| Osgood30 | 01-30-2003 08:56 PM |
Speed's Monte Carlo coverage
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2 hour Commercial-thon with breaks for a little rally coverage
its just annoying
as for the rally itself, I did not see much improvement in actuall video footage as we expected because of more longer delay time.
its just annoying
as for the rally itself, I did not see much improvement in actuall video footage as we expected because of more longer delay time.
| meebs | 01-30-2003 09:24 PM |
I didn't think it was that bad. Acutally probably quality wise the same as last year. On one hand they thankfully got rid of the 20 minutes of replaying in car footage.... and then on the other you've got Nicky with his, "look at me I just had a chat with Colin... I just had a chat with Gronholm.." :rolleyes: ...and then Ralph saying, "Thanks Nicky!" like he is the best of buds with him. :rolleyes: blechh.
I like the more technical analysis, like showing off the ECU and tranny cpu. Also, I do like them cramming it all into 2 focused hours, rather than stringing out 1.5 hours of coverage over 3 days. Much better format.
I like the more technical analysis, like showing off the ECU and tranny cpu. Also, I do like them cramming it all into 2 focused hours, rather than stringing out 1.5 hours of coverage over 3 days. Much better format.
| scottwrx | 01-30-2003 09:39 PM |
It was okay. I still miss the "same day" coverage. I hate having to wait to see the video a week or so later.
| Rallychic | 01-30-2003 09:47 PM |
It appears that Mitsubishi is the big advertiser this year..don't know how many times that one commercial was on!! :lol:
Anyone know why Luis Moya stepped out after 15 years??
Anyone know why Luis Moya stepped out after 15 years??
| Thug | 01-30-2003 10:23 PM |
Im pretty happy with it. Plus I can go to bed now where as last year it wouldnt have even started yet. It was better than last year's coverage, just as I said it would be.
| Osgood30 | 01-30-2003 10:42 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rallychic [/i]
[B]Anyone know why Luis Moya stepped out after 15 years?? [/B][/QUOTE]
they said that he just lost motivation and decided to call it quits
[B]Anyone know why Luis Moya stepped out after 15 years?? [/B][/QUOTE]
they said that he just lost motivation and decided to call it quits
| Quik0002 | 01-30-2003 11:09 PM |
[QUOTE]Anyone know why Luis Moya stepped out after 15 years??[/QUOTE] From what I hear, he was not ready to take the pay cut that he would have gotten at Citroen, and he said something like "Why should I be paid the same as a co-driver for Skoda?"
I liked this years coverage, and enjoyed the technical analysis as well. I also like how much older footage they have been showing, especially on Rally XS.
I liked this years coverage, and enjoyed the technical analysis as well. I also like how much older footage they have been showing, especially on Rally XS.
| Robin2 | 01-30-2003 11:51 PM |
The coverage was better (compared to last year).... Not exceptional but better.... All the action was mainly in the first day so that's why it grew a bit dull but you can't blame the TV producer for for less action since some teams were taking it easy.... for the remainder of the event.
For the commercials, tape it first! then just fast-forward them on your VCR.... How many chunky chicken soups commercials were there!
For myself, I enjoyed it... I'm sure they'll tweek it during the year.... but overall, I already knew the results since I always follow the rally as goes on-line!
Robin
For the commercials, tape it first! then just fast-forward them on your VCR.... How many chunky chicken soups commercials were there!
For myself, I enjoyed it... I'm sure they'll tweek it during the year.... but overall, I already knew the results since I always follow the rally as goes on-line!
Robin
| gtguy | 01-30-2003 11:51 PM |
My initial reaction is that I don't like it. There isn't as much in-car footage, which I like a lot, but this could well have been just because the sun conditions at Monte Carlo made it not worthwhile to show that view.
I would have liked a lot more action, and less chatter. I don't care as much what the drivers think as how they go down the road.
I presume that things will be tweaked as the season progresses, as they were last year.
I did like dealing with the entire rally in one show, and I also liked how they didn't have to spend time catching up. But they wasted any time gained with bollocks like the Colin McRae profile, and the nattering from that woman with Nicky Grist, and too much Nicky time in general. Yes, he was an excellent co-driver, and sure his technical commentary was outstanding.
But ultimately, I want to see more action and less talking heads.
Kevin
I would have liked a lot more action, and less chatter. I don't care as much what the drivers think as how they go down the road.
I presume that things will be tweaked as the season progresses, as they were last year.
I did like dealing with the entire rally in one show, and I also liked how they didn't have to spend time catching up. But they wasted any time gained with bollocks like the Colin McRae profile, and the nattering from that woman with Nicky Grist, and too much Nicky time in general. Yes, he was an excellent co-driver, and sure his technical commentary was outstanding.
But ultimately, I want to see more action and less talking heads.
Kevin
| Red-Impreza | 01-30-2003 11:54 PM |
I just watched it. Overall, I was pretty pleased. I'm really happy with the addition of Niky Grist. It's wonderful to have somebody who absolutely knows what he's talking about. He can chat it up with whomever he'd like in my book. I thought the addition of Robin M... (damn, forgot her last name) was good too. Kinda' reminds me of the girl from Junkyard Wars.
But, you're right, the technical stuff was best. The Ford Engine & transmission controller segment was good stuff. I could still live without Ralf and I'd love to have more exterior (maybe helicoptor) footage.
Overall, I give it a B+ for effort.
;)
But, you're right, the technical stuff was best. The Ford Engine & transmission controller segment was good stuff. I could still live without Ralf and I'd love to have more exterior (maybe helicoptor) footage.
Overall, I give it a B+ for effort.
;)
| Dr. WOT | 01-31-2003 12:39 AM |
I'd say it was So-so. My big grip is with the script. Day 1 Gronholm is starting first. Don't tell us he set the fastest time before we have seen another car turn a wheel!!! Can we convey even a shread of drama here?
Otherwise the coverage was more concise and the footage was better edited. There was that one segment of all replays that was completely pointless but that was an isolated incedent.
The best plus was Grist; while he is a bit annoying he does add valuable insight that the show was desperatiely lacking. I just wish he'd stop trying to be a star and just act normal.
Otherwise the coverage was more concise and the footage was better edited. There was that one segment of all replays that was completely pointless but that was an isolated incedent.
The best plus was Grist; while he is a bit annoying he does add valuable insight that the show was desperatiely lacking. I just wish he'd stop trying to be a star and just act normal.
| Orion | 01-31-2003 01:36 AM |
I thought the coverage was better, but they still had a few glitches. Unfortunately it looks like the first couple event will have some teething problems again. Minute and a half segments between commercials are just ridiculous. There were too many in last years shows and I found a couple times where it was back tonight.
I'll make my overall decision after 4-5 events. I wasn't happy with last years monotony of the same 3 in-car segments and Ralphie's NASCAR comments, but it did get better towards the end of the season.
On the bright side, best thing is you can watch it all in one night and get the RallyXS and RallyXtra to get that extra fix. Oh yeah, 7pm is a MUCH better time. Last year was a PITA to stay up for when you've got to be at work at 6am.
I'll make my overall decision after 4-5 events. I wasn't happy with last years monotony of the same 3 in-car segments and Ralphie's NASCAR comments, but it did get better towards the end of the season.
On the bright side, best thing is you can watch it all in one night and get the RallyXS and RallyXtra to get that extra fix. Oh yeah, 7pm is a MUCH better time. Last year was a PITA to stay up for when you've got to be at work at 6am.
| sevenhead | 01-31-2003 03:40 AM |
Delays suck because if you are like me and don't want to know the results of a motorsport event before you are able to watch it, it takes a bit of discipline to stay away from some of your favorite websites/forums. I had to stay out of this forum all week for fear that I might accidently find out the results. I know. I'm sick.
Just finished watching the coverage that I recorded on Tivo. Four clicks on the remote forward button (30 sec jump) and I am through the commercial and back to the action and Ralph's drivel. Can't say that there is any improvement yet, but I would like to see a little more in-car shots and better audio from the co-driver. I also liked the technical stuff, the more, the better. Definitely don't need more talking heads, Ms Penny Mallory, but I guess they need her to prompt Nicky.
I don't mind the straight two hours, but let's have it on Sunday AM of the event.
Lee
Just finished watching the coverage that I recorded on Tivo. Four clicks on the remote forward button (30 sec jump) and I am through the commercial and back to the action and Ralph's drivel. Can't say that there is any improvement yet, but I would like to see a little more in-car shots and better audio from the co-driver. I also liked the technical stuff, the more, the better. Definitely don't need more talking heads, Ms Penny Mallory, but I guess they need her to prompt Nicky.
I don't mind the straight two hours, but let's have it on Sunday AM of the event.
Lee
| WillRX | 01-31-2003 06:29 AM |
At least it gives ralphie-boy a few days to practice speeking...he doesn't sound AS dumb as he did last year.
I still vote for Dave Despain
WillRX
I still vote for Dave Despain
WillRX
| Osgood30 | 01-31-2003 07:17 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WillRX [/i]
[B]I still vote for Dave Despain
WillRX [/B][/QUOTE]
I vote for anyone with british or australian accents, they seem to know what they talking about:p (2001 wrc guy, or guy who does SuperBikes)
:D
[B]I still vote for Dave Despain
WillRX [/B][/QUOTE]
I vote for anyone with british or australian accents, they seem to know what they talking about:p (2001 wrc guy, or guy who does SuperBikes)
:D
| Dr. WOT | 01-31-2003 08:08 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Osgood30 [/i]
[B]
2001 wrc guy [/B][/QUOTE]
That guy was the best. I would also nominate the guy who narrates Motorsport Mondial (which BTW is a top notch show). Then again these guys have nothing to do with Speed so it will never happen! :(
[B]
2001 wrc guy [/B][/QUOTE]
That guy was the best. I would also nominate the guy who narrates Motorsport Mondial (which BTW is a top notch show). Then again these guys have nothing to do with Speed so it will never happen! :(
| IggDawg | 01-31-2003 08:09 AM |
I liked the coverage, despite the commercials. I only got an hour of it between cooking and whatnot. I really liked it. Very much looking forward to the rest of the season.
-IggDawg
-IggDawg
| Osgood30 | 01-31-2003 08:36 AM |
Commercial breakdown
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Here is my marketing breakdown of commercial:
The ran Mitsubishi commercial ---> all young immature people will want buy the Lancer and start modding it.
then they will spend their money and go broke ---> so they will have to eat canned chunky soup for the rest of the life......
untill they will call AmeriDebt and get out of debt
The ran Mitsubishi commercial ---> all young immature people will want buy the Lancer and start modding it.
then they will spend their money and go broke ---> so they will have to eat canned chunky soup for the rest of the life......
untill they will call AmeriDebt and get out of debt
| IggDawg | 01-31-2003 08:45 AM |
I hadn't seen the lancer commercial in forever. Then I saw it like 20 times last night :D . I wonder if they're a sponsor :lol:.
-IggDawg
-IggDawg
| PURE EPI | 01-31-2003 09:03 AM |
when is the next time it's on? I heard throught hte site at Sunday the 2nd of Feb
| Jaxx | 01-31-2003 11:26 AM |
hmm i really don't understand why people didn't like the in car footage
and even if they didn't, was it worth a week wait? so that some idiot nascar tv editor could chop the dailys into a marathon with 57 million commericals
the time was AWEFULL!
started at 5 pm here i missed the first 45 min [img]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/images/icons/icon13.gif[/img]
hmm any one else hungry for some chunky soup
and even if they didn't, was it worth a week wait? so that some idiot nascar tv editor could chop the dailys into a marathon with 57 million commericals
the time was AWEFULL!
started at 5 pm here i missed the first 45 min [img]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/images/icons/icon13.gif[/img]
hmm any one else hungry for some chunky soup
| WRXedUSA | 01-31-2003 11:50 AM |
Bad
The weeklong delay took the excitement out of it. Penny Mallory was quite annoying and should stay on Channel 4. Nicky was good again. Nice to see he was doing good reporting now with expert analysis.
2 Hours of coverage wasnt enough. Too many commercials (Dang Lancer 2wd Commercial) and not enough action.
Speed Channel did mail me back regarding my issue with the deranged coverage. They said"
"We are sorry that you are not sasified. We are doing our best."
The weeklong delay took the excitement out of it. Penny Mallory was quite annoying and should stay on Channel 4. Nicky was good again. Nice to see he was doing good reporting now with expert analysis.
2 Hours of coverage wasnt enough. Too many commercials (Dang Lancer 2wd Commercial) and not enough action.
Speed Channel did mail me back regarding my issue with the deranged coverage. They said"
"We are sorry that you are not sasified. We are doing our best."
| Jewbaru | 01-31-2003 12:54 PM |
I didn't mind it as much. It seems as tho they're trying to give it a more "Americanized" coverage feel, with the "reporters" sitting in their chairs commenting, interviewing drivers and what not. To most of us who know what's going on, we'd rather just see the cars, to the rest of the USA, I think the coverage was good.
I liked the little tid bit's Nicky threw in about the stages and what not, it was cool to have commentary from someone who's actually seen the stages.
The one HUGE negative was all the damn commercials. That stupid chunky soup commercial was aired almost every commercial break!
I liked the little tid bit's Nicky threw in about the stages and what not, it was cool to have commentary from someone who's actually seen the stages.
The one HUGE negative was all the damn commercials. That stupid chunky soup commercial was aired almost every commercial break!
| prost893 | 01-31-2003 02:48 PM |
I thought it was acceptable. I mean, I would rather have what they showed instead of nothing. I can stand the Penny and Nicky show to a certain extent but would prefer less. Ralfie needds to go. If it must be someone from speed then Dispain is the only logical choice. At least he knows something about off road racing. What I hated to no end was all of the [email�protected] commercials! I mean, JHC, how many real minutes of programming were there in the 2 hours, 75 minutes? Most shows are 43 minutes per hour but this was nowhere near that. I don't mind the history since I have only been watching the shows for about 6 months now. I have always followed rallying to the extent of who wins and the to 10 drivers but F1 bored me to tears the last two years so I needed something else. I am happy to have found rallying because it is, by nature, more exciting than F1. I just wish the coverage would make a little more sense and flow better. I had a hard time following the stages because they didn't seem clear until the leg 3. Anyway ramble over...
| WHTWRX | 01-31-2003 03:29 PM |
I approve of the coverage. Although it is more exciting to watch it live or sameday, at least I can get it all in one shot now.
Only one thing I desperately want to see: Pick 1 team's most exciting stage and show it uncut from inside the car. I want to experience an entire stage from inside the cockpit! So what if that would take up a 1/2 hour, it'd be worth it to me!
Only one thing I desperately want to see: Pick 1 team's most exciting stage and show it uncut from inside the car. I want to experience an entire stage from inside the cockpit! So what if that would take up a 1/2 hour, it'd be worth it to me!
| Dr. WOT | 01-31-2003 03:31 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Jaxx [/i]
[B]
hmm any one else hungry for some chunky soup [/B][/QUOTE]
No, but Maria Rinaldi's marinara sauce sure looks good. :D
[B]
hmm any one else hungry for some chunky soup [/B][/QUOTE]
No, but Maria Rinaldi's marinara sauce sure looks good. :D
| WRXedUSA | 01-31-2003 04:44 PM |
Maybe Mrs. Rinaldi could have the Shaw's over for dinner and they would solve thier debt problem!!!
[QUOTE]No, but Maria Rinaldi's marinara sauce sure looks good. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]No, but Maria Rinaldi's marinara sauce sure looks good. [/QUOTE]
| akuhner | 02-02-2003 10:00 PM |
Two chances to have seen it today... I would go with this format if it was shown on the Sunday night of the event, or even that Monday. It was on at 7PM here and I had trouble getting home in time too. Nicky was an embarassment to the rally community with his lame comments. Who was that woman and why do I care about her opinion? Are they trying to emulate football coverage here?
| Rattler | 02-03-2003 01:34 AM |
[QUOTE] Who was that woman and why do I care about her opinion?[/QUOTE] Its Penny Mallory from Ch. 4 in the UK. She does stuff for Rally XS magazine too.
I thought Nicky was alright. His technical explanations are great. Ralfie-boy I could definitely live without. I agree,bring back the Brit that did it a couple years ago. We shouldn't bitch though. they might get Hugh Grant with Divine Brown doing it. :eek: Although they could replace Penny with Elizabeth Hurley anyday for me.:D
I do like it all in one show. I didn't think I would but I would miss half the shows for taping before anyway. I get it all in one shot now. The coverage didn't seem that much different. Although there did seem like ther was less in-car footage. I saw they are doing the Rally XS and Rally X-tra half hour shows still.
I thought Nicky was alright. His technical explanations are great. Ralfie-boy I could definitely live without. I agree,bring back the Brit that did it a couple years ago. We shouldn't bitch though. they might get Hugh Grant with Divine Brown doing it. :eek: Although they could replace Penny with Elizabeth Hurley anyday for me.:D
I do like it all in one show. I didn't think I would but I would miss half the shows for taping before anyway. I get it all in one shot now. The coverage didn't seem that much different. Although there did seem like ther was less in-car footage. I saw they are doing the Rally XS and Rally X-tra half hour shows still.
| Bonzo | 02-03-2003 09:18 AM |
I like the 2 hour one show format. Much easier to tape one show vs 3.
Comercial ratio is the same wether it's 30 minutes or 2 hours.
It was delayed last year. With the internet I see the results and then watch the action. No biggie.
Ralph is not my fav but am getting used to his voice. I am already tiring of Nicky. He kinda gets on my nerves, kinda like a whiney kid gets on my nerves.
Overall I like this seasons coverage/format much better.
Comercial ratio is the same wether it's 30 minutes or 2 hours.
It was delayed last year. With the internet I see the results and then watch the action. No biggie.
Ralph is not my fav but am getting used to his voice. I am already tiring of Nicky. He kinda gets on my nerves, kinda like a whiney kid gets on my nerves.
Overall I like this seasons coverage/format much better.
| Dr. WOT | 02-03-2003 02:39 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WRXedUSA [/i]
[B]Maybe Mrs. Rinaldi could have the Shaw's over for dinner and they would solve thier debt problem!!!
[/B][/QUOTE]
:lol:
thanks, I needed a good laugh
[B]Maybe Mrs. Rinaldi could have the Shaw's over for dinner and they would solve thier debt problem!!!
[/B][/QUOTE]
:lol:
thanks, I needed a good laugh
| driggity | 02-03-2003 08:43 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Jaxx [/i]
[B]the time was AWEFULL!
started at 5 pm here i missed the first 45 min [img]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/images/icons/icon13.gif[/img] [/B][/QUOTE]
They do replay it 5 hours after the first airing. No way I was going to be home in time to see it at 4 but the 9 PM showing was just right.
I'm not sure about the coverage yet. I think more in car footage would have been a waste as most of the time when they did show it everything outside of the car was completely washed out and useless to look it. I did like some of the little side segments but I also feel like there were too many of them. And really it seems like not much was added with the extra waiting. If they're going to do a single 2 hour show I'd much rather have it air Sunday night.
[B]the time was AWEFULL!
started at 5 pm here i missed the first 45 min [img]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/images/icons/icon13.gif[/img] [/B][/QUOTE]
They do replay it 5 hours after the first airing. No way I was going to be home in time to see it at 4 but the 9 PM showing was just right.
I'm not sure about the coverage yet. I think more in car footage would have been a waste as most of the time when they did show it everything outside of the car was completely washed out and useless to look it. I did like some of the little side segments but I also feel like there were too many of them. And really it seems like not much was added with the extra waiting. If they're going to do a single 2 hour show I'd much rather have it air Sunday night.
| Bonzo | 02-03-2003 08:47 PM |
If I'm not mistaken the in-car is fed via helicopter/satelites. The Monte seemed to have alot of tree overhang and rock wall obstructions. Maybe we saw less in-car cuz it just was not feasable.
| WRXedUSA | 02-03-2003 10:05 PM |
[QUOTE]quote:[/QUOTE]
Then they could all get together free ride in that spanking new Cherokee of the Shaw's and toss a salad later at Maria's slum
Anyways, jokes aside. What the heck, we cant get same day coverage, but they will devote 3 nights of coverage of replays twice in the same night a weekend later? I'm biffed. I saw the same Rally extra and 3 days of rally twice on Saturday and Sunday. I guess I'm a moron.
Then they could all get together free ride in that spanking new Cherokee of the Shaw's and toss a salad later at Maria's slum
Anyways, jokes aside. What the heck, we cant get same day coverage, but they will devote 3 nights of coverage of replays twice in the same night a weekend later? I'm biffed. I saw the same Rally extra and 3 days of rally twice on Saturday and Sunday. I guess I'm a moron.
| Rattler | 02-04-2003 12:06 AM |
I also saw that Speed is gonna have a call-in show. i don't remember when its gonna start though. It sounded like they want to know what everybody wants.
| Dr. WOT | 02-04-2003 01:46 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rattler [/i]
[B]I also saw that Speed is gonna have a call-in show. i don't remember when its gonna start though. It sounded like they want to know what everybody wants. [/B][/QUOTE]
host: "caller, go ahead..."
caller #1: "you guys suck!"
host: "thanks! next caller, you're on the air"
caller #2: "Ralf Shehe's a moron!"
host: "we'll be back after these messages..."
[B]I also saw that Speed is gonna have a call-in show. i don't remember when its gonna start though. It sounded like they want to know what everybody wants. [/B][/QUOTE]
host: "caller, go ahead..."
caller #1: "you guys suck!"
host: "thanks! next caller, you're on the air"
caller #2: "Ralf Shehe's a moron!"
host: "we'll be back after these messages..."
| Rattler | 02-04-2003 02:18 PM |
I was looking around Speed's BBs and they posted the ratings for Monte. They were down some from last year.
Wanna hear something worse? The Speed TV Rep posted this:
"Funny you should mention that. We held a big "think out of the box for WRC marketing" meeting today and do want to incorporate NASCAR personalities to push WRC and therefore some of the NASCAR base to sample WRC."
You can find it all here:
[url]http://insider.speedtv.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=4114&forum=11&15[/url]
Wanna hear something worse? The Speed TV Rep posted this:
"Funny you should mention that. We held a big "think out of the box for WRC marketing" meeting today and do want to incorporate NASCAR personalities to push WRC and therefore some of the NASCAR base to sample WRC."
You can find it all here:
[url]http://insider.speedtv.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=4114&forum=11&15[/url]
| driggity | 02-04-2003 07:41 PM |
Ugh, anyone know why the day they show coverage is bouncing around? Looks like Sweden is going to be on Saturday. I don't like it :(
| Idjiit | 02-05-2003 09:44 AM |
While it may sound a little silly, I think getting NASCAR guys involved to support WRC isn't necessarily a bad idea. Obviously, the point is to get people who otherwise were unaware of the sport into it - so that's fine by me. I must admit any mental picture I can conjure of their NASCAR-supported WRC advertisements is a bit funny though... heh. Should be interesting to see.
However, I think they're missing the point. If ratings are down, it means that they're not capitalizing on a viewer base that they already apparently had, and then lost. For instance, I'm someone who used to watch the daily coverage religiously, but now that it's weekly and totally separated from the event I don't have as much impetus to watch - and indeed, I didn't watch.
However, I think they're missing the point. If ratings are down, it means that they're not capitalizing on a viewer base that they already apparently had, and then lost. For instance, I'm someone who used to watch the daily coverage religiously, but now that it's weekly and totally separated from the event I don't have as much impetus to watch - and indeed, I didn't watch.
| WRXedUSA | 02-05-2003 12:11 PM |
[QUOTE]I'm someone who used to watch the daily coverage religiously, but now that it's weekly and totally separated from the event I don't have as much impetus to watch - and indeed, I didn't watch.[/QUOTE]
True. They are artificially lowering their ratings.........
Sweden is gonna make me mad.......
True. They are artificially lowering their ratings.........
Sweden is gonna make me mad.......
| Eric SS | 02-05-2003 08:13 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WRXedUSA [/i]
[B]
True. They are artificially lowering their ratings.........
Sweden is gonna make me mad....... [/B][/QUOTE]
I agree 100%. I only watched the last day. :(
Eric
[B]
True. They are artificially lowering their ratings.........
Sweden is gonna make me mad....... [/B][/QUOTE]
I agree 100%. I only watched the last day. :(
Eric
| WRXedUSA | 02-06-2003 09:24 PM |
Anyone see the advert in the new Car & Driver? They are Showing a bartender and 3 guys in a nudy bar with all their attention on the TV overhead watching WRC.
This is how people feel watching WRC.
Lamely, they post the actual rally times on the sidebar and then then mention "Watch 2003 FIA World Rally, Only on Speed"
B.S.
This is how people feel watching WRC.
Lamely, they post the actual rally times on the sidebar and then then mention "Watch 2003 FIA World Rally, Only on Speed"
B.S.
| EricB | 02-08-2003 12:49 PM |
I think the coverage stunk. There was way too much talking, and not enough action. Reminds me of the way the Olympic coverage has become, all athlete "profiles", with less and less time spent on actual coverage of the sporting events.
Here's the specific complaints:
I understand the complaints about in car footage showed twice last year. But where was the in car footage this year? I'd rather see it twice than not at all.
Several times when drivers would get really out of shape, they'd switch feeds to the camera showing the driver yanking the wheel back and forth. How can I get a feeling for how amazing a save it might have been if all I can see if the driver and co-driver, and not what the car's doing? They did this several times.....
The coverage was 5 days too late. And the Swedish rally is being shown on Saturday, not Thursday, so that one will be 7 days too late.
I like the coverage after each day, and not all in one show. Putting 3 days into 1 show ruined the drama and build up to the next day. Of course, putting the coverage 5 days after the event sort of removes the drama also.
Except for the 1 or 2 technical pieces, I don't see anything better about it.
Eric
Here's the specific complaints:
I understand the complaints about in car footage showed twice last year. But where was the in car footage this year? I'd rather see it twice than not at all.
Several times when drivers would get really out of shape, they'd switch feeds to the camera showing the driver yanking the wheel back and forth. How can I get a feeling for how amazing a save it might have been if all I can see if the driver and co-driver, and not what the car's doing? They did this several times.....
The coverage was 5 days too late. And the Swedish rally is being shown on Saturday, not Thursday, so that one will be 7 days too late.
I like the coverage after each day, and not all in one show. Putting 3 days into 1 show ruined the drama and build up to the next day. Of course, putting the coverage 5 days after the event sort of removes the drama also.
Except for the 1 or 2 technical pieces, I don't see anything better about it.
Eric
| Jim2 | 02-08-2003 09:32 PM |
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bonzo [/i]
[B]If I'm not mistaken the in-car is fed via helicopter/satelites. The Monte seemed to have alot of tree overhang and rock wall obstructions. Maybe we saw less in-car cuz it just was not feasable. [/B][/QUOTE]
In-car, at least last year, was recorded to digital tape in the cars and then collected, so topography/obstructions don't enter into it.
Probably more expensive to gather up all those tapes and produce same-day coverage, but eurosport.com tells me that they are still getting same-day coverage over there using essentially the same ISC footage, so whey the *heck* doesn't Speed TV just use that as-is with a Speed TV logo slapped on??? And a decent announcer!
Why? maybe because they couldn't line up enough sponsors for 3 nights??? I don't know...
Give me same-day. Give me Eurosport. Give Ralphie back to NHRA.
[B]If I'm not mistaken the in-car is fed via helicopter/satelites. The Monte seemed to have alot of tree overhang and rock wall obstructions. Maybe we saw less in-car cuz it just was not feasable. [/B][/QUOTE]
In-car, at least last year, was recorded to digital tape in the cars and then collected, so topography/obstructions don't enter into it.
Probably more expensive to gather up all those tapes and produce same-day coverage, but eurosport.com tells me that they are still getting same-day coverage over there using essentially the same ISC footage, so whey the *heck* doesn't Speed TV just use that as-is with a Speed TV logo slapped on??? And a decent announcer!
Why? maybe because they couldn't line up enough sponsors for 3 nights??? I don't know...
Give me same-day. Give me Eurosport. Give Ralphie back to NHRA.
| Bonzo | 02-09-2003 12:52 AM |
Jim2, you may have hit the nail on the head about the "lack of sponsorship".
Speaking of sponsorship, I am curious how the pull-out of Winston in nascar will effect the motorsports world.
Speaking of sponsorship, I am curious how the pull-out of Winston in nascar will effect the motorsports world.
| WRXinWhite | 02-09-2003 05:23 PM |
I don't mind the NASCAR guys getting involved. A few of them where probably much closer to WRC (cars) then some of SCCA ProRally drivers. Think about Race of Champions.
If this is what will get us same day coverage. For now wrc.com rally radio keeps me informed with their live coverage and Nicky is on it too:lol:
If this is what will get us same day coverage. For now wrc.com rally radio keeps me informed with their live coverage and Nicky is on it too:lol:
| Rattler | 02-10-2003 12:21 PM |
I got my March issue of Car & Driver today and lo & behold there is an ad for WRC on the Speed Channel. Its in what appears to be a strip club and all the customers are watching WRC on the boob tube instead of the girls. The girls are glaring in disgust at the guys.:lol:
| driggity | 02-10-2003 05:06 PM |
Saw that ad too. Interestingly enough this month's Road and Track has the exact same add but for CART instead of WRC. I was somewhat confused by the fact that they had the dates of the races in the ad and not the dates of the coverage.
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