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searched but nothing- shift knob part 1

SinisterSkube 11-06-2006 08:54 PM

searched but nothing- shift knob
has anyone bought the aspec 10 dollar arc knock off from ebay? its a sphere that fades from purple to blue. i like its price more so then 100 bucks and from pics they look the same. my momo is getting beat up. anyone wanna buy it haha :lol:
Handsdown 11-07-2006 02:24 AM

it's not 10 bucks if it's the one i'm thinking of.

link me and i'll bid:D

all i'm seeing is their 'drift knob' which is just a e-brake button presser that you jam in to keep the ebrake from ratcheting. not my style.




edit:
the one i'm thinking of isn't aspec it's EP racing, and the problem is they either have a mirrored chrome finish with the titanium look purple blue fade(not machined like the arc) or machined finish with the nice compact disc like streaks of light, however it's just silver and there's no titanium purple blue fade.

oh, and you can bid on one but in my experience they usually fetch anywhere from 20 to 40$ before the auction ends, after shipping.

Found some. auctions start at 10 plus $5 shipping, from hong kong.

buy it now is 20 bucks, and if you ask me it's only worth it if you want it for what it is, it's not going to compare to an ARC knob.

here's a picture, so you can tell the difference in finishes:
machined, like the arc:
[img]http://www.bestkickz.com/EPR/RS2.jpg[/img]
no titanium burn fade. still, a nice knob. comparable to ARC? hell no, not even close. but good for $25? for sure. i'd rather have a genuine cusco for that price, but it's not a bad knob if it works like they claim.


the titanium finish you're talking about:
mirrored, like cheap ebay crap:
[img]http://www.bestkickz.com/EPR/RB2.jpg[/img]
but with uber rice fake titanium fade!
G3Red04WRX 11-07-2006 01:29 PM

I have one, took the chance to see if it was worth the money. Its total crap. Weighs about the same as 10 small paperclips and its just a thin piece of metal thats formed into a ball and threaded at the bottom where it wraps up on itself. DO NOT BUY IT! Total garbage.

Heck, actually, paypal me 10 bucks and ill send you mine. I have no use for it.
Thaddy 11-07-2006 01:59 PM

It doesn't even have a lip for the shift boot.

Looks like a total p.o.s.
IIdiceII 11-07-2006 02:10 PM

neither does the arc knob^^
Handsdown 11-07-2006 03:43 PM

[QUOTE=IIdiceII;15901495]neither does the arc knob^^[/QUOTE]

correct. however the ARC is actual titanium and is counterweighted expertly.

a shift boot nipple doesn't mean ****.



the only thing that differentiates between a total POS and a good quality knob is threading and weight.

a POS will not thread well or slip once on the shifter, and and POS will not counterweight the shifter properly. there are shift knobs for less than $30 that do both excellently and there are shift knobs for more than $80 that are POS...
FUJITSTIBO 11-07-2006 03:52 PM

^ what she said

will post pics of my arc knob later
G3Red04WRX 11-07-2006 10:48 PM

BTW, heres a quick shot of it installed. I actually bought the Titanium finished one, but it was such crap when i got it, that i attached it to my drill, wetsanded the finish off, and re-blued it on my kitchen stove. LOOKS just like the arc knob, but only wishes it was in the same universe as far as quality is concerned. I would gladly pay the 120 bucks for the arc knob, but i completely regret spending the 15 bucks on this piece of garbage.

[URL=http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2531170][img]http://f5.putfile.com/5/12513354141-thumb.jpg[/img][/URL]
WRXDriftR 11-08-2006 12:31 AM

[quote=G3Red04WRX;15908600]BTW, heres a quick shot of it installed. I actually bought the Titanium finished one, but it was such crap when i got it, that i attached it to my drill, wetsanded the finish off, and re-blued it on my kitchen stove. LOOKS just like the arc knob, but only wishes it was in the same universe as far as quality is concerned. I would gladly pay the 120 bucks for the arc knob, but i completely regret spending the 15 bucks on this piece of garbage.

[URL="http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2531170"][IMG]http://f5.putfile.com/5/12513354141-thumb.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/quote]

Thats a scary dog!!
Handsdown 12-05-2006 09:25 PM

alright...

i'm sure i won't be stunned by it but for 15 bucks shipped i figured it was worth it just to find out and have a spherical knob.

so i bid $9.99 and won.

no one has pictures of the finish before sanding/burning, do they? i'm actually kind of hoping the finish will just be a satin metal, maybe with a very slight fade, rather than the burnt to hell look above. the pictures make it look like the fade is hardly noticable, which is what i want.

i'll let you know my opinions when it arrives.

[img]http://www.bestkickz.com/EPR/RS.jpg[/img]
hopefully it will look just like this.
G3Red04WRX 12-05-2006 11:18 PM

^ Thats exactly what the silver one looks like in person. The titanium one is non-machined and blued then polished shiny. The one i have is the blued one, with some custom work done to it.

I wish you the best of luck with yours when you get it. Don't say i didnt warn you!

BTW, when you get it and think the box is empty, its not. The shift knob really does weigh less than the box it ships in.
G3Red04WRX 12-05-2006 11:25 PM

[QUOTE=WRXDriftR;15909635]Thats a scary dog!!

PM me if you're interested in a serious shift knob, none of this allen key universal mass-produced garbage ;)[/QUOTE]

+eleventybazillion for WC Lathe Works shift knobs. I absolutely LOVE the one he made for me. Best shift knob your money can buy, and best of all, they arent mass produced and lining some big companies pockets, you are helping a fellow nasioc'er out by buying his products. Also, customer relation is top notch to this guy. He makes sure you will be happy with your purchase.

Oh yea, and he is in "guard" mode. He's saying "don't touch that 10 dollar ARC knockoff if you value your ankles" with his armor piercing lazer eyes.
WRXDriftR 12-05-2006 11:29 PM

[quote=G3Red04WRX;16221680]+eleventybazillion for WC Lathe Werks shift knobs. I absolutely LOVE the one he made for me. Best shift knob your money can buy, and best of all, they arent mass produced and lining some big companies pockets, you are helping a fellow nasioc'er out by buying his products. Also, customer relation is top notch to this guy. He makes sure you will be happy with your purchase.

Oh yea, and he is in "guard" mode. He's saying "don't touch that 10 dollar ARC knockoff if you value your ankles" with his armor piercing lazer eyes.[/quote]



I heard my name :p
My stuff is on the TurnInConcepts website under Subaru/CGCI/ WC LATHE WERKS, Clint is selling the pieces I make since Im not a vendor. I can also provide custom orders through my email address on the TiC website.

Thanks for the kind words George!
timeattack 12-05-2006 11:46 PM

[QUOTE=G3Red04WRX;16221680]+eleventybazillion for WC Lathe Works shift knobs. I absolutely LOVE the one he made for me. Best shift knob your money can buy, and best of all, they arent mass produced and lining some big companies pockets, you are helping a fellow nasioc'er out by buying his products. Also, customer relation is top notch to this guy. He makes sure you will be happy with your purchase.

Oh yea, and he is in "guard" mode. He's saying "don't touch that 10 dollar ARC knockoff if you value your ankles" with his armor piercing lazer eyes.[/QUOTE]

Looks like you retrofitted some Hella 90mm projectors into your dog. :lol:
Handsdown 12-06-2006 12:00 AM

if it comes and doesn't look like it's machined, if it looks polished, i'll throw it through someone's window out of anger.
WRXDriftR 12-06-2006 12:45 AM

[quote=Handsdown;16222028]if it comes and doesn't look like it's machined, if it looks polished, i'll throw it through someone's window out of anger.[/quote]

If you want something machined, get something [B]Machined! [/B]:p
stop wasting your money on mass-produced, poor-fitting, shift knobs that dont even include a lip for the shift boot :lol: I dont mean to sound insulting, but $15 here and there adds up quick

[img]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/ShiftKnobs/GroupTiC1.JPG[/img]
[img]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/ShiftKnobs/Lathe1.JPG[/img]
G3Red04WRX 12-06-2006 07:07 AM

[QUOTE=timeattack;16221904]Looks like you retrofitted some Hella 90mm projectors into your dog. :lol:[/QUOTE]

They are actually PIAA 15mm micro HID projectors @ 12,000k

You should see when he turns on the high beams!
Handsdown 12-06-2006 11:05 AM

chris- i totally agree with you...

but my situation isn't exactly the same, i already have a shift knob that i'm incredibly happy with, this is just to see what it will be like. i can justify throwing away 15 bucks on that; spending 70, 80, or even 100 for anything less than the absolute best shift knob in the world for my exact hand and style just doesn't make sense to me... and while i'm sure there are many who instantly fall in love with your knobs, i like my current knob too much to spend that much on another.
WRXDriftR 12-06-2006 04:03 PM

oh, i gotcha. the word "knob" sounds weird sometimes in certain context... :lol:
G3Red04WRX 12-06-2006 07:08 PM

[QUOTE=Handsdown;16226036]chris- i totally agree with you...

but my situation isn't exactly the same, i already have a shift knob that i'm incredibly happy with, this is just to see what it will be like. i can justify throwing away 15 bucks on that; spending 70, 80, or even 100 for anything less than the absolute best shift knob in the world for my exact hand and style just doesn't make sense to me... and while i'm sure there are many who instantly fall in love with your knobs, i like my current knob too much to spend that much on another.[/QUOTE]

This is why i decided to model my own custom shift knob in inventor to my exact demanding specifications. I knew what i wanted, and what would feel best for me. Chris put up with my strict demands, let me know what i wanted that was unreasonable, i modified the changes to his requirements, tweaked a few times, rendered a few times to make sure it looked good, then sent him my final design. He said it looked good and proceeded to fabricate my shift knob. Final product looked as good as i had expected it would, and it was on my doorstep 2 days after it was put in the mail. I took it out, tossed it around my workplace a little (not literally), everyone was impressed at the quality, and the sticker shock. Not in a bad way, but they couldnt believe that a one off custom fabrication was so easy on my wallet! Many of them expected it would have cost double or more just for the labor involved in the fabrication. This was coming from people that have been involved in the machining / fabrication business all their life. Well anyways, i finally got it installed in my car later that afternoon and got to test it out for the first time on my way home from work. It was nothing short of perfect (in relation to what i was expecting) The weight was in the right place to make the shifter work even smoother than the stock piston knob, it was taller in length compared to the Ti piston, but slightly shorter in height installed, so that if i gun-gripped the shiftknob, my entire hand had a solid surface to hold on to. When i top-grip the shiftknob, my fingertips are met with a perfectly machined knurled surface to provide additional grip. And the nice large radius on the top edge is nice and smooth in the palm of my hand so theres no hard edge jamming into my palm during forward throws. Between having access to software that allowed me to design a shift knob to exacting specifications, and having a machinist with the skills to fabricate my creation, really made it possible to have the perfect shift knob that was made just for me. Don't let the limited selection at TiC scare you away, if it can be turned on a lathe, Chris will do his best to make you exactly what you want.
WRXDriftR 12-06-2006 10:09 PM

heres a pic of the knob described above:
[img]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/ShiftKnobs/WRX%20GF4-a.JPG[/img]
[img]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/ShiftKnobs/WRX%20GF4-c.JPG[/img]

This is 100% unique, and I promised George i wouldnt ever make a copy of it since he was a great customer!
Handsdown 01-08-2007 03:22 PM

jesus crap.


i just got it in the mail(wasn't in town, it probably got here a month ago), and it was definitely not a bargain... expect this $15 shift knob to be exactly that, a $15 shift knob.

it's not that it's questionable quality from china, though it is.

it's not that it's less than 15 grams... which it does. it weighs nothing and will make shifting feel like you are using a lead pipe to dig bone marrow out of an elephant femur- there is absolutely no counterweight. i am not looking forward to finding out how accurate that description is, this weighs less than my carbon fiber knob and that's a nightmare to shift with.

it's not that it looks machined, which is nice, but has no noticable 'burnt ti' coloration or any color to it at all... it has no color but that doesn't make it unattractive... in fact, if it weren't for the main downfall of this knob, it would be incredibly attractive.

the reason this knob sucks knob is that it's SO DAMN SMALL.

the thing is SMALLER than a ping pong ball. it probably weighs the same as a ping pong ball as well. even though it's an almost perfect sphere, it's so damn small that it may actually hurt to shift with.




sorry to say i was hopeful the opinions of this thread were wrong- they're right on.

it's not worth $5, let alone $15.
G3Red04WRX 01-08-2007 07:04 PM

Yay, finally i get to say it....


I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!
Handsdown 01-08-2007 08:10 PM

haha:lol:

i put it on. it's crap to shift with but it actually looks pretty cool. i'm going to keep it on just to switch it up for a few days, then put my kartboy back on.
IIdiceII 01-08-2007 09:24 PM

post some pics..i wanna see how small it is lol
Handsdown 01-08-2007 09:49 PM

alright, need some daylight though.
G3Red04WRX 01-08-2007 09:55 PM

[QUOTE=IIdiceII;16588887]post some pics..i wanna see how small it is lol[/QUOTE]

Look up the page a bit to the picture i posted of mine. Its the exact same thing. In my picture, its on the stock 5 speed short shifter kit.
WRXDriftR 01-18-2007 02:21 AM

i just finished one of these Acetal Copolymer knobs... its light, but its pretty nice. It doesnt get cold like my aluminum ones either:

[img]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/ShiftKnobs/AcetalCopolymerKnobs/WRX%20TaperedPiston-c.JPG[/img]
[img]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/ShiftKnobs/AcetalCopolymerKnobs/WRX%20TaperedPiston-c.JPG[/img]
SinisterSkube 02-19-2007 05:09 PM

what do you charge to make them?
Capt Crunch 02-19-2007 08:15 PM

[QUOTE=Handsdown;15903047]correct. however the ARC is actual titanium and is counterweighted expertly.
[/QUOTE]

It was counterweighted by experts? Those guys at ARC are top notch... you have to get a PhD in titanium counter-weighting if you want to have a shot at working there. They must have put at least 10,000 hours and millions of dollars in R&D to expertly counterweight their shift knobs. In fact, the weight of each shift knob is actually used as a weight standard because regular weight standards are not precise enough.

Moreover, ARC has defied the laws of physics by making their shift knobs weigh the same on the moon or in space so that your shift action is not impaired by the lack of gravity.




Sorry, I got carried away.
Patrick Olsen 02-21-2007 02:35 AM

[QUOTE=Capt Crunch;17109205]It was counterweighted by experts? Those guys at ARC are top notch... you have to get a PhD in titanium counter-weighting if you want to have a shot at working there. They must have put at least 10,000 hours and millions of dollars in R&D to expertly counterweight their shift knobs. In fact, the weight of each shift knob is actually used as a weight standard because regular weight standards are not precise enough. [/QUOTE]
The ARC guys must be way better than the Greddy guys. I recently picked up one of the vaunted Greddy counterweight knobs and I [i]immediately[/i] noticed... um... absolutely nothing. It shifts like every other shift knob I've ever used, including the super lightweight chintzy Ebay titanium one I bought last year.

What am I missing about the magic of the counterweighting? :confused:

Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan

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