| takumi | 02-03-2004 12:22 AM |
yellow fog lights covers
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i am looking for yellow fog light covers, the lens that go over or replaces the stock lens, does anyone know where i can purchase a pair thanks
| satrya | 02-03-2004 12:32 AM |
There's a generic adhesive backed yellow lens cover by the brand Lamin-X, iirc, Rockblocker (a vendor here) sells them.
| migs76 | 02-03-2004 12:57 AM |
be forewarned. although they (lamin-x/rockblocker etc) may look good. they will not protect your fogs as well as mesh covers or those lexan ones.
| satrya | 02-03-2004 11:32 AM |
[QUOTE][B]be forewarned. although they (lamin-x/rockblocker etc) may look good. they will not protect your fogs as well as mesh covers or those lexan ones. [/B][/QUOTE]
I'd like to know the reasoning behind this argument.
A thick metal mesh will provide better debris impact protection at the expense of a reduced light transmission. But I'm not sure if the combination of the thickness and material properties of the lexan vs whatever lamin-x is made of conclusively favors one over the other. I know I'm comfortable with the clear adhesive-backed 3M Scotchcal lens protection sheet and would definitely favor it over the lexan snap-on covers, in large part because I've seen 3M's test results (posted in their corporate website).
One thing about the lexan covers is that they allow dirt to accumulate between the cover and the lens.
I'm not defending any choice in any way of course.
I'd like to know the reasoning behind this argument.
A thick metal mesh will provide better debris impact protection at the expense of a reduced light transmission. But I'm not sure if the combination of the thickness and material properties of the lexan vs whatever lamin-x is made of conclusively favors one over the other. I know I'm comfortable with the clear adhesive-backed 3M Scotchcal lens protection sheet and would definitely favor it over the lexan snap-on covers, in large part because I've seen 3M's test results (posted in their corporate website).
One thing about the lexan covers is that they allow dirt to accumulate between the cover and the lens.
I'm not defending any choice in any way of course.
| ommmjido | 02-03-2004 01:38 PM |
got them from lamin-X, go do a search under vendor classified on i-club and u'll find it.
[IMG]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid79/p53af246834c82575cb4dbfd64e160cc9/fb1f3a3d.jpg[/IMG]
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| grndc2gsr | 02-03-2004 07:14 PM |
i have the lamix they look good and were only like 22 the number is (407)539-0077
| Subie2.5RS2003 | 02-03-2004 07:21 PM |
lamin-x.com
easy install and everything
easy install and everything
| takumi | 02-03-2004 11:08 PM |
cool thanks guys
| Stevins | 02-04-2004 11:36 AM |
Do the lamin-x covers fit the fog lights tightly? Do the fogs look more like the IS300 fogs when they are turned on?
| Depeche | 02-04-2004 12:11 PM |
what about those actual subaru plastic covers that look like they *snap* on around the fogs?
I saw a rex with them and haven't been able to find them. I think they are EDM
I saw a rex with them and haven't been able to find them. I think they are EDM
| satrya | 02-04-2004 12:18 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Stevins [/i]
[B]Do the lamin-x covers fit the fog lights tightly?[/B][/QUOTE]
That depends on how close you cut it to fit. Afaik, there are pre-cut ones that should be quite close. Since they are applied almost like applying window tint, you can't expect them to wrap to the sides as well. To do that, you'd have to warm the sheet and need window tint skills beyond that of a novice, imho.
[QUOTE][B]Do the fogs look more like the IS300 fogs when they are turned on? [/B][/QUOTE]
I haven't done a side-by-side comparison, but afaik, the result is not as yellow as the IS300 fogs or some of the projector fogs (like the Hella Optiluxes) that use regular bulbs but produce a deep yellow tint due to the optics.
Fwiw, here's a picture of the lamin-x on the fogs of my SG. These came off the raw sheet (not the pre-cut).
[IMG]http://mechatro2.me.berkeley.edu/~satrya/pics/photos/200402reriegrille2/grille204.jpg[/IMG]
[B]Do the lamin-x covers fit the fog lights tightly?[/B][/QUOTE]
That depends on how close you cut it to fit. Afaik, there are pre-cut ones that should be quite close. Since they are applied almost like applying window tint, you can't expect them to wrap to the sides as well. To do that, you'd have to warm the sheet and need window tint skills beyond that of a novice, imho.
[QUOTE][B]Do the fogs look more like the IS300 fogs when they are turned on? [/B][/QUOTE]
I haven't done a side-by-side comparison, but afaik, the result is not as yellow as the IS300 fogs or some of the projector fogs (like the Hella Optiluxes) that use regular bulbs but produce a deep yellow tint due to the optics.
Fwiw, here's a picture of the lamin-x on the fogs of my SG. These came off the raw sheet (not the pre-cut).
[IMG]http://mechatro2.me.berkeley.edu/~satrya/pics/photos/200402reriegrille2/grille204.jpg[/IMG]
| satrya | 02-04-2004 12:25 PM |
[QUOTE][B]what about those actual subaru plastic covers that look like they *snap* on around the fogs?[/B][/QUOTE]
The good thing about those is that you can take them off and re-mount them as many times as you want. (which is absolutely necessary because the inner side of the cover and the outer side of the fog lens need to be periodically cleaned)
The adhesive-backed covers like the one Lamin-X has or the clear 3M variety do not need to be taken off for periodic cleaning (because with proper installation, dirt will not enter between the cover and fog lens). However, should you decide to take them off, you can't re-use them anymore.
Iirc, the snap-on Subaru covers are more expensive, perhaps because they have to be imported (unless you're in Europe or Australia).
The good thing about those is that you can take them off and re-mount them as many times as you want. (which is absolutely necessary because the inner side of the cover and the outer side of the fog lens need to be periodically cleaned)
The adhesive-backed covers like the one Lamin-X has or the clear 3M variety do not need to be taken off for periodic cleaning (because with proper installation, dirt will not enter between the cover and fog lens). However, should you decide to take them off, you can't re-use them anymore.
Iirc, the snap-on Subaru covers are more expensive, perhaps because they have to be imported (unless you're in Europe or Australia).
| Stevins | 02-04-2004 12:32 PM |
So let me get this straight, the lamin-x covers are like a thick window tint??
| migs76 | 02-04-2004 03:48 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by satrya[/i]
[B] I'd like to know the reasoning behind this argument.
A thick metal mesh will provide better debris impact protection at the expense of a reduced light transmission. But I'm not sure if the combination of the thickness and material properties of the lexan vs whatever lamin-x is made of conclusively favors one over the other. I know I'm comfortable with the clear adhesive-backed 3M Scotchcal lens protection sheet and would definitely favor it over the lexan snap-on covers, in large part because I've seen 3M's test results (posted in their corporate website).
One thing about the lexan covers is that they allow dirt to accumulate between the cover and the lens.
I'm not defending any choice in any way of course. [/B][/QUOTE]
my logic is this. big rock will hit the lexan and not fog...big rock hits fog with scotchcal/rockblocker/lamin-x, fog still takes brunt of impact. just my .02 do i have hard evidence? no. i guess i'm just bitter than my fog cracked 2 weeks after i had applied lamin-x. i do know that scotchcal, rockblocker and lamin-x do come in different thicknesses, so that's where the difference in protection may lie.
[B] I'd like to know the reasoning behind this argument.
A thick metal mesh will provide better debris impact protection at the expense of a reduced light transmission. But I'm not sure if the combination of the thickness and material properties of the lexan vs whatever lamin-x is made of conclusively favors one over the other. I know I'm comfortable with the clear adhesive-backed 3M Scotchcal lens protection sheet and would definitely favor it over the lexan snap-on covers, in large part because I've seen 3M's test results (posted in their corporate website).
One thing about the lexan covers is that they allow dirt to accumulate between the cover and the lens.
I'm not defending any choice in any way of course. [/B][/QUOTE]
my logic is this. big rock will hit the lexan and not fog...big rock hits fog with scotchcal/rockblocker/lamin-x, fog still takes brunt of impact. just my .02 do i have hard evidence? no. i guess i'm just bitter than my fog cracked 2 weeks after i had applied lamin-x. i do know that scotchcal, rockblocker and lamin-x do come in different thicknesses, so that's where the difference in protection may lie.
| sevendhappy | 02-04-2004 04:13 PM |
[url=http://www.rockblocker.com][u]Rockblocker[/u][/url] (Chad) is the man. Check out his site, he should have the goods you're looking for. :)
| ommmjido | 02-04-2004 04:16 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Stevins [/i]
[B]So let me get this straight, the lamin-x covers are like a thick window tint?? [/B][/QUOTE]
ding ding ding! here's the winner for the day!! :banana:
[B]So let me get this straight, the lamin-x covers are like a thick window tint?? [/B][/QUOTE]
ding ding ding! here's the winner for the day!! :banana:
| Stevins | 02-04-2004 06:20 PM |
I just ordered them for my RS, so Ill take pics when they are on.
| satrya | 02-04-2004 11:23 PM |
[QUOTE][B]my logic is this. big rock will hit the lexan and not fog...big rock hits fog with scotchcal/rockblocker/lamin-x, fog still takes brunt of impact. just my .02 do i have hard evidence? no. i guess i'm just bitter than my fog cracked 2 weeks after i had applied lamin-x.[/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry to hear that. Did it crack because of some debris impact or other reason if I may ask?
In any case, suppose the snap on, lamin-x, and 3M scotchcal had been made of the same material (which they are not obviously), and suppose they are all of the same thickness, the fact that one snaps on and the others adhere on the lens surface would not make much of a difference, unless the snap on type have a rigid support that "elevates" it from the lens surface, and assuming the cover is tough and rigid enough to absorb the impact and not let any significant amount of energy to be transmitted to the lens surface.
Sorry to hear that. Did it crack because of some debris impact or other reason if I may ask?
In any case, suppose the snap on, lamin-x, and 3M scotchcal had been made of the same material (which they are not obviously), and suppose they are all of the same thickness, the fact that one snaps on and the others adhere on the lens surface would not make much of a difference, unless the snap on type have a rigid support that "elevates" it from the lens surface, and assuming the cover is tough and rigid enough to absorb the impact and not let any significant amount of energy to be transmitted to the lens surface.
| RockBlocker | 02-05-2004 12:31 AM |
Anyone looking for colored headlight or fog light kits should really check us out.
Lexan will not protect as well as a flexible vinyl that is impact resistant like our films. The mesh covers will protect pretty well but reduce the light that comes from the fog light so that is kind of a drawback.
Best solution is colored or clear light protection that you can install in ten minutes and not have any drawbacks.
We are running a sale in the Vendor section this month.
Here is the sale page
[URL=http://www.rockblocker.com/subaruspecial2.htm]Subaru Colored Film[/URL]
[IMG]http://www.rockblocker.com/images/laminx/59.jpg[/IMG]
Lexan will not protect as well as a flexible vinyl that is impact resistant like our films. The mesh covers will protect pretty well but reduce the light that comes from the fog light so that is kind of a drawback.
Best solution is colored or clear light protection that you can install in ten minutes and not have any drawbacks.
We are running a sale in the Vendor section this month.
Here is the sale page
[URL=http://www.rockblocker.com/subaruspecial2.htm]Subaru Colored Film[/URL]
[IMG]http://www.rockblocker.com/images/laminx/59.jpg[/IMG]
| InfamousDX | 02-05-2004 01:57 AM |
Another vote for Lamin-X Protective Films.
[IMG]http://web.njit.edu/~mcl3/wrx/laminx1.jpg[/IMG]
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[IMG]http://web.njit.edu/~mcl3/wrx/laminx1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://web.njit.edu/~mcl3/wrx/laminx2.jpg[/IMG]
| migs76 | 02-05-2004 02:00 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by satrya[/i]
[B] Sorry to hear that. Did it crack because of some debris impact or other reason if I may ask?
In any case, suppose the snap on, lamin-x, and 3M scotchcal had been made of the same material (which they are not obviously), and suppose they are all of the same thickness, the fact that one snaps on and the others adhere on the lens surface would not make much of a difference, unless the snap on type have a rigid support that "elevates" it from the lens surface, and assuming the cover is tough and rigid enough to absorb the impact and not let any significant amount of energy to be transmitted to the lens surface. [/B][/QUOTE]
it was from debris impact. said rock flew right into foglight approx. 2 weeks after i had applied the lamin-x. i was very happy with it up until that point. i have seen the lexan covers somewhere and from what i remember they were not directly on the light. how sturdy the supports are, i'll never know.
[B] Sorry to hear that. Did it crack because of some debris impact or other reason if I may ask?
In any case, suppose the snap on, lamin-x, and 3M scotchcal had been made of the same material (which they are not obviously), and suppose they are all of the same thickness, the fact that one snaps on and the others adhere on the lens surface would not make much of a difference, unless the snap on type have a rigid support that "elevates" it from the lens surface, and assuming the cover is tough and rigid enough to absorb the impact and not let any significant amount of energy to be transmitted to the lens surface. [/B][/QUOTE]
it was from debris impact. said rock flew right into foglight approx. 2 weeks after i had applied the lamin-x. i was very happy with it up until that point. i have seen the lexan covers somewhere and from what i remember they were not directly on the light. how sturdy the supports are, i'll never know.
| satrya | 02-05-2004 11:42 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by migs76 [/i]
[B]it was from debris impact. said rock flew right into foglight approx. 2 weeks after i had applied the lamin-x. i was very happy with it up until that point. i have seen the lexan covers somewhere and from what i remember they were not directly on the light. how sturdy the supports are, i'll never know. [/B][/QUOTE]
I see. My guess is that even if you have 2 layers of the 3M Scotchcal (which have done a very good job for both my subarus for 2+ & 1+ years so far), whatever hit your fogs under that condition would probably still impart some damage to the lens anyway.
The lexan cover for the GD/GG impreza I've seen have small bumps on the inner surface to keep it a little "elevated" from the lens surface, but I doubt the combination of the height of the bump and the thickness,stiffness, &toughness of the lexan material will help in your case, had you used the lexan snap-ons.
None of the covers (even the mesh) can guarantee 100% protection agains all kinds of debris impact of course.
Back to the topic of foglight covers, imho it would be nice if manufacturers provide some form of objective durability test, the way 3M does with their Scotchcal.
[B]it was from debris impact. said rock flew right into foglight approx. 2 weeks after i had applied the lamin-x. i was very happy with it up until that point. i have seen the lexan covers somewhere and from what i remember they were not directly on the light. how sturdy the supports are, i'll never know. [/B][/QUOTE]
I see. My guess is that even if you have 2 layers of the 3M Scotchcal (which have done a very good job for both my subarus for 2+ & 1+ years so far), whatever hit your fogs under that condition would probably still impart some damage to the lens anyway.
The lexan cover for the GD/GG impreza I've seen have small bumps on the inner surface to keep it a little "elevated" from the lens surface, but I doubt the combination of the height of the bump and the thickness,stiffness, &toughness of the lexan material will help in your case, had you used the lexan snap-ons.
None of the covers (even the mesh) can guarantee 100% protection agains all kinds of debris impact of course.
Back to the topic of foglight covers, imho it would be nice if manufacturers provide some form of objective durability test, the way 3M does with their Scotchcal.
| DrBoy01 | 03-25-2004 06:35 PM |
I recently purchased a set of the yellow Lamin-x film cut-outs for my 02 2.5 RS from Rockblocker. Although my first package managed to get lost during shipping by UPS, Rockblocker was very quick in sending me a new one. Great customer service!
After cleaning the stock foglights with some Stoner's Glass Cleaner and tearing off the adhesive coating, I put the film on very carefully. Unfortunately, I had to fiddle with it a bit before it was perfectly centered on the fog-light, and as a result I got some finger-prints on the adhesive side of the tint for one of the fog-lights. It looks pretty bad on one side. Any chance that these fingerprints will disappear as the film cures/sets over the next few days, or did I just blow $10 by messing up the install? :D
Looks pretty decent though. I have a feeling that this will provide some sturdy protection for my fog-lights because the film is very thick! If it's anything like window-tinting film, it will protect against cracking and shattering.
After cleaning the stock foglights with some Stoner's Glass Cleaner and tearing off the adhesive coating, I put the film on very carefully. Unfortunately, I had to fiddle with it a bit before it was perfectly centered on the fog-light, and as a result I got some finger-prints on the adhesive side of the tint for one of the fog-lights. It looks pretty bad on one side. Any chance that these fingerprints will disappear as the film cures/sets over the next few days, or did I just blow $10 by messing up the install? :D
Looks pretty decent though. I have a feeling that this will provide some sturdy protection for my fog-lights because the film is very thick! If it's anything like window-tinting film, it will protect against cracking and shattering.
| cabin | 03-25-2004 06:40 PM |
I just painted my fogs with yellow stained glass paint from the local hobby shop.
I didn't need the rockblocker because I have the mesh covers. It looks great and only costed me $6.00.
I didn't need the rockblocker because I have the mesh covers. It looks great and only costed me $6.00.
| Samirr76 | 03-25-2004 06:52 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cabin [/i]
[B]I just painted my fogs with yellow stained glass paint from the local hobby shop.
I didn't need the rockblocker because I have the mesh covers. It looks great and only costed me $6.00. [/B][/QUOTE]
This is what I plan on doing. I have Austrailian Subaru lexan snap-on fog light covers and I plan on tinting them yellow using this same method. This way I can control how yellow (or not yellow) I want them.
And i can remove them if I dont feel like having yellow light.
[B]I just painted my fogs with yellow stained glass paint from the local hobby shop.
I didn't need the rockblocker because I have the mesh covers. It looks great and only costed me $6.00. [/B][/QUOTE]
This is what I plan on doing. I have Austrailian Subaru lexan snap-on fog light covers and I plan on tinting them yellow using this same method. This way I can control how yellow (or not yellow) I want them.
And i can remove them if I dont feel like having yellow light.
| Stevins | 03-25-2004 07:09 PM |
Hey!!! I live near exit 3!!!!
| N'CTRL | 03-25-2004 08:30 PM |
Another vote for Lamin-X!!
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| DrBoy01 | 03-25-2004 08:36 PM |
Does anyone have an answer to my question?
To those who have installed their Lamin-x foglight flims, do any fingerprints on the adhesive material (on the "underside" of the film, when looking at the foglights) disappear after a few days as the film cures? Or do I have to buy another set?
To those who have installed their Lamin-x foglight flims, do any fingerprints on the adhesive material (on the "underside" of the film, when looking at the foglights) disappear after a few days as the film cures? Or do I have to buy another set?
| RockBlocker | 03-25-2004 10:31 PM |
[QUOTE]To those who have installed their Lamin-x foglight flims, do any fingerprints on the adhesive material (on the "underside" of the film, when looking at the foglights) disappear after a few days as the film cures? Or do I have to buy another set?[/QUOTE]
Your fingerprints will probably never go away if you got them stuck in the adhsive backing. Is it really that noticeable from a couple of feet away.? Most glues like this take three weeks to cure in the winter time conditions. Keep an eye on it and if it really bothers you then sent me an emial and I will work something out with you to help out.
Thanks
Chad
[email][email�protected][/email]
Your fingerprints will probably never go away if you got them stuck in the adhsive backing. Is it really that noticeable from a couple of feet away.? Most glues like this take three weeks to cure in the winter time conditions. Keep an eye on it and if it really bothers you then sent me an emial and I will work something out with you to help out.
Thanks
Chad
[email][email�protected][/email]
| DrBoy01 | 03-25-2004 10:54 PM |
Ahh, nuts. Wish they had said that on the instructions, lol. I can always buy another set. Lemme see how they look in a few days and I'll get back to you.
| Samirr76 | 03-26-2004 07:07 AM |
hijack!
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Stevins [/i]
[B]Hey!!! I live near exit 3!!!! [/B][/QUOTE]
Cool where exactly are you? I'm in Blackwood! :cool:
[B]Hey!!! I live near exit 3!!!! [/B][/QUOTE]
Cool where exactly are you? I'm in Blackwood! :cool:
| wrx112 | 03-26-2004 11:55 AM |
another one
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| Stevins | 03-26-2004 07:33 PM |
I live in Sicklerville!! By the way I already bought the lamin-x in yellow. Im just waiting for the weather to break to put them on!!
| RockBlocker | 03-26-2004 09:12 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Stevins [/i]
[B]I live in Sicklerville!! By the way I already bought the lamin-x in yellow. Im just waiting for the weather to break to put them on!! [/B][/QUOTE]
Great to hear. Hopefully you took advantage of our great prices [URL=http://www.rockblocker.com/subaruspecial2.htm]Here[/URL]
[B]I live in Sicklerville!! By the way I already bought the lamin-x in yellow. Im just waiting for the weather to break to put them on!! [/B][/QUOTE]
Great to hear. Hopefully you took advantage of our great prices [URL=http://www.rockblocker.com/subaruspecial2.htm]Here[/URL]
| The_Triton | 03-26-2004 11:12 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RockBlocker[/i]
[B] Great to hear. Hopefully you took advantage of our great prices [URL=http://www.rockblocker.com/subaruspecial2.htm]Here[/URL] [/B][/QUOTE]
2002-2003 Subaru WRX HL/FL Color
$45.95
(for those who don't click links)
[B] Great to hear. Hopefully you took advantage of our great prices [URL=http://www.rockblocker.com/subaruspecial2.htm]Here[/URL] [/B][/QUOTE]
2002-2003 Subaru WRX HL/FL Color
$45.95
(for those who don't click links)
| Samirr76 | 03-27-2004 11:15 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Stevins [/i]
[B]I live in Sicklerville!! By the way I already bought the lamin-x in yellow. Im just waiting for the weather to break to put them on!! [/B][/QUOTE]
do you have sti/22b style wing on your car? Also is it a black 2-door coupe. If it is I think I saw you one day on BHP.
[B]I live in Sicklerville!! By the way I already bought the lamin-x in yellow. Im just waiting for the weather to break to put them on!! [/B][/QUOTE]
do you have sti/22b style wing on your car? Also is it a black 2-door coupe. If it is I think I saw you one day on BHP.
| Stevins | 03-27-2004 08:12 PM |
Na, I have a sedan. Stock wing :(
| Samirr76 | 03-27-2004 10:55 PM |
OK then it wasnt you I saw....
You should check your PMs :p
You should check your PMs :p
| piker28 | 03-27-2004 11:28 PM |
anymore pics of them on black cars?
| RockBlocker | 03-28-2004 02:00 AM |
Here you go
[IMG]http://www.rockblocker.com/images/laminx/58.JPG[/IMG]
Let me know if you need anything
[IMG]http://www.rockblocker.com/images/laminx/58.JPG[/IMG]
Let me know if you need anything
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