| banman | 10-12-2006 07:37 PM |
Who has a CG-Lock?
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I just bought one, and I've used it a few times, but I'm about to return it, because it seems that the clamp is just too small to fit on the buckle of the seatbelt. Basically, because the screws are so close to the edge of the clamp, I can only get about 1/8" of the clamp to actually "grab" onto the buckle. Even when I crank on the screws, the CG-Lock usually slides off within a few minutes. Very annoying.
Anyone found a way around this, or do I just have a weird/defective CG-Lock?
Ironically, the installation vid on their site uses an STi for the demo - and it looks like it fits just the same as mine does, which is to say, crappily.
fyi: [url]www.cg-lock.com[/url]
Anyone found a way around this, or do I just have a weird/defective CG-Lock?
Ironically, the installation vid on their site uses an STi for the demo - and it looks like it fits just the same as mine does, which is to say, crappily.
fyi: [url]www.cg-lock.com[/url]
| spazegun2213 | 10-12-2006 08:10 PM |
[QUOTE=banman;15591894]I just bought one, and I've used it a few times, but I'm about to return it, because it seems that the clamp is just too small to fit on the buckle of the seatbelt. Basically, because the screws are so close to the edge of the clamp, I can only get about 1/8" of the clamp to actually "grab" onto the buckle. Even when I crank on the screws, the CG-Lock usually slides off within a few minutes. Very annoying.
Anyone found a way around this, or do I just have a weird/defective CG-Lock?
Ironically, the installation vid on their site uses an STi for the demo - and it looks like it fits just the same as mine does, which is to say, crappily.
fyi: [url]www.cg-lock.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Keep cranking on those screws. The lock was one of the first "mods i did to my car, and I'll never take it off. I dont know about the 02 belts, but it fits just fine on the sti belt.
I remember that it came with 2 sets of screws, which ones do you have on it? and do you think the others might work better? Once i installed mine, it has not some off since.
Good luck with it, and if you were closer i should give you some help.
Anyone found a way around this, or do I just have a weird/defective CG-Lock?
Ironically, the installation vid on their site uses an STi for the demo - and it looks like it fits just the same as mine does, which is to say, crappily.
fyi: [url]www.cg-lock.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Keep cranking on those screws. The lock was one of the first "mods i did to my car, and I'll never take it off. I dont know about the 02 belts, but it fits just fine on the sti belt.
I remember that it came with 2 sets of screws, which ones do you have on it? and do you think the others might work better? Once i installed mine, it has not some off since.
Good luck with it, and if you were closer i should give you some help.
| banman | 10-12-2006 08:14 PM |
[QUOTE=spazegun2213;15592246]Keep cranking on those screws. The lock was one of the first "mods i did to my car, and I'll never take it off. I dont know about the 02 belts, but it fits just fine on the sti belt.
I remember that it came with 2 sets of screws, which ones do you have on it? and do you think the others might work better? Once i installed mine, it has not some off since.
Good luck with it, and if you were closer i should give you some help.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I assume the '02 belts are the same as the '04 (and the WRX the same as the STi). I used the longer screws - IIRC, the shorter ones don't fit.
Oh, and any idea what the screw pitch/diameter is? I think I might have stripped the heads on one of them :(
I remember that it came with 2 sets of screws, which ones do you have on it? and do you think the others might work better? Once i installed mine, it has not some off since.
Good luck with it, and if you were closer i should give you some help.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I assume the '02 belts are the same as the '04 (and the WRX the same as the STi). I used the longer screws - IIRC, the shorter ones don't fit.
Oh, and any idea what the screw pitch/diameter is? I think I might have stripped the heads on one of them :(
| boost junkie | 10-12-2006 10:01 PM |
Mine works great and I haven't had any problems with it sliding off. I just use the long screws and make sure to tighten it down really well.
| fuzzymemory | 10-12-2006 10:05 PM |
I have a 04 WRX with a CG lock. Mine fits well with the long screws - when I tried to use the short screws, it didn't work. I'm very happy with it, and it hasn't moved at all in the few months that I've had it on my car. Since I have an 04, I can't comment on the exact fit for an 02, but I've spent plenty of time in 02 WRXs and the belts seem to be the same. Did you try contacting the company?
| rt4me | 10-12-2006 10:07 PM |
I've got one and had the same problem. I use the longer screws and I ended up making some spacers out of aluminum and placing them in the area where the screw holes are. It helped the clamp portion of the CG-Lock say more up and down in relation to the belt...if that makes any sense.
| banman | 10-12-2006 10:49 PM |
[QUOTE=rt4me;15593528]I've got one and had the same problem. I use the longer screws and I ended up making some spacers out of aluminum and placing them in the area where the screw holes are. It helped the clamp portion of the CG-Lock say more up and down in relation to the belt...if that makes any sense.[/QUOTE]
This is what I was thinking of doing - it's really kind of a silly design, because the screws themselves keep you from pushing the clamp on any further than about 1/4" maximum.
Anyway, maybe I'll try again with a bit more patience and a lot more torque! Seriously, though, I swear I reefed on those little screws as hard as I could with the provided Allen key, and it still eventually works its way off. There's so little surface area contacting the buckle that I can usually pivot the CG-lock around even with the screws tightened :huh:
This is what I was thinking of doing - it's really kind of a silly design, because the screws themselves keep you from pushing the clamp on any further than about 1/4" maximum.
Anyway, maybe I'll try again with a bit more patience and a lot more torque! Seriously, though, I swear I reefed on those little screws as hard as I could with the provided Allen key, and it still eventually works its way off. There's so little surface area contacting the buckle that I can usually pivot the CG-lock around even with the screws tightened :huh:
| flyboymike | 10-12-2006 11:49 PM |
I actually sent my first one back because it just wouldn't stay on. They sent me another one with some kind of a grippier mouth. I think instead of being smooth, the jaws that actually clamp around the seatbelt tongue were more serrated. That one gripped fine, and it's been on the car for almost a year and a half without slipping. It's very effective for the street, but it wasn't quite enough for me on the autocross course.
| Mykl | 10-12-2006 11:52 PM |
Geez, for that much money I'll just continue manipulating the seat belt's lock mechanism.
| skuttledude | 10-13-2006 09:53 AM |
Great product.
You need to really set those screws in their place.
I've had a CG for 2-3 yrs. Love it. Daily driver and HPDE stuff. (while harnesses are better in all accounts, this is a simple device that does a better job than standrd belts. )
You need to really set those screws in their place.
I've had a CG for 2-3 yrs. Love it. Daily driver and HPDE stuff. (while harnesses are better in all accounts, this is a simple device that does a better job than standrd belts. )
| jamesohoh7 | 10-13-2006 10:43 AM |
[QUOTE=Mykl;15594757]Geez, for that much money I'll just continue manipulating the seat belt's lock mechanism.[/QUOTE]
I just twist up the tongue/belt a few times before plugging it into the latch...keeps it from slipping. The full routine is: straighten the seat-back, back the seat all the way up, do the belt-twist, plug it in, pull sharply on the shoulder belt until you get it to 'grab' with as little slack as possible... lean forward into the now taught belt and slide the seat as far forward as I can while maintaining that tension. Works like a champ, cost == 0.
I just twist up the tongue/belt a few times before plugging it into the latch...keeps it from slipping. The full routine is: straighten the seat-back, back the seat all the way up, do the belt-twist, plug it in, pull sharply on the shoulder belt until you get it to 'grab' with as little slack as possible... lean forward into the now taught belt and slide the seat as far forward as I can while maintaining that tension. Works like a champ, cost == 0.
| elgorey | 10-13-2006 12:19 PM |
Ive sat in a couple students cars with them. They help immensely with the crappy STi seats on track.
| banman | 10-13-2006 01:49 PM |
[QUOTE=flyboymike;15594720]I actually sent my first one back because it just wouldn't stay on. They sent me another one with some kind of a grippier mouth. I think instead of being smooth, the jaws that actually clamp around the seatbelt tongue were more serrated. That one gripped fine, and it's been on the car for almost a year and a half without slipping. It's very effective for the street, but it wasn't quite enough for me on the autocross course.[/QUOTE]
Hmm - maybe I'll send mine back anyway. There are serrations/grooves in the mouth of the clamp, but maybe I there are slightly different manufacturing tolerances or different batches. I'll give it a shot . . .
Hmm - maybe I'll send mine back anyway. There are serrations/grooves in the mouth of the clamp, but maybe I there are slightly different manufacturing tolerances or different batches. I'll give it a shot . . .
| freshspecbluegt | 10-13-2006 06:56 PM |
Two designs for CG-Lock
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I had a similar problem with my CG lock in my Celica. I had bought it through Randy at Chase cam, he informed me that there were actually two designs, one where the clamp is straight and a second where the clamp is curved. I contacted CG lock and they were great about shipping me one with the curved clamp very quickly.
Ross
Ross
| banman | 10-13-2006 07:02 PM |
[QUOTE=freshspecbluegt;15605721]I had a similar problem with my CG lock in my Celica. I had bought it through Randy at Chase cam, he informed me that there were actually two designs, one where the clamp is straight and a second where the clamp is curved. I contacted CG lock and they were great about shipping me one with the curved clamp very quickly.
Ross[/QUOTE]
Mine is the curved one - at least I think it is. I'll grab a pic of it this weekend. I think that's actually part of the problem, because the only area where the clamp is actually contacting the buckle is the lip of the curved portion of the clamp. A straight clamp would probably give me more surface area.
Those of you who have one and said it fits great on the WRX/STi - is yours curved or straight clamp?
Ross[/QUOTE]
Mine is the curved one - at least I think it is. I'll grab a pic of it this weekend. I think that's actually part of the problem, because the only area where the clamp is actually contacting the buckle is the lip of the curved portion of the clamp. A straight clamp would probably give me more surface area.
Those of you who have one and said it fits great on the WRX/STi - is yours curved or straight clamp?
| Daishi00 | 10-13-2006 07:37 PM |
the guy who makes them lives litterally 10 minutes from my house. Great guy, and a great product. I have three of them myself and I will never go without one again. Use the longer screws and tighten them down and it'll be fine. I've had mine on the WRX on for over a year with no problems of it popping off.
Curved for all of mine.
Curved for all of mine.
| boostpower | 10-13-2006 07:39 PM |
Interesting product, seems a little spendy for as basic as it is.
| banman | 10-24-2006 01:48 AM |
Sorry, took me awhile to get pics:
[IMG]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/sbanman/IMG_1218Medium.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/sbanman/IMG_1219Medium.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/sbanman/IMG_1218Medium.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/sbanman/IMG_1219Medium.jpg[/IMG]
| JamesWilson | 10-24-2006 01:59 AM |
[quote=boostpower;15606131]Interesting product, seems a little spendy for as basic as it is.[/quote]
Tooling and manufacturing is expensive....build 10K of them and then they'll be cheaper....build a few hundred or even a thousand, and they HAVE to cost $40 as a break-even.
Ah, I love manufacturing.....
-JW
ChaseCam.com
Tooling and manufacturing is expensive....build 10K of them and then they'll be cheaper....build a few hundred or even a thousand, and they HAVE to cost $40 as a break-even.
Ah, I love manufacturing.....
-JW
ChaseCam.com
| hybrid gti 2 | 10-24-2006 02:18 AM |
might work better with better seat I think
| wil69 | 10-24-2006 02:19 AM |
I have a CG lock and it fits fine w/ the longer included screws. Its held me in so tight that i had bruises on my hips after an autox. I think you may have a defective product, if its sliding off the seatbelt since i dont think the STi seatbelt is different than the WRX.
| banman | 10-30-2006 12:54 AM |
Anyway, dropped by Home Depot today to get a replacement screw for the one I stripped. If anyone is curious, the screws are 6-32, somewhere between 1/2" and 3/4" long (doesn't really matter if they're longer than supplied).
I'm going to try cranking these screws down and see if I have any better luck . . . otherwise, I'll chalk it up to a defective unit and send it back.
I'm going to try cranking these screws down and see if I have any better luck . . . otherwise, I'll chalk it up to a defective unit and send it back.
| chimchimm5 | 10-30-2006 02:45 AM |
Cheap alternative to the CG lock: baby seat locking clips, usually like $2 at any baby store.
[IMG]http://www.babycatalog.com/carseats03new/902155.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.babycatalog.com/carseats03new/902155.jpg[/IMG]
| semaj | 10-30-2006 02:49 AM |
[QUOTE=chimchimm5;15797419]Cheap alternative to the CG lock: baby seat locking clips, usually like $2 at any baby store.[/QUOTE]
Interesting...work well? Just need one?
Interesting...work well? Just need one?
| chimchimm5 | 10-30-2006 03:00 AM |
[QUOTE=semaj;15797442]Interesting...work well? Just need one?[/QUOTE]
I'm a noob, so even though I used it once, it's hard to for me to say. But say what other people said:
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1053972[/url]
I'm a noob, so even though I used it once, it's hard to for me to say. But say what other people said:
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1053972[/url]
| semaj | 10-30-2006 03:03 AM |
[QUOTE=chimchimm5;15797466]I'm a noob, so even though I used it once, it's hard to for me to say. But say what other people said:
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1053972[/url][/QUOTE]
Cool...I will give it a shot.
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1053972[/url][/QUOTE]
Cool...I will give it a shot.
| Mirage | 10-30-2006 03:06 AM |
I have one.. I installed it that one time and haven't had to make any adjustment since. I think it is very useful for AutoX, which was my primary reason for installing it, and the fact that I got it for free from a friend who wrote up a review for them. :D
| Brian-ATL | 10-30-2006 10:36 AM |
FYI, I've been using my cg's for quite awhile and originally had the same problem. The solution was to put a thin cut along the plastic with a dremel tool for the clamp to bite onto. *NO* problems with it slipping even a little bit since that mod on either driver or pass sides.
| JnJassociates | 10-30-2006 03:19 PM |
As a vendor who has carried the CG Lock and is a avid user (been installed in my 04 wagon since I took delivery in June 03) for a few years now, it works very well...
It is a less expensive alternative to a racing harness (a racing harness in a DD is a PITA, no I am not saying it is equivalent, I'm saying for a once in awhile track/autocross event, the CG Lock is more cost effective), easier to install and can be moved from one vehicle to another in just a few minutes...
Bryan
It is a less expensive alternative to a racing harness (a racing harness in a DD is a PITA, no I am not saying it is equivalent, I'm saying for a once in awhile track/autocross event, the CG Lock is more cost effective), easier to install and can be moved from one vehicle to another in just a few minutes...
Bryan
| Chiketkd | 10-30-2006 03:55 PM |
I've had one on my D-Stock WRX for over 6 months and couldn' be happier. Great product and install took just a few minutes.
| Fogrider | 10-30-2006 09:22 PM |
Love mine in my STU class STi. Two years, zero problems. Proved very useful for the North Country Rumble, a 4-person team in same car autox competition, where my team had a weight range of over 80 pounds. Everybody fit.
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