005...
i've been running regionally for the last couple of years and developing my car for STX. missed nat's last year due to time/expense of building a new house and will miss it this year for similar reasons relating to our adoption of a Chinese baby girl.
you can count on seeing me in 2005...
| AUTOwrXER | 07-15-2004 11:14 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe[/i]
[B] It would be too fast for BS. Larry is at the top of AS with NO development in that car. Imagine what that car would do with real shocks, real bar, and Hoosiers!
245 limit on STU is the only way to make the class competitive. The STi would destroy an M3 with the same tires. The PAX has to be that way as its the first year of the class. Its not even a "real" class yet.
If you think the STi works in BSP you haven't seen a real BSP car :) The west coast BSP corvettes are scary. They are 2 seconds faster then the east coast BSP cars.
-Tom
Not opinionated ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
Is Larry really ahead? The fast Vettes and the Kozlaks are giving him trouble even in the Pros now. Is think the STi is the third (maybe 4th when the new S2000 gets sorted out) car in the class, otherwise I'd probably be running there.
Not sure about the 2 second thing with Lee Picone around. He's shown himself to be competitive. Also, Tunnel has been ahead of the fast west coast vettes before. OK, OK. I'm just being optimistic. I'm probably cooked if it moves to BSP...
[B] It would be too fast for BS. Larry is at the top of AS with NO development in that car. Imagine what that car would do with real shocks, real bar, and Hoosiers!
245 limit on STU is the only way to make the class competitive. The STi would destroy an M3 with the same tires. The PAX has to be that way as its the first year of the class. Its not even a "real" class yet.
If you think the STi works in BSP you haven't seen a real BSP car :) The west coast BSP corvettes are scary. They are 2 seconds faster then the east coast BSP cars.
-Tom
Not opinionated ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
Is Larry really ahead? The fast Vettes and the Kozlaks are giving him trouble even in the Pros now. Is think the STi is the third (maybe 4th when the new S2000 gets sorted out) car in the class, otherwise I'd probably be running there.
Not sure about the 2 second thing with Lee Picone around. He's shown himself to be competitive. Also, Tunnel has been ahead of the fast west coast vettes before. OK, OK. I'm just being optimistic. I'm probably cooked if it moves to BSP...
| trhoppe | 07-15-2004 11:56 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AUTOwrXER[/i]
[B] OK, OK. I'm just being optimistic. I'm probably cooked if it moves to BSP... [/B][/QUOTE]
Regionally and on the east coast events? Nope. Youre going to go quite well, especially at the Pros.
Nationals? Yup ;)
-Tom
[B] OK, OK. I'm just being optimistic. I'm probably cooked if it moves to BSP... [/B][/QUOTE]
Regionally and on the east coast events? Nope. Youre going to go quite well, especially at the Pros.
Nationals? Yup ;)
-Tom
| Scooby South | 07-16-2004 12:11 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ChrisDP[/i]
[B] Kinda surprised nobody tried REALLY setting up an '04 WRX... The stiffer springs I think could really be beneficial against the '02-'03. The lack of S04s/710s in the "short" size hurts though. [/B][/QUOTE]
Mike King has a VERY well sorted 04 WRX...and he's tested race tires on it..
[B] Kinda surprised nobody tried REALLY setting up an '04 WRX... The stiffer springs I think could really be beneficial against the '02-'03. The lack of S04s/710s in the "short" size hurts though. [/B][/QUOTE]
Mike King has a VERY well sorted 04 WRX...and he's tested race tires on it..
| MNbiker | 07-16-2004 12:24 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Scooby South [/i]
[B]Mike King has a VERY well sorted 04 WRX...and he's tested race tires on it.. [/B][/QUOTE]
However, that would be an ESP car, not a DS car.... ;)
[B]Mike King has a VERY well sorted 04 WRX...and he's tested race tires on it.. [/B][/QUOTE]
However, that would be an ESP car, not a DS car.... ;)
| MNbiker | 07-16-2004 12:26 AM |
Assuming it gets classed there, my money's on the Legacy GT as the new car to have for DS. It's WAY better than a stock WRX, and should be able to more than hold it's own against the Bimmers.
-Steve
-Steve
| ChrisDP | 07-16-2004 01:37 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Scooby South [/i]
[B]Mike King has a VERY well sorted 04 WRX...and he's tested race tires on it.. [/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah... MNBiker got my implication correctly. Sorry bout that... I meant to say, nobody has developed an '04 WRX for DS.
[B]Mike King has a VERY well sorted 04 WRX...and he's tested race tires on it.. [/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah... MNBiker got my implication correctly. Sorry bout that... I meant to say, nobody has developed an '04 WRX for DS.
| trhoppe | 07-16-2004 09:07 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Scooby South[/i]
[B] Mike King has a VERY well sorted 04 WRX...and he's tested race tires on it.. [/B][/QUOTE]
That car ain't sorted :lol:
Mike can just drive the wheels off of it
-Tom
[B] Mike King has a VERY well sorted 04 WRX...and he's tested race tires on it.. [/B][/QUOTE]
That car ain't sorted :lol:
Mike can just drive the wheels off of it
-Tom
| Scooby South | 07-16-2004 09:32 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe[/i]
[B] That car ain't sorted :lol:
Mike can just drive the wheels off of it
-Tom [/B][/QUOTE]
Guess we will see......;)
All I can say is the 'yellow Struts' are Niiiiiiiiiiice...;)
[B] That car ain't sorted :lol:
Mike can just drive the wheels off of it
-Tom [/B][/QUOTE]
Guess we will see......;)
All I can say is the 'yellow Struts' are Niiiiiiiiiiice...;)
| MNbiker | 07-16-2004 02:01 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Scooby South [/i]
[B]All I can say is the 'yellow Struts' are Niiiiiiiiiiice...;) [/B][/QUOTE]
So Mike finally got the DA Koni's installed, eh?
Having separate bump & rebound settings would definitely be useful in fine tuning some annoying WRX behaviors, but there's a lot more to getting the car "dialed" than a set of pretty struts. Me thinks ALL the top STX cars could use a bit more more fine tuning. ;)
-Steve
p.s. I'll be the first to admit that Mike can still kick my ass on course! :p
[B]All I can say is the 'yellow Struts' are Niiiiiiiiiiice...;) [/B][/QUOTE]
So Mike finally got the DA Koni's installed, eh?
Having separate bump & rebound settings would definitely be useful in fine tuning some annoying WRX behaviors, but there's a lot more to getting the car "dialed" than a set of pretty struts. Me thinks ALL the top STX cars could use a bit more more fine tuning. ;)
-Steve
p.s. I'll be the first to admit that Mike can still kick my ass on course! :p
| Zuffy | 07-16-2004 08:55 PM |
Where did you guys get the DA Konis? Does COBB still make them?
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